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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:21 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:18:53 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
How bout that speech by Constantine last night? When he said that
the success this season, this valiant drive to the playoffs, was for
those of us who have been there from the start, suffering through
"being maybe the worst team in the league" last year (with "maybe"
thrown in for the benfit of George Kingston), I felt a bit of a lump
in my throat. Especially since I kept being reminded of our hideous
18-or-so game losing streak last night because of Winnipeg's.
I'm all warmed up to chant "Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!". Too
bad I won't be there.
The only downside of the speech was that he seemed a little
nervous about making it into the playoffs. Confidence was definitely
not being exuded. It would be pretty hard for everyone involved
if the playoffs slip away. But we must not think about such things.
(at least not in public.)
On a completely diferent note, did anyone order the Roger Nielson
hockey instructional video last season? My friend sent for it and it
never arrived. I was just wondering if anyone else had the same problem.
(Or, if anyone got it, if it was worth getting.)
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:36 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 12:34:11 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
> The only downside of the speech was that he seemed a little
>nervous about making it into the playoffs. Confidence was definitely
>not being exuded. It would be pretty hard for everyone involved
>if the playoffs slip away.
Given our play recently, would you be confident? With the Kings behind us?
and if the Ducks do land Kariya, they could be a better team.
There are good reasons to worry. There are good reasons to believe we're
pulling out of the latest slump, adn fortunately, the team I'm worried about
(the Kings) is slumping worse. If we can stay ahead of them, I think we can
do it.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:41 PST 1994
Date: 1 Mar 1994 12:37:14 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comme
Reply to: RE>Last Night's Game--Comments
Jon Cohen sez:
>Hope [Larionov's] "flu," is not a euphemism for vodka, as it sometimes is
>in sports circle.
I don't think so, but in the Coach's Chalkboard pregame radio show, Dan
Rusanowsky asked Constantine about Larionov. In what may have been a Freudian
slip, Constantine said something to the effect that the team needs for Larionov
"to recover from his injury -- err, flu -- quickly". So, perhaps Larionov is
actually suffering from an injury and the team is calling it the flu to prevent
other teams from intentionally aggravating his injury when he returns
(particularly given the upcoming Ducks game and the home-and-home series
against the Kings later this month...).
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 13:27 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Keith Wandry)
Subject: Thursday Night
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:26:09 -13165615 (PST)
Is everybody going to do the `playoff' chant that Constantine
said would help motivate his team on Thursday night before the
puck is dropped?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 13:52 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:49:16 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>From: Jon Cohen
>
>Last night's game vs Winnipeg was both frustrating and
>encouraging.
That's great, but...WHAT WAS THE SCORE?!? I caught the end of the
first and most of the second periods, but that's it.
have fun
gak (nelson lu, where are you?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:03 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 16:59:13 EST
Subject: tix avail 3/3
2 tickets available, Thursday the 3rd against Edmonton.
Section 209, $14 each.
Call at 408-258-8232, or e-mail email@hidden.
Thanks,
Darren
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:22 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:19:52 +0800
From: email@hidden (John Reed)
Subject: sharks vs. ducks tickets for sale
I am selling two club seats for the sunday 3/6 game against the mighty ducks.
Section 112, row 11, seats 1&2. $55 each plus the parking pass = $120.
It's in the corner near the goal that the sharks attack 1st and 3rd periods.
Right near Sun CEO Scooter McNealy and his crazy gang of executives. :-)
Email at email@hidden or call 408-379-7000x1417 and leave voice mail.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:28 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 14:26:17 PST
>
> We need these points on Thursday. I'm psyched to build on
> last night's strong third period and get some
> new momentum rolling on Thursday night that will carry
> us into the playoffs.
>
And don't forget, Constantine said the Sharks can make the playoffs "together"
with the fans - he wants us to back the team and start a "playoffs, playoffs"
chant before the first face off. (did anyone else see that interview?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:34 PST 1994
Date: 1 Mar 1994 14:28:03 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comm
Reply to: RE>>Last Night's Game--Comme
gak asks:
>WHAT WAS THE SCORE?!?
It was a 3-3 tie.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:27 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:25:56 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: playoff drive
I was looking at the schedule for the rest of the season and I realised it
doesn't look that tough (knock on wood). Of our opponents in the the 20
remaining games only 11 of them have more points than we currently have.11
of them are home games. Now granted we're not exactly on a tear right now
but we have 5 games against teams who are ice cold (winnipeg and LA).
Anyway here's how it looks
games with teams who are ahead of us
pitts 1 march 22
tor 2 march 24 and 31
cal 2 march 12 and april 8
vancouver 3 april 2,7 and 10
St Louis 1 (thank god) march 27
buffalo 1 march 8
NYI(barely) 1 march 10
games with teams who are behind us
anaheim 1(darn) march 6
edmonton 2 march 3 and april 13
LA 3 march 19,20 and april 5
winnipeg 2 march 25 and 29
ottawa 1 march 17
erik
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Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:47 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:48:57 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Thursday Night
>Is everybody going to do the `playoff' chant that Constantine
>said would help motivate his team on Thursday night before the
>puck is dropped?
How about substituting "playoffs" for "Pizza" from now on :-)
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:57 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 15:57:07 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
> ... Ottawa and Winnipeg, and in both cases, the ice
> was terrible. The Jets ice was kicking up amazing amounts of snow, which
> means it was soft, and it looked rutted as all get out. That really seems to
> be a factor in taking the Sharks off their game. The Ottawa ice was so bad
> it was dangerous. Fortunately, WE didn't get hurt..
How spoiled one can get! Not that many years ago, the NHL played on
frozen ponds, outdoors. Even today, in those places that have frozen
ponds, they get used for hockey and other skating.
Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
> >I would say that Ozolinsh, Norton, Kroupa, and the
> >surprisingly effective Pedersen are the top four,...
Surprisingly? Pederson has been the most consistently effective d-guy
out there. He's always blocking breakways, blocking shots, checking,
and generally doing what's needed.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 16:00 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 16:01:02 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
> Given our play recently, would you be confident? With the Kings behind us?
> and if the Ducks do land Kariya, they could be a better team.
Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
probably a bright decision for him.
> There are good reasons to worry. ...
All too true. The Sharks have the talent to stay in the playoff hunt,
but not necessarily the consistency in applying it.
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| "My Macintosh doesn't go out in the rain." |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 17:07 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Dave Hoffman / Product Engineer)
Subject: "Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs ..."
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Much to my surprise I haven't seen any mention of this yet on the list.
Between periods of the Winnipeg game on Ch 36 they said Constantine
had asked for an opportunity to speak directly to the fans. They then
showed about a 1 minute speech by KC. He rambled a bit but the gist
of it was: a) Thanks, the fan support has been great. b) This has
been a tough road trip & we're feeling tired and bruised. It will be
good to have the upcoming home stand. c) Even more fan support will
help the team get 'up' and secure a playoff spot.
He ended with the suggestion that 'maybe a chant of "playoffs, playoffs,
playoffs ..." before the face off at the next home game would help'.
Okay section 209, I think this is the hockey equivalent of a command
performance!
Dave
209/17/5-9
PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 17:33 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:12:40 +0800
From: email@hidden (Richard Schiavi)
Subject: WANTED: 3 tickets for Thurs night?
Looking for 3/4 tickets to Thursday nights Edmonton game.
Thanks,
Rich
(415) 336-1647 (Work)
(415) 647-4136
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 21:59 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 21:59:29 PST
Jon Cohen sez:
>>Hope [Larionov's] "flu," is not a euphemism for vodka, as it sometimes is
>>in sports circle.
>I don't think so, but in the Coach's Chalkboard pregame radio show, Dan
>Rusanowsky asked Constantine about Larionov. In what may have been a Freudian
>slip, Constantine said something to the effect that the team needs for Lariono
v
>"to recover from his injury -- err, flu -- quickly". So, perhaps Larionov is
>actually suffering from an injury and the team is calling it the flu to preven
t
>other teams from intentionally aggravating his injury when he returns
>(particularly given the upcoming Ducks game and the home-and-home series
>against the Kings later this month...).
He also said that half the team was sick and they were anxious to return to
San Jose and some warmer weather.
Also, no Russian player worth anything would let a little vodka keep him
from playing. ;-)
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:00 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Tickets wanted
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 7:59:15 PST
Hi All,
I have a friend who is looking for two tickets for tomorrow nights game. If
you have any for sale, let me know.
Thanks.
Craig
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:00 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 07:57:36 -0800
From: email@hidden (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Ken Zarifes writes:
>
>He also said that half the team was sick and they were anxious to return to
>San Jose and some warmer weather.
With as many times as Larionov has had the flu, you would think they would
get the guy a flu shot by now! Maybe they should spike the vodka with some
vitamin C!
Bill
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Email: email@hidden San Jose Sharks #2
"The Spectacular" San Jose Arena 104-24-3/4 Michigan Football #3
Rob Zettler Fan Club, San Jose Chapter Philadelphia Flyers #4?
******************** Sign Man of section 104 row 24 ********************
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:05 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 08:03:33 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: sharks vs. ducks tickets for sale
It was written:
"I am selling two club seats for the sunday 3/6 game against the mighty ducks.
Section 112, row 11, seats 1&2. $55 each plus the parking pass = $120.
It's in the corner near the goal that the sharks attack 1st and 3rd periods.
Right near Sun CEO Scooter McNealy and his crazy gang of executives. :-)
Email at email@hidden or call 408-379-7000x1417 and leave voice mail."
As an added bonus at this game, see my son and his Squirt B team from
Santa Clara play a quick 4 minute game against a team from Santa Rosa.
We played them last week and beat them 7-1, so they're looking for
revenge!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:20 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:20:05 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
goes down a bit more.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:24 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:24:22 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
>Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
>probably a bright decision for him.
But the Ducks haven't finished trying to entice him, yet, and Maine is in
the middle of some fairly nasty battles with the NCAA. Things still might
change.
>All too true. The Sharks have the talent to stay in the playoff hunt,
>but not necessarily the consistency in applying it.
Yup. A cost of a young, relatively inexperienced team, combined with a
relative lack of depth. One player out, or one player having a bad game can
noodge us over the line separating the decent with the ugly. As the team
grows, matures and improves in talent (which it will), that'll be less
noticable.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:11 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 09:12 PST
Subject: Need 2 Tix sunday 3/6
If anybody has two tickets for sunday against the Ducks for sale I'd be
more than happy to take them!!!!
Must be affordable.......no club seats please!
Joe Barretta
3Com Corp.
764-7152
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eugene pucine:hq:3Com, joe barretta:hq:3Com,
Jonathan Jones:hq:3Com, Peggy Dowling:hq:3Com,
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:20:05 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
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>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
goes down a bit more.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:16 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:17:58 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
>
>That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
>teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
>and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
>time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
>wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
>
>If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
>goes down a bit more.
This is professional hockey. You learn to deal with things such as bad ice
long ago. If anything, bad ice is an equalizer becuase neither team can
skate very well on it and it brings people down to the same level. IMHO
good ice will help a skating team (like Winnipeg BTW), but bad ice will
hurt both, not necessarily proportionally though.
All in all, the ice condition is one of the many variables to adjust to,
and at this level it does not cut it for an excuse. Imagine this... Any
Ranger to Keenan: "But coach, the ice was a bit slow out there tonight...",
HAHAHAHA :-) Besides, the ice was the same for both teams :-)
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:23 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:21:13 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
If you play on slow, chipped or otherwise crufty ice all the time, you're
a lot more likely to be used to it, and able to take advantage of it
than a team which sees said ice three times a year.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:31 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:31:22 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>If you play on slow, chipped or otherwise crufty ice all the time, you're
>a lot more likely to be used to it, and able to take advantage of it
>than a team which sees said ice three times a year.
>
>Laurie
Regardless, using the ice conditions to excuse a loss to Ottawa is
ridiculous. I suppose if the Sharks go play a Midget team on the pond the
Midgets play pickup on that can't be expected to win there either?
Seriously Ottawa has lost something like 17 of 18, and guess who the one
win was against. The Sharks are in playoff contention, and at this point
should show that they are serious and turn on the afterburners. Losing to
Ottawa, be the ice hard, soft, good or bad is not a good sign for a team
like the Sharks.
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:24 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:24:27 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: multidimensional models
(I was once approached to join a PhD group of mathematical psychologists--
that ought to scare you.)
There is no one factor that anyone can point to as a reason for a win or
a loss for a given team on any given night. I'm ignoring the "Godzilla
factor", which means sometimes one thing does happen that determines
a win, but that happens about as often as Godzilla trashing the local
campus.
If you were going to build a function that would predict a win or a loss, or
even predict how a team is going to do --otherwise, describing their
behaviour in a mathematical construct, you might end up with something like
this:
f (team behaviour)= a ((f) sleep)+/- b ((f) training) +/- c((f)
conditions)...
And so on, where each one of the functions may be made up of another set of
mathematical functions, which would not only be non-linear, but would be
multi-dimensional. The most complex "simple" multi-dimensional function I
ever worked with was in 7 dimensions. That's why they invented Cray
computers and FORTRAN way back when (sorry guys--when I was doing this,
object oriented languages were a collective gleam in Switzerland).
The weighting factors (a,b,c,) may also be non-linear or multi-dimensional
constructs. Usually they're simply non-linear.
Which means that if you want to predict or model a behaviour in a fashion
where you can say "this is the only reason" or "this is not the reason", you
get to solve a nice big problem. You want to make guesses, you can make
guesses.
So, let's look at the "bad ice" games. To either completely count or
discount the effect of the ice is one datapoint. Great--now what else is
caused by that ice being that way? Let's ee, puck movement, general speed,
passing ability, and the goalie being able to predict where the puck is
coming from.
Okay, that`s a start. Now, let's look at all the other factors (fatigue,
illness, morale, training level, sharpness of skates, how the sticks were
taped, relative humidity and temp in the building, referees and
linesmen--and now the relative effect on the Sharks by the same weighted
factors on the other team), weight them and plug them into the equation.
So, we come up with a hypothesis that says--"we think the ice was a
factor in the team's performance, and we can assign a guessed weighted factor
to this". But we also realize that there are a multitude of other factors
involved in determining how and why the team did what it did tonight.
Summary? "Is so!" "Is not!" arguements are linear--and that rarely happens
in real life.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:27 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 13:25:28 EST
Subject: Kariya
>>Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
>>probably a bright decision for him.
>But the Ducks haven't finished trying to entice him, yet, and Maine >is in
>the middle of some fairly nasty battles with the NCAA. Things still >might
>change.
Kariya had originally hoped to return to Maine and go for another NCAA title,
but that may have changed because Michigan looks awfully tough, and although
the Ferraro brothers are returning, Chris Imes and Matt Martin are going to
the minors and more importantly, Mike Dunham has reported to the New Jersey
Devils and Garth Snow is returning to the Nordiques (no goalies, no title).
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:57 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 13:54:39 EST
Subject: Observations
I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
I thought we have (had?) a whole slew of those and we really need to score
some goals... we were the last team with a 20-goal scorer, and he got it in
our last game. And speaking of that...where HAS the offense (what little of
it we do have) gone?
Odgers, Baker, More, Pederson, Duchesne score?
Larionov, Falloon, Elik, Garpenlov, Gaudreau don't?
why do we seem to be offensively so streaky? why do we seem to always have a
player or two with 7, 8, 10 games scoring streaks followed by 15 game
scoreless ones, but rarely, with the possible exception of Makarov, do we
have anybody score in 3 out of 5 or 4 out of 6? It can't all be youth, as
Igor, Elik, Sergei, Johan, Jamie have been around a while...
And seeing that trend, I don't get as upset as others that Ozolinsh, Norton,
Kroupa and Pederson get "offensive", after all scoring is the point. I am
sure it bothers them and Irbe that they play solid and lose or tie because
the guys paid to score don't.
The bottom line is the main guys need to either turn it up a notch
offensively, or get some guys here who CAN.
The Detroit game is an example, here you play a team that is 1 element from a
Cup according to most observers (A Goaltender) and is known as a wide-open
offensive power with very little defense and yet you only put 22 shots on
goal against a very young slightly shaky goalie and get shut-out 2-0.
If most teams could hold the Red Wings to 2 goals, they would win, because
Detroit gives up the most shots in the league and have one of the highest
team GAA's out there. But we simply can't (don't?) shoot enough, and
therefore can't (don't?) score enough.
Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO. And when the
coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it? I guarantee
that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players. Maybe KC is a bit
overmatched right now (after all he is young, too) In fact, Wayne Thomas
apparently is running most game strategy now, according to reports.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 12:12 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:10:41 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Observations
>I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
>featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
>list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
>inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never said
anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY defenseman. They have,
in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason why the
Zettler trade happened.
And besides, if Shawn Cronin isn't a physical defenseman, who is? If Doug
Zmolek isn't a physical defenseman, who is?
Whoever wrote that did poor, or no, research on the team. Our needs are a
backup goalie (which we won't trade for, given what we have on the farm),
and scoring forwards, especially at left wing.
>why do we seem to be offensively so streaky?
It may simply be because we don't HAVE the one player who scores day in and
day out, and so the other streaks become more noticable. Another factor:
when a player gets hot, the scouts notice and the teams that we play then
focus on stopping him. In previous years, when our scoring line got stopped,
we stopped. Now, when one line gets hit by the top defense, another line
pops up and takes over. That's an advantage of having more than one solid
scoring line, because it makes us that much harder to defend.
>And seeing that trend, I don't get as upset as others that Ozolinsh, Norton,
>Kroupa and Pederson get "offensive", after all scoring is the point. I am
>sure it bothers them and Irbe that they play solid and lose or tie because
>the guys paid to score don't.
I don't get upset AT ALL, as long as the players (and the rest of the team)
understands and knows to be ready to plug up transition breakaways.
>Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
>Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO.
We're a playoff team if we have more points than the non-playoff teams at
the end of the season. Period. But your point is well-taken. We have to beat
the weaker teams if we want a good shot at making the playoffs. I think,
however, that we've done pretty well at doing that. Losses are
disapppointing, true -- but they're a fact of life.
>And when the
>coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
>there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it?
I don't see it that way. I think it's more that he knows his team plays
better with the crowd behind it, and that they need a boost right now. We're
20 games out, chronic fatigue from a long season is starting to be a factor,
we had a bad road trip, and he'd like to see the fans welcome the team back
and give them some encouragement. If he thinks it'll help, then we should
help.
>I guarantee
>that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
>needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players.
They're not teams loaded with 19, 20 and 21 year olds who've never been in a
playoff race before. They're all teams with older, more mature talent and a
long team tradition of winning who know what it takes. we're building all
that from scratch. In Montreal, when you walk into the home dressing room,
all of the ghosts stare down at you and demand nothing but your best. In San
Jose, we haven't been here long enough to have ghosts.
>Maybe KC is a bit
>overmatched right now (after all he is young, too) In fact, Wayne Thomas
>apparently is running most game strategy now, according to reports.
Possibly a bit. But having a bench coach run strategy isn't at all unusual,
so I don't see that as a criticism. Bobby Murdoch did it last year.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 13:34 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:36:34 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Observations
>Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
>Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO. And when the
Well thank god your HO does not run the NHL. It might be something like
the College Football Bowl games decisions on who makes it into the
playoffs. However, I do believe that if the Sharks don't pick it up again
and start to beat the bad teams when they have to, (The Ottawa loss was
horrible and the Winnipeg loss could have been deadly if the Jets had Teemu
for their playoff run...) they are not going to be a playoff team.
>coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
>there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it? I guarantee
>that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
>needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players. Maybe KC is a bit
Well NY, Detroit, MTL, etal have years of tradition behind them, they all
know the game of hockey including strategy. Here in the Bay Area the fan
base is relatively new and from what I have seen, any person who has
actually taken the ice and gone through a beginner clinic thinks they know
all about hockey strategy and can point out what the Sharks are doing
wrong. I think it is great that KC called for the playoff chant. Someone
needed to! I have been wishing for months that people would change the
Pizza chant to playoffs. Maybe now my wish will come true...
The crowd is aHUGE part of the home ice advantage even more than the crappy
ice conditions IMHO. It would be nice to see the crowd get behind the team
cheer for them at times other than after a goal.
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:04 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 15:03:54 PST
>
>
> >I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
> >featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
> >list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
> >inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
>
> That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never said
> anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY defenseman. They have,
> in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason why the
> Zettler trade happened.
>
Not only that, but the newest issue that arrived yesterday, says that the
Sharks may have the best four young defensemen in the league - Ozolinsh,
Rathje, Sykora and Kroupa.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:07 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 18:04:49 EST
Subject: My HO
>Well thank god your HO does not run the NHL. It might be >something like
>the College Football Bowl games decisions on who makes it into >the
>playoffs.
My HO could probably run it better than John Ziegler did, though.
>However, I do believe that if the Sharks don't pick it up again
>and start to beat the bad teams when they have to... they are not >going to
be a playoff team.
That was my point...merely MAKING the playoffs will be tough if we continue
to drop these kinds of games, we simply don't have enough margin to play
with.
>Well NY, Detroit, MTL, etal have years of tradition behind them, >they all
>know the game of hockey including strategy. Here in the Bay Area >the fan
>base is relatively new and from what I have seen, any person who >has
>actually taken the ice and gone through a beginner clinic thinks >they know
>all about hockey strategy and can point out what the Sharks are >doing
>wrong. I think it is great that KC called for the playoff chant.
I resemble, er resent...yeah resent, the beginner hockey remark
However, my point is that the fans should (and probably would) respond on
their own, without prodding from the coach. It just seems like a desperation
move by Constantine, and while it is bad right now, it isn't as though the
fans have abandoned the team. Don't let 'em know you sweat, KC.
Geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:12 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 18:09:48 EST
Subject: Re:Re: Observations
>That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never >said
>anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY >defenseman. They have,
>in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason >why the
Zettler trade happened.
I agree. I didn't even mention the part where they kind of off-handedly
stated that the Sharks were rebuffing all offers for Irbe and Ozolinsh. I
can hear Bryan Murray now:
Ok Dean, here's the deal... I give you Mike Sillinger and 2 of Ray Sheppard's
broken sticks for Irbe. And by the way, since we're #1 and you're #8, we'll
see you in the playoffs. Thanks for calling.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:39 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 15:36:08 PST
From: Kyle Wohlmut
Subject: Cheap seat available
Single ticket available for tomorrow night's game against Edmonton: 225/15/7.
Going for face value, $14. Only drawback is that you will have to sit next
to me and my two crazy friends. E-mail reply, please...
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\ Stanford - Kind. Ach, wie gut dass niemand weiss,
- Executive' / dass ich email@hidden heiss.'
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 17:38 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 20:33:48 EST
Subject: KC Blades
For those that are interested:
KC beat the Red Army Penguins 2-1 last friday in a shootout. $14,000 people
showed up for the game. KC beat Cleveland 6-3 on Tuesday (at Cleveland).
They are 6-1-1 in their last 8 games. They play Atlanta tonight (Mar 2) at
home.
If anyone needs KC Blades merchandise, I have tons of KC BLades brochures.
Let me know and I can mail you one. email@hidden
Rene - Blueline Fan - #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 18:17 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:16:30 -0800
From: email@hidden (Peter Jacobs)
Subject: Cheap Seat Available
Single ticket available for tommorow night's games vs. Oilers
210 16/13
Price $14
email@hidden
415-512-2404
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 13:13 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 16:11:01 EST
Subject: KC Blades
Wow, what a response! I'll try to mail all the brochures out by Monday (I
called today to have them send me more). For those ordering call the
following number: 816-842-5233 and ask for merchandise dept. or Tom Ell
(manager). By the way the shot glass comes in very handy.
The Blades lost last night to Atlanta 3-2 in a shootout. They're still
fighting to catch up for that last playoff spot.They have three games this
weekend : one away (Milwaukee) and two at home (Milwaukee and Las Vegas).
I'll see if I can get scores for Monday.
Also to those who asked the "Thank you Mr. Sather" sign will be up tonight.
By the way, considering the Blades were rated one of the worst logos I'm
impressed so many of you want merchandise!
Rene - Blueline Fan - #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 16:06 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:02:17 PST
From: kahului!email@hidden (Douglas J Whisler)
Subject: Re: multidimensional models
> From: Laurie Sefton
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: multidimensional models
...lecture deleted...
>
> Laurie
>
Personnally, I always considered it to be 60 minutes of mayhem inside of
a 85x200 box, divided into thirds. (the minutes, not the box.)
;)
All seriousness aside, I do recall commentary about the Penguins' ongoing
problems with poor ice at their Igloo. Since they were trying to be a
finesse passing playmaking team, rutty or uneven ice (from sloppy Zamboni
work) was a problem. Ruts and ripples *do* make the puck do weird things,
like jump over sticks. Or pads. That's why goalies scuff out any lumps
around the goal, even out beyond the faceoff dots.
So, like in baseball where they supposedly water down the infield or mow
it sideways or whatever depending on the opponent, can the Zamboni drivers
make the ice better at one end than the other? Lets face it - uneven ice
in your defending zone would help you against precision passing teams, eh?
- DW
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 16:52 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:51:04 PST
From: email@hidden (Sheri Gillette)
Subject: Falloooooooooooon @ Macy's!!!!!!!
Fallon will be signing WATCHES??? (That's what it says!!)
Macy's Valley Fair
THIS Saturday...
3pm...
They have *SHARKS* "Fossil" watches for sale there...$65...
See ya there!!!
"Falloooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!"
At my first game I aksed..."Why are they Boo-ing???"
O8*)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 19:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:24:59 PST
Subject: Need tix for 3/20
I need two tickets for the game on 3/20. I'm not picky about location.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 19:02 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:27:42 PST
Subject: Minor league salaries
Chuq posted something on the giants list about the appallingly low pay for
minor league baseball players (less than minimum wage, it would appear). Is
the same true for hockey?
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 23:13 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Falloooooooooooon @ Macy's!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 23:12:32 PST
>"Falloooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!"
>At my first game I aksed..."Why are they Boo-ing???"
When Falloon first played as a Shark, he thought the crowd was booing him.
For a while there, he thought the fans didn't like him. Someone finally
clued him in.
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 05:26 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:21:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
Some one has put me on this mailing list and I want off!!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 06:21 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
They'll win again
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:03 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
How do I get off this list. Someone has put me on it as a joke.
|||
(. .)
--------------------------------------------------------OOo-U-oOO-------------
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Gordon Heckadon
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:10 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:08:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Radio changes
Because of A's baseball, some more games are moving from KFRC to KLIV:
3/10 vs. the Ducks, 3/12 vs. the flames, 3/19 vs. the kings, 3/20 vs. the kings,
3/25 vs. the jets, 4/7 vs. the Canucks, 4/8 vs. the flames and 4/13 vs. the
Oilers.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:15 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:14:21 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Eagleson Indicted?
I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
this?
On a completely different topic: don't forget to cheer for the
Santa Clara Valley Blackhawks Squirt B team as they skate against
the Sant Rosa Squirts on Sunday! I don't know if we'll be skating
at the first or the second intermission, but the kids are pumped!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:28 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:26:24 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Eagleson Indicted?
>I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
>this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
>Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
>this?
Yup. 32 federal counts, including embezzlement, mail fraud, racketeering,
obstruction of justice and other goodies. They asking for a return of some
millions of dollars in funds. It's a real laundry list, from kickbacks and
bribes to outright fraud, use of funds for personal investments and all
sorts of fun stuff.
I hope they nail his butt, even if only 10% of this is true.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:34 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 07:56:36 PST
From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
Subject: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
Has anyone else noticed the improved coverage in the Merc finally. They been
real good on even non-game days about covering the Sharks and have even had a
few double page issues. The Sharks always seem to get at least a couple of
inches on the front page. The Sharks seem to have transitioned from the "ugly
car crash" type of articles to "serious fan interest" type of articles now that
the team is doing well.
Does anyone know when Mike Weaver's last day is? I thought he would have been
gone by now, especially after the Merc gave him a lot of space to write his
goodbye letter a couple of months ago. You'd figure that they wait to run it
on his last day.
Shark players (and ex-players) have drawn a lot of suspensions out of other
players lately.
1. Neil Wilkinson - Tony Granato ?? games for the chop on Wilinsion
2. David Maley - Mike Fitzpatrick 2 games for slashing
3. Jimmy Baker - Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging
At least the Sharks haven't pulled any suspensions.
Who's on the trading block? The trading deadline is fast approaching and the
Sharks have always drop a few players just before the draft. But this year
it's going to be different. I imaging that the tensions are running a bit high
in the locker room now that Larinov and Norton are back in the line-up.
If you have a child between the ages of 6-12 (I think) and they'd like to be
an honorary stick boy/girl listen to KLIV-1590am. I'm mine not sure on the exact
conditions so give them a call. If they pick you, you get 4 tickets to the
NY Islander game, get to sit on the bench during warmups, a signed hockey stick
and a chance to meet all of the players. You need to fax or write them before
March 7/8 and the game is on the March 10. Give them a call for exact details.
And finally..
Thanks to whoever posted the record against the Ducks yesterday. I won tickets
to Sunday's Ducks game because I knew it was 5-0 and was the right caller on
KLIV.
--
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Edward McGettigan | Crosspoint Solutions Inc. |
|email@hidden | FPGA Applications Engineer 408.988.1584 |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:56 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:54:02 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Has anyone else noticed the improved coverage in the Merc finally.
It's been that way all season. They really stepped up the coverage this
year. I'm frankly impressed, and it's now on a par with what you can get in
a number of other hockey citys. Not up to the par of the top cities, but you
can do a lot worse (frankly, what I've seen out of LA is not as good as we
get now. The LA Daily News is pretty horrible).
>The Sharks seem to have transitioned from the "ugly
>car crash" type of articles to "serious fan interest" type of articles now that
>the team is doing well.
Funny, winning and playoff contention will do that...
>Does anyone know when Mike Weaver's last day is?
I think you're confused. I don't believe Weaver is going anywhere. Teh one
who wrote the letter was Mark Purdy, who left for Cincinatti January 9. The
Merc is still looking for a replacement.
>Who's on the trading block?
If there's a trade on the horizon, it's for scoring forwards, and it'd be
giving up defensemen. If I were Jay More, I'd probably be nervous. The only
defensemen that probably aren't nervous are Sandis and Vlasti Kroupa. I
could see any of the others being traded for the right package, but it'd
have to be a good deal to give up someone like Sykora or Rathje. I'm still
wondering if we can work something out for Sakic, but it doens't seem
likely.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:08 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: 3/3 Game Report
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 9:02:36 -0800 (PST)
The Sharks did what they had to do, grinding out a 4-2
win over Edmonton to open their home stand and stay five
points ahead of both the Kings and Ducks in the playoff race.
Edmonton clearly wanted this game badly, as the Sharks did,
and the entire close-checking game had an intense, hard-fought
quality. I couldn't detect a single Shark who wasnt busting his
fin out there. Captain Errey--who must burn more calories per
game than anyone else in the league, was a forechecking
whirlwind. Falloon, Ellik, Odgers, and Baker all also
forechechecked furiously, taking the hits when necessary
to keep the Sharks in control.
The return of Norton and Larionov made the difference in
the game. Norton was a pillar of strength at the blue line and
also had assists on two games. There was one 4 on 4 situation
in the game when we had Norton, Ozolinsh, Makarov, and
Larionov out there, and--for my first time as a Sharks
fan--I got the sense that we had an awesome lineup on
the ice that was really something tough for the opponent
to contend with. Larionov was at his playmaking best,
sending in Garpenlov for a breakaway goal at the end
of the second period that pretty much put the game
away.
Makarov had another strong game, with one goal and one
assist. His goal was a beauty, as he wrapped around the
net, came in front, and deked Ranford into a paralized,
helpless state before backhanding it in. Reminded me of
one of those magicians who steal your shirt while
your jacket is still buttoned. I am
amazed at Makarov's ability to accelerate, and to
stop instantly at full speed while keeping control of
the puck. Maybe only Gretzky can do (could?) these things as well.
Ranford did not have a good game. He looked
slightly chicken and stiffened up on Ozolinshes
first Sharks goal--a semi-breakaway. It wasn't clear
to me if Ozolinsh pumped and changed-up on the shot on
purpose, or whether he just partly fanned and had
his soft shot slide past the frozen Ranford. Ranford
handled both the Garpenlov and Whitney breakaways by
leaving a corner and then trying to fill it up.
This failed both times, as he was cleanly beaten.
Quite a contrast to Irbe, who takes everything
square and does not show off. One thing that really
makes Irbe stand out, I think, is is his ability and
willingness to make a tough save look easy, whereas
other goalies seem eager to pose for the photos of that
perfect toe save.
Two other stars--Cronin, who delivered a clear message
early that the big, lunky, physical Edmonton team could
not push the Sharks around, and Kroupa, who is tough in
front of the net, deft at both poke- and bodychecking,
and --at 18--plays like a cagey veteran.
Two disappointments--the "playoffs" chant never became
too intense. The top deck did its part, but the
club seats were indifferent or else just clueless. Also,
referree Jackson did his best to keep Edmonton in
the game, calling a net 6 extra minutes of pwer play on us and
applying a mysterious, personal standard.
****
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:18 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:15:17 +0800
From: email@hidden (Ralph Torres)
Subject: Irbe autographs
In yesterday's (thursday) SJ Mercury News sports page (the "hockey page")
there was an ad for an autograph signing by Irbe.
I can't remember the name of the card/collectible shop, but here's
what I do recall:
WHERE: somplace on N. Santa Cruz Ave, Menlo Park
WHEN: Saturday, March 5, 2-3pm
COST: free with minimum purchase, or $5
On another note, the latest annual report for San Jose Water Company
(neighbors of the Arena) contains plenty of rather cool Arena and
Sharks pictures.
"playoffs! playoffs! playoffs!"
Ralph
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:50 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:49:26 -0800
From: email@hidden (Kevin McCallum)
Subject: Begging for 2 Ducks tix 3/6!
Hello,
I am in desperate need of 2 tickets for this Sunday's (3/6)
Mighty Ducks game.....most preferably in the Club Seats if possible!
I've promised a girlfriend to take her that day, and the seats I'd
been planning on buying just suddenly fell through.....so price is
no object! Whatever it takes to make this happen, I'm ready and
willing to do.
I can be reached by phone at the following numbers:
WORK/DAYTIME: (510) 644-3600 ext.#308
HOME/EVENING: (707) 762-5567 ans.machine
I can also be reached by e-mail at this address (not on weekends):
email@hidden
If anyone has any suggestions about what else I may do to obtain
tickets to this sold out game, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks much.
=Kev.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 10:59 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 10:59:07 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
> From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
> Who's on the trading block? The trading deadline is fast approaching and the
> Sharks have always drop a few players just before the draft. But this year
> it's going to be different. I imaging that the tensions are running a bit high
> in the locker room now that Larinov and Norton are back in the line-up.
Uh, has anyone seen Dale Craigwell on the ice lately? He doesn't exactly
look to be in the catbird seat around here (which is too bad, really,
but guys who aren't given much ice time had better not make a lot of
permanent commitments).
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| "My Macintosh doesn't go out in the rain." |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:32 PST 1994
From: Valerie Schmitt
Subject: Thank you all.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:31:42 -0500 (EST)
Hi all,
I don't want to use up too much space to say this, but I really wanted
to tell all of you how much I appreciate the civility of the Sharks
Byte list. I'm also on the Isles and Bruins lists (sorry, I was born in
NY and live in Boston ... self preservation ;-) and they are constantly
at each others' throats. We Sharks fans don't always agree on
everything, but at least we're relatively polite about it!
Thanks for keeping a Sharks fan lost on the other coast in-the-know!
PLAYOFFS!
VJ
_______________________________________________________________________
Valerie J. Schmitt IRI Software "... immerse yourself in the
617-290-4500 x7918 200 Fifth Ave great riddle of this dream of
email@hidden Waltham MA 02154 life here on earth." Thomas Mann
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:34 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:31:47 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Uh, has anyone seen Dale Craigwell on the ice lately?
True, but when you're talking trading block, there has to be a market value
attached. You could make a good case for trading away Jamie Baker, Dale, Jay
More, Mike Lalor and possibly Jimmy Waite (but that would complicate the
Kansas City playoff race horribly, which is probably why Jimmy will stick
the rest of the season, but may not play again), but what would we get in
return? Would it be useful? And doesn't that leave us rather thin in case of
injury?
Dale's a nice guy, He hustles, plays beyond his size, and has done a pretty
good job at shadowing some of the Big Boys like Gretzky and Lindros, but he
can only play so much bigger than his size, and that's an ultimate weakness.
Elik has taken over a good chunk of his face-off responsibility, and that
makes him somewhat expendable. But how many other teams out there are going
to trade something we need for an undersized mosquito who's a face-off whiz?
There just isn't that big a market.
So if we lose Dale, it's more as a player to make a trade happen than a
cornerstone.
Speaking of Elik, any reaction by Sather or the team to the sign?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:47 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:45:38 PST
From: email@hidden (Curtis Chen)
Subject: Radio changes
Zippy-Says: Am I SHOPLIFTING?
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:08:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Sender: email@hidden
Content-Length: 239
Because of A's baseball, some more games are moving from KFRC to KLIV:
What frequency does KLIV broadcast on?
Curtis
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 12:22 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 12:15:38 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Begging for 2 Ducks tix
Reply to: RE>Begging for 2 Ducks tix 3/6
Kevin McCallum asks:
>If anyone has any suggestions about what else I may do to obtain tickets
>to this sold out game, I'd love to hear them.
The Sharks withhold a certain number of tickets for the visiting team, league
officials, etc., plus (I think) they withhold a few hundred more to deter
scalpers. These tickets, which normally number 600-1000, go on sale at 9:30AM
on the morning of the game at the Arena box office only. Not having purchased
tickets this way, I don't know if you should show up a little before the box
office open; if I were you, however, I would.
>From my own experience buying a ticket at the box office the night of a game
(I'd already given up my season ticket for the night, but my plans changed),
the more expensive seats tend to sell last. Any $14 seats they have left are
snapped up instantly.
Hope this helps!
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 12:47 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:45:56 +0800
From: email@hidden (Steve Worth)
Subject: Re: Irbe autographs
Arthurs will be at Home Field Advantage
Sat march 5
2-3 pm
626 Santa Cruz ave (1 block west of the El Camino)
415-323-9450
This sounds like a short autographing time.
> From email@hidden Fri Mar 4 10:17 PST 1994
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Irbe autographs
> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
> Sender: email@hidden
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 529
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>
>
> In yesterday's (thursday) SJ Mercury News sports page (the "hockey page")
> there was an ad for an autograph signing by Irbe.
>
> I can't remember the name of the card/collectible shop, but here's
> what I do recall:
>
> WHERE: somplace on N. Santa Cruz Ave, Menlo Park
> WHEN: Saturday, March 5, 2-3pm
> COST: free with minimum purchase, or $5
>
> On another note, the latest annual report for San Jose Water Company
> (neighbors of the Arena) contains plenty of rather cool Arena and
> Sharks pictures.
>
> "playoffs! playoffs! playoffs!"
>
> Ralph
>
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 13:14 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 13:09:19 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Suspensions
Subject: Time:12:40 PM
OFFICE MEMO Suspensions Date:3/4/94
Ed McGettigan sez (with a few corrections by me):
>Tony Granato ?? games for the chop on Wilkinson
15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache. Granato viewed a tape
of the incident, said he was "sickened" by his own actions, and admitted that
nothing Wilkinson did to him (a hard, clean check, from reports I've read)
could possibly justify his response. What a breath of fresh air from the "it
was unintentional" or "you didn't see what he did to me right before that"
whining of many of this season's other suspendees.
>Mark Fitzpatrick 2 games for slashing David Maley
Again, the concensus is that this was a slap on the wrist, despite the fact
that Andy Van Hellemond did not even throw Fitzpatrick out of the game (he got
a double minor, I believe). Van Hellemond apparently felt that Maley had taken
a run at Fitzpatrick behind the net, partially mitigating the chop to the face
(his reasoning, not mine).
>Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging Bob Errey
4 games, I believe. And it happened in his second game after returning to LA.
The Kings have been acting all season like they think they can't win without
him. So they trade to get him back, he scores on his first shift after
rejoining the Kings (in the game before LA played the Sharks), and then the
Kings are without him again for four more games! Sometimes you can't win for
losing...
>At least the Sharks haven't pulled any suspensions.
Umm, actually, we did. If you'll recall, earlier in the season Errey checked
Calgary's Frank Musil into the boards from behind, earning a game misconduct
and a 2 game suspension. I don't think we've gotten any suspensions for
multiple stick-related majors, however, unlike the first two seasons (Gaetz,
Odgers, and Jay More, I believe)...
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:31 PST 1994
From: Kris Davis
Subject: Sharks ticket for Sunday's game
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:22:19 -0800 (PST)
Is there anyone out there that has tickets available for Sunday's
game against the Ducks?
email@hidden
Kris Davis, Revenue Clerk ()_()
Cash Goddess (_)
Revenue "Squeak! Squeak, I tell you! Squeak!"
ext. 4566 (direct line (408) 429-4566)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:11:58 PST
From: email@hidden (Douglas B. O'Morain)
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
>
> If there's a trade on the horizon, it's for scoring forwards, and it'd be
> giving up defensemen. If I were Jay More, I'd probably be nervous. The only
> defensemen that probably aren't nervous are Sandis and Vlasti Kroupa. I
> could see any of the others being traded for the right package, but it'd
> have to be a good deal to give up someone like Sykora or Rathje. I'm still
> wondering if we can work something out for Sakic, but it doens't seem
> likely.
Speaking of Rathje, what was the deal with him last night? I got there
rather late, so I wouldn't know if he has an injury or anything. I
thought I saw him on the bench, but I don't recall him playing a single
shift. Is he in the doghouse, injured, or other?
dbo
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:13:48 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Sharks of Old banished?
>From a private conversation:
> ... Have the Sharks of Old finally been banished again?
I certainly hope so. They played a solid 60 minutes of quality hockey
last night. I don't know how much of the apparent quality was because
of the stumblebums they were playing against, but it looked to me like
it was real. I especially remember one two-on-one where Zmolek was
trying to threaten them both. He seems to have intimidated the puck-
handler (right winger) into not passing to the left winger, then he
went down and blocked the shot with his body. The guy next to me
cringed in sympathetic pain, amidst comments about Zmolek's suddenly
high voice. Z. *was* rather slow and cautious as he went off the ice.
That sort of effort seemed to typify the game.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:17 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:15:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Speaking of Rathje, what was the deal with him last night? I got there
>rather late, so I wouldn't know if he has an injury or anything. I
>thought I saw him on the bench, but I don't recall him playing a single
>shift. Is he in the doghouse, injured, or other?
Rat has had a couple of minor injuries recently, an abdominal strain
and a ligament strain in one knee. It's possible he agravated one or the
other.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:42 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:38:40 PST
From: email@hidden (Brian Ackley)
Subject: Missing insert card
Help!
I missed the insert card for the game on February 21st. Since I'm
trying to complete a full set, I would really like to find this card!
I believe it was Mark Beaufait?!? I have a few extra to trade if this
would help anyone else collecting them.
Thanks,
Brian
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:59 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 15:52:08 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramb
email@hidden
Reply to: RE>> Misc. Late Season Rambl
Chuq sez:
>Rat has had a couple of minor injuries recently, an abdominal strain
>and a ligament strain in one knee.
In yesterday morning's Murky News, they listed the ligament strain as the
reason Rathje might be kept out of the game. His injury was "day-to-day".
Igor Larionov was also listed as day-to-day with the flu, but fortunately he
was able to play.
One more name to add to Jon Cohen's list of Sharks who performed really well
last night: Mike Lalor, who quite possibly had his best game of the season.
In most games, Lalor seems to be either invisible (not necessary a bad thing
for a defensive defenseman), a step late, or inaccurate with his passes. Last
night he was rock solid: intercepting passes, getting in the Oilers' way,
skating around opponents with the puck under control, and making smart passes.
The fact that I normally have negative (or at best neutral) feelings about his
play made his good work last night stand out.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:06 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 16:01:22 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Missing insert card
Reply to: RE>Missing insert card
Brian Ackley sez:
>I missed the insert card for the game on February 21st.
I haven't checked at the Arena Sharks Store, but I noticed several weeks ago
that the Vallco Sharks Store had a large stack of the collectible lineup cards
behind the counter. I don't know how long it takes for the store(s) to get the
cards from specific games (I don't believe the Vallco store got them in until
just before Christmas), but you can probably call and ask when they'll get in
the remaining cards from that game.
Dave Comstock (who needs to compile a list of games he's missed so far this
season and take a trip to the store himself ;-)
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 16:25:00 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: Sharks on-line
I am not sure this is the right place but I'll give it a try. I hear
there is a Sharks info/BBS/something that all my friends get mail
from, getttinf updates on the team, etc. Can I get on the mailing
list, please?
-Andre Kvitka
************************************************************************
* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
* InfoWorld Magazine MCI: 529-1119 *
* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:53 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:53:01 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: KLIV and KKHI radio
For northerly Sharks fans, the games broadcast on KLIV (1590) in SJ are
also broadcast on KKHI (1500+), from San Francisco. That includes
Sunday's Ducks game.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:57 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:56:01 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Nedved signs with the Blues
Mentioned only because we've talked about possibly acquiring him, Canuck
holdout Petr Nedved has come to an agreement with the Blues. The Bluies now
have a few days to come to agreement with the Canucks for compensation, or
it goes to an arbitrator.
Not that I wanted an attitude like Nedved on the Sharks, but it's one 30 goal
player out of the market, and not going to a team that can affect our playoff
chnces.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 17:33 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 17:15:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
Subject: Anheim Ducks Tickets For Sale
I have 2 $14.00 tickets for this Sunday's Duck game at 2:00pm
Section 209 Row 13 Seats 3&4 $14.00 each
If you're interested contact me.
Ed McGettigan
Home:408-748-9488
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 17:41 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:06:28 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Suspensions
>15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
>was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache.
Actually, concussed, but was able to play the next game. It wasn't a
horrible concussion. Thank god for helmets.
And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which would
you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed and doing
what Granato did?
>Van Hellemond apparently felt that Maley had taken
>a run at Fitzpatrick behind the net, partially mitigating the chop to the face
>(his reasoning, not mine).
Burke agrees with Van Hellemond. Maley doesn't, and is muttering about
lawyers. Burke has invited Maley to come visit and they'll go over the tape
frame by frame and explain WHY they ruling was made. I expect Maley won't go
through with legal action, but Burke's been pretty straight-shooting this
year, so if he says he saw something on tape, I tend to think he's right.
>>Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging Bob Errey
>4 games, I believe.
Yes.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 18:21 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:23:01 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Eagleson Indicted?
>I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
>this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
>Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
>this?
Read a book called "Net Worth" I can get you the ISBN number if you like.
It tells all about how Eagleson stole from the NHLPA, and did not hel pas
much as he should have. He allegedly ripped off the NHLPA pension fund for
huge amounts of $$ to support his sizeable entourage which followed him to
all events from NHL games to International Hockey tourneys...
Boy have the NHL players been screwed over the past 50 years if anything
that book said had any semblance of truth...
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 18:55 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 94 18:51:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: Power play killing as an art form
Unlike some earlier respondents, I don't think last night's game
was really such a great, hard hitting game (but I am VERY SATISFIED with
the final score). I thought the Sharks coasted a bit after they got the
4-1 lead, and it almost hurt them. There were some real bright spots,
however, including the Playoffs chant (well, WE were making noise),
and something else I'm wondering if people noticed. In the third
--- sorry, make that the second- period, Sharks up 3-1, Edmonton on the
power play, the Sharks did a hell of a job killing off a very determined
attack. They did not clear the puck out (or Ah-oot, for those who prefer
the French pronunciation) out of the zone, but they did an amazing job
of keeping the Oilers from getting off a good shot. At least two Sharks
went down and blocked shots, there was some serious checking to keep
Oilers from parking in front of Irbe, and some impressive stamina shown
by the Sharks, as they were not exactly in a position to pull a line
change. I think the puck was in the Sharks defensive zone over 90 seconds
of a 2 minute PP, and yet the penalty was killed off cleanly.
By the way; I was at an engineering nerd conference in the Fairmount
all week, and saw the Oilers check in. I really wanted to thank Sather
for giving us Elik, so I asked if he was there, but fortunately for me
he wasn't; in hindsight, it probably would not have been a good idea to be
a wise ass in front of 20 guys who were all a lot - and I mean A LOT- bigger
then me. (No, I didn't ask Manson how his family was either).
See you Sunday. PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS!
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 00:24 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Suspensions (fwd)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:22:51 -0800 (PST)
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
> >15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
> >was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache.
>
> Actually, concussed, but was able to play the next game. It wasn't a
> horrible concussion. Thank god for helmets.
>
> And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which would
> you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed and doing
> what Granato did?
Neither. And I think that the league made an example out of Granato. 15 games
is a very significant suspension; it's equivalent to a 30 game suspension in
baseball.
If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys, then
I think they will learn quickly.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 07:26 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 07:25:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Suspensions (fwd)
>Neither. And I think that the league made an example out of Granato.
They did. And neither is a laudable goal, but I don't think it's a practical
one.
>If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys, then
>I think they will learn quickly.
Definitely. I wonder when they'll just take Kasparitus out and shoot him,
though. Put him out of our misery.
(hey! nelson lives! hi, nelson!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 13:02 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 12:48:51 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: Re: Suspensions
>
> And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which
> would you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed
> and doing what Granato did?
Actually, the NHL *does* have fighting. And yet, the Granato incident still
happened!!!!:-)
I'm not a total anti-fighting person (I *am* a total anti-cheap-shot person),
but does this 'fighting or stickwork' argument sound to anybody else like
"let's legalize assault in order to prevent murders"?
Girard Ramsay
email@hidden
120/6/8-9
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 14:15 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Tickets for Sun vs Ducks
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 14:18:37 PST
Gang,
I have two tickets in section 117, row 21 for $38 each (face value).
Give me a call at (408) 285-7675 and leave a message, or better yet,
page me at (408) 989-8163. I'm not likely to see a reply to this
message, so please call.
-Daryll
Sec 117 Row 21 Seats 11-12
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 14:20 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 14:20:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Kasparitus and Ducks PP
> >If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys,
>
> Definitely. I wonder when they'll just take Kasparitus out and shoot him,
> though. Put him out of our misery.
Yesterday (Friday), K. got a minor for interference when he went down on
his knees to trip a guy.
BTW, just to encourage some optimism for tomorrow's Ducks game: last
night, the Ducks scored a power-play goal to end a 30-PP string of failures
at home. Even our penalty-killers should have a good time with these guys.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 16:08 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:06:56 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Playoff dates
from AOL
NHL PLAYOFFS:
(All series best-of-seven)
CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, April 17
Tuesday, April 19
Thursday, April 21
Saturday, April 23
Monday, April 25 (if necessary)
Wednesday, April 27 (if necessary)
Friday, April 29 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, April 18
Wednesday, April 20
Friday, April 22
Sunday, April 24
Tuesday, April 26 (if necessary)
Thursday, April 28 (if necessary)
Saturday, April 30 (if necessary)
CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, May 1
Tuesday, May 3
Thursday, May 5
Saturday, May 7
Monday, May 9 (if necessary)
Wednesday, May 11 (if necessary)
Friday, May 13 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, May 2
Wednesday, May 4
Friday, May 6
Sunday, May 8
Tuesday, May 10 (if necessary)
Thursday, May 12 (if necessary)
Saturday, May 14 (if necessary)
CONFERENCE FINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, May 15
Tuesday, May 17
Thursday, May 19
Saturday, May 21
Monday, May 23 (if necessary)
Wednesday, May 25 (if necessary)
Friday, May 27 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, May 16
Wednesday, May 18
Friday, May 20
Sunday, May 22
Tuesday, May 24 (if necessary)
Thursday, May 26 (if necessary)
Saturday, May 28 (if necessary)
STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP:
Tuesday, May 31
Thursday, June 2
Saturday, June 4
Tuesday, June 7
Thursday, June 9 (if necessary)
Saturday, June 11 (if necessary)
Tuesday, June 14 (if necessary)
Note: Dates for the Finals series are tentative; the series could begin sooner.
FROM: The Hockey News, 3/4/94
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 16:41 PST 1994
From: Brian Bechtel
Subject: Playoff ticket orders!
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:40:14 PST
I received the Sharks mailing about playoff tickets today. The costs
for single tickets has been set, but no date when you can purchase
single tickets has yet been set. Costs are:
Regular Round 1, 2 Round 3
------- ---------- -------
$65 $75 $85
$55 $65 $75
$38 $43 $50
$38 $43 $50
$28 $32 $39
$24 $28 $35
$18 $22 $28
$14 $16 $22
Round 1 is conference quarterfinals, round 2 is conference semifinals,
round 3 is conference finals. Prices for Stanley Cup tickets (i.e.
"round 4") haven't been set.
Round 1 games are played 2/2/1/1/1 starting at the higher seeded team.
Pacific Division versus Midwest Division may be played as 2/3/2 to save
travel costs and time. This works out somehow to 11 theoretically
possible playoff games in the first three rounds, probably having
something to do with winning all our remaining games while Chicago,
Vancouver, etc. slump.
Season ticket holders can purchase one additional strip of 11 tickets
for each season ticket they currently hold (i.e. a holder of 2 season
tickets can purchase 4 playoff strips.) Additional strips will only be
fufilled after all sales to full-season and partial-season ticket
holders has been fufilled.
Season ticket holders have to have playoff orders in by March 28th.
Public sales dates for playoff tickets have not been announced. Season
ticket holders get no break on single ticket sales; they line up at the
Arena box office or call BASS just like everyone else.
--Brian Bechtel email@hidden "My opinion, not Apple's"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 19:11 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Playoff tickets
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 19:11:18 -0800 (PST)
Received the playoff ticket form today. Prices range from $16 to $75 per game,
i.e., $200 - $865 per 11-game strip (the only way the Sharks are selling them).
I won't post all the info unless asked, since everyone who is eligible should
get the letter too. One thing of note is that you can list first through
third choices for the kind of seats you want. (I take it that the full
season holders get to keep their seats? I'm a partial...)
Also, refunds for unplayed games can happen by check/credit card or by rolling
it over on next season's tickets; your choice.
My favorite sentence: "Should the Sharks advance to the second round, a
separate billing will be sent out for the Stanley Cup Finals."
Imagine reading something like that back in October. :-)
Derek
--
Derek LeLash, SrTechWriter/INFP|"I could tell you 'bout the nights when I was
BASYS Automation Systems, Inc. | lonely, and you were the only one who'd talk.
home: email@hidden | I could tell you that I like your sensitivity,
work: email@hidden| but you know it's the way that you walk." (EC)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 19:39 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 19:38:17 -0800
From: Frank Giraffe
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
the third round seems sorta bogus.
Well, at least we have such things to complain about! :-)
-Frank
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:17 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 1994 19:26:22 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:19 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 14:24:07 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:28 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 02:37:09 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:33 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 00:33:44 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:25 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 17:26:08 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
> The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
> resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
> the third round seems sorta bogus.
I'm just happy they didn't raise it more. After all, in 1987, after paying
$8 or $9 a game for the Giants, I had to pay $25 for the playoffs and
$40 for the World Series. Of course, I got the W.S. money back. :-(
Meanwhile,
> Season ticket holders can purchase one additional strip of 11 tickets
> for each season ticket they currently hold (i.e. a holder of 2 season
> tickets can purchase 4 playoff strips.)
Uh, which is it? (I don't have the letter with me here.) This seems like
a good chance for list members to share their ticket rights. If partial-
season or non-season friends want to buy strips of 11 for the playoffs,
I'm certainly willing to buy and resell extras.
The only possible hitch is that refunds would come to the original
purchaser. If I pay by credit card, I get a credit; if by check, they
send me a check. Therefore, the friend would pay the ticketholder for
the full 11 tickets, then would trust the ticketholder to pass along the
refund for unplayed games.
Hey, "unplayed games" isn't negativism; if we take all three series
in four or five games, we only use six home tickets, right? :-)
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:44 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 17:44:23 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: SWEEP!
Maybe the Ducks should take some tips from Tampa Bay, having gone
0 for California so far this year. (They finished 0-6 against the
Sharks and 0-4 (I think it's four, so far) against L.A. Tampa,
on the other hand, can't lose in California. Go figure.
David Pollack, of the M-N, said the suits were going to ban brooms
again today. Did anyone out there have actual experiences with that?
At least three of us, in 117, did bring whiskbrooms (no broomsticks)
without problems. I even dusted off our aisle's bluecoat (with a smile).
If we somehow get to be 3-0 in the playoffs, I certainly hope they
rethink their official broom policy!
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
| BUFFALO THE SABRES! HASSLE HASIK! |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:44 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: A request
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:42:44 -0800 (PST)
I will be posting a summary sometime today.
However, if anyone has an instant access to the box score right now, I would
appreciate it right now, before I finalize the summary. (AP sucks.)
Thanks.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 20:56 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 20:55:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: For AOL users
If you're an AOL user, I've got a bit of a favor to ask. I got tired of
listening to people whine about lack of coverage for their favorite trivia
sport in the Mercury Center, and so I posted a bit of a parody of them in
Ann Killion's folder (caffeine and late hours will do this to you. Kids,
this man is a writer, don't try this at home).
Anyway, just to make things even weirder, I'd like anyone who has an AOL
account who wants to help pimp the Merc a bit to PLEASE take a couple of minutes
to find the article and post a follow-up supporting it. I figure if we can
get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining about the lack of coverage
of the world championships for curling we can make the mercury news just
a bit crazy, no?
(we now return you to your regularly scheduled playoff hunt!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 21:23 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 21:24:11 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: For AOL users
> I figure if we can
> get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining about the lack of coverage
> of the world championships for curling ...
Hey, that would be rather interesting. I'm tired of seeing almost nothing
but basketall and football and baseball contract-signings.
Seriously Chuq, just a couple of years ago, we hockey fans were whining
about lack of coverage for our favorite trivia sport. We *still* want to
see more coverage of it (like some of the stuff they cut from last year).
When I'm in Britain, I'm glad to see tidbits on that weird American game,
baseball.
Personally, I think the M-N *should* pay attention to so-called trivia
sports (other than basketball).
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 00:09 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 00:07:03 -0800 (PST)
From: BEAT LA
Subject: splattered duck
Wow! I go to school in so-cal so I got to see the Sharks-Ducks game on
KCAL and, boy was that impressive. That was a mauling.
In any case, I didn't find out who the three stars were. My uneducated
guess is in no particular order: Sandis, Irbe, Markarov. Could someone post
the stars?
BTW, I'm going to be up in the Bay area for spring break. Could someone post
or e-mail me the home dates between March 11 and March 20.
Thanks
In teal and black we trust,
Chris Freud
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 00:27 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 00:25:29 -0800 (PST)
From: BEAT LA
Subject: Tix v. Senators 3-17
I need one. I'm going to be in the Bay Area for spring break next week and
would like to the home team against thge senators.
Phone: (909) 621-8555 x2390 (college)
E-mail: email@hidden
in teeal and black we trust,
Chris Freud
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:34 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:33:55 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: splattered duck
>In any case, I didn't find out who the three stars were. My uneducated
>guess is in no particular order: Sandis, Irbe, Markarov. Could someone post
>the stars?
Not bad: Irbe was third, Sandis 2nd, and Sergei first.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:39 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 11:36:28 EST
Subject: KC Blades
The Kansas City Blades are not very happy at the moment. They are not
thrilled at all with Flaherty being called up to San Jose for a couple of
weeks. They feel they need him in their hunt for a playoff spot.
Also Duane Joyce who was just back in the line up from a broken leg is out
for the season. Someone accidentally skated over his ankle during last weeks
Cinn. game and severed his achilles tendon. Joe Cleary is out with a
seperated shoulder.
This past weekends games were all decided by a shootout. Fridays game (score
escapes me) they lost to Milwaukee (Corwin Saurdiff in goal). Sat. they beat
Milwaukee 4-3 and Sunday they beat Vegas 2-1 (Flaherty in goal for both those
games).
Anyone out there a good cook? It seems just before Xmas Dody Wood asked a
member of the KC Blades fan club if he paid her would she cook a home cooked
dinner for him. The president of the fan club ended up taking a full course
(all the trimmings) turkey dinner to Dodys house for Dody, Nazarov, Cherbayev
and several other Blades players.
And I'm doing my part to promote the sport of Hockey. My cousin who tours
with the rock band "Meatloaf" had a free day in Kansas City Saturday. He
went to see the Blades play. This from a guy who never goes to sporting
events!
Rene
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:45 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:45:22 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Minor league salaries
>Chuq posted something on the giants list about the appallingly low pay for
>minor league baseball players (less than minimum wage, it would appear). Is
>the same true for hockey?
I don't believe it's so bad, but I don't have full numbers. I vaguely
remember that when Rathje signed his contract it was a two-way contract and
the number bandied about for the IHL side of things was in the 20K a year
range.
There are two big differences between minor league baseball and minor league
hockey. First, hockey doen't have the anti-trust exemption and so has a lot
less power to force players to do what they want them to, and second, if a
player doesn't like the deal, he can go play elsewhere, especially in
europe. Because of that, they have to be somewhat more competitive in
salaries than baseball, where the alternative is, oh, the Northern League,
or maybe Mexico.
Or flipping burgers at Wendys.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:48 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 08:46:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: For AOL users
chuq writes:
"...I figure if we can get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining
about the lack of coverage of the world championships for curling we
can make the mercury news just a bit crazy, no?"
Funny you should mention curling. At our regular Friday night practice
at the Ice Centre I was talking to one of the employees who mentioned
that there is a movement afoot to get some ice time for, you guessed it,
curling! If I find out more, I'll pass it on! They've already had a
short track speed skating event there; who knows what else might be
next.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:52 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:51:27 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: KC Blades
>The Kansas City Blades are not very happy at the moment. They are not
>thrilled at all with Flaherty being called up to San Jose for a couple of
>weeks. They feel they need him in their hunt for a playoff spot.
I'll bet. For those wondering what's going on, it was announced this morning
in the Merc that Jimmy Waite has a minor cartilage tear in one knee and is
going to get scoped. He thinks he tore it in the last Dallas start, and has
been working with it, and the decision is that he just can't wait.
He's expected to be out at least ten days. During that time, Flaherty will
be with San Jose.
That basically means that Kansas City will be going with Saurdiff and
probably Trevor Robbins until they get a goalie back. It'll be interesting
to see whether that's Flaherty or whether they send Waite down for some
rehab. I wouldn't bet against it.
Laurie picked up on the injury during pre-skate. Waite looked very stiff and
uncomfortable during the warmups, did almost no reaching and bending and
generally looked terrible. After warmups, he was basically pushed back to
the bench, since he seemed to be having trouble pushing off with his skates.
Ugh. This has NOT been a good year for Jimmy.
And I have to feel sorry for the Blades, this is bad timing to be forced to
survive with two goalies with little or no IHL experience, but the way life
is, if you have to sacrifice the run for the Stanley Cup or the Turner Cup,
you know which one loses.
>Also Duane Joyce who was just back in the line up from a broken leg is out
>for the season. Someone accidentally skated over his ankle during last weeks
>Cinn. game and severed his achilles tendon.
Ow! oh, god. What a horrid injury.
>Corwin Saurdiff in goal).
How did he look?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:53 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:51:22 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: Re: Radio changes
I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
is that all about? I can understand the A's may have paid more
money, but there's a relative importance factor involved, too.
(I know the game comes in reasonably well on 1550 and 1590, but it's
the principle of the thing - spring training, come on) And I also
see two potentially crucial games against the Kings will be dumped
for more spring training action. Harumph! The Sharks should take
their radio money (remember - the Sharks pay KFRC for the airtime,
not KFRC paying the Sharks) elsewhere. (Think KNEW is looking for
something to fill the A's spots? - heh heh)
Stanford basketball I can understand, as KFRC is their only
station. But if you really need to hear spring training action
on the radio as it happens, you're kind of weird.
Miffed,
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:00 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:58:29 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: waite's knee
Did you see the merc this morning. So Jimmy Waite needs knee surgery and it
can't be put off to the end of the season. So we're bringing up Wade.
Hmm....
very interesting.
==============================================================
Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:07 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:07:06 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
> I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
>important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
>TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
>is that all about?
Money. Ratings.
Let's be realistic. The Sharks generally get about 1/4 the ratings of the
Warriors. The Warriors ratings are TINY compared to the Giants and A's. You
can't blame the station for going with the program that has the largest
audience (especially when one team is set up already with a backup broadcast
system, and the other isn't).
>But if you really need to hear spring training action
>on the radio as it happens, you're kind of weird.
Then I'm weird. This is the time of year where great conflicts roil through
my head, as I wish I could carry a Walkman into the Arena and pick up
KNBR.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:08 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:08:05 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Re: waite's knee
Speaking as someone who skated on a bad knee and is now paying for it, I'd
say that it's the right decision to get the knee done *now*. It's no fun
wondering when the chunks floating in your knee are going to rub against the
wrong thing and send those icepick stabbing pains through your body.
You don't know what's going to irritate the knee--I've done a move the
hundredth time and that last one is the one that causes the problem. And
once you've irritated it, the swelling and stiffness takes time to go away.
Considering Waite has also sprained that knee this year, it's probably time
to take a look inside and see what else needs to be cleaned up.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:14 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:12:28 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Sunday; A Great Day For Hockey!
Well, it's over, and Sunday turned out to be a great day for hockey!
We arrived at the Epicentre at 11:15 and stood around in the parking
lot waiting to see the players. My son managed to get autographs
from Kroupa, Odgers, Whitney, Pederson, Lationov, More, Norton, and
Sykora, but Makarov refused to sign anything (he told everyone to wait
'til after the game). At 12:00 a rep from the Sharks met us at the
side door by the ticket office and escorted us down to a locker room
next door to the Ducks' room. We were told that we'd be skating during
the second intermission, and that the kids would need to be dressed,
except for helmets, gloves, and skates while waiting in our seats. We
were told that it is forbidden to talk to the Ducks, or to make noise
as we walked past their locker room. The Sharks don't want any kids
accidentally insulting a duck, especially if they're losing (no "quack
quack" noises!)!
After getting dressed, we went up to our seats to enjoy the game, and
it was a game to enjoy! The Sharks played like they really wanted to
win. Even Falloon was finding his way into the corners, especially
after he got his wake-up call! We needed to be by the elevator behind
Section 113 when the clock showed 13:00 in the second period, so we
missed most of the second period, although we did watch the action on
the monitor in the locker room. After getting the kids into their skates
and helmets, we were led past the Ducks' locker room into the tunnel by
the ice. We waited patiently (yeah!) for the end of the period and our
4 minutes of the big time. As the Ducks exited the ice after the second
period, they were extremely sullen and dejected. They looked like
prisoners on their way to the gallows...every one of them was intently
studying the floor about 2 feet in front of their feet; not a glance
at the kids as they passed less than 2 feet away. It was quite a sight.
Then the kids took the ice amid cheers from the crowd. A quick skate to
center ice and the puck was dropped. Santa Clara dominated the play for
the entire time with excellent defence, Santa Rosa was prevented from
getting a single shot on goal, while our offense was able to get 2 shots
on the Santa Rosa goalie, who came up big both times. A great time was
had by all, and the kids on both teams agreed that the 4 minutes was the
fastest four minutes they've ever experienced.
After their skate, it was back to the locker room to change, and upstairs
for the third period. It was great experience for all of us, and we all
hope that the crowd enjoyed it as much as we did!
And, finally, after the game, we jumped in the truck and raced up to
Fremont, where our older son had a game against the Midget team from
Tri-Valley (Dublin area); we beat them 1-0, so it was a great day for
hockey: 6-0, 0-0, and 1-0, all in one day!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:38:56 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Sunday; A Great Day For Hockey!
>The Sharks don't want any kids
>accidentally insulting a duck, especially if they're losing (no "quack
>quack" noises!)!
Emilio Estevez wouldn't have taken that sitting down!
Good game by the kids, by the way. Fun stuff.
>As the Ducks exited the ice after the second
>period, they were extremely sullen and dejected. They looked like
>prisoners on their way to the gallows...every one of them was intently
>studying the floor about 2 feet in front of their feet;
You know, I expected SOMETHING from the Ducks. Even ignoring the playoff run
they're trying to make, they should have been playing for something, even if
it was just pride. They came out skating back on their heels, no real
intensity, no emotion, skating from the opening minute like they were trying
not to win, but to not-lose.
They really looked like they psyched themselves out and considered
themselves beaten before they ever got on the ice, and then went out and
proved it. As soon as the first goal got scored, they collapsed and more or
less phoned in the rest of the game. It could have been 10-0, but Falloon
and Elik were both snakebit most of the game, and after it was about 3-0,
the Sharks were hanging back and practicing their passing, giving up
offensive opportunities and waiting for that one perfect shot (which is one
reason why the shot counts are so irrelevant to what went on on the ice this
time).
The Ducks played, from about 10 minutes in the first, like all they really
wanted to do was skate out the clock and get out of there. Great game by the
Sharks, but I was hoping for something more from the Ducks. They didn't look
good, and frankly didn't try very hard.
Look at it this way: do you honestly think, if we were down 6-0, that Zmolek
and Cronin and Odgers would have just skated around and not attempted to
leave a few bruises? There was the one 'fight' between Cronin and a Duck
(Loney? I don't remember) where Cronin basically turned his back and forced
the guy to grabble (Cronin's face was up against the glass near us, and you
could clearly see him say something like "Oh, c'mon, quit screwing around"),
and the Zmolek thing late, but it was an amazingly low-self-respect day
for the Ducks. You could clearly tell which team felt they deserved to be
in the playoffs, and it wasn't the guys in Eggplant and Forest Green.
Quack quack. The Panthers are starting to fade, as some of us felt they
would. The Ducks, I think, realize they're beaten. I wouldn't be surprised
to see THEM fade (and frankly, I think if they thought they had a real shot
at the playoffs, they wouldn't have sent off Tugnutt). Any thought the
Oilers had of making a run died when we beat them and they proceeded down
to Anaheim to lose AGAIN.
Which leaves the Kings. They aren't exactly making a run for it, but I
certainly won't take them lightly.
The only downside I see: our recent slump has pretty much guaranteed we
aren't going to catch the 6th of 7th seed, which means we better be ready to
play Detroit in the first round, and frankly, I don't think we'll come out
of that alive. But, hell, how many of us figured we'd need to budget for
playoff tickets last October, much less multiple rounds?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:29 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:27:44 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
> From email@hidden Sat Mar 5 19:57 PST 1994
> The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
> resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
> the third round seems sorta bogus.
> Well, at least we have such things to complain about! :-)
Their price increases are pretty reasonable compared to what some Penguin`s
fans complained about on rec.sport.hockey a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly
surprised. If the Sharks actually make round 3, I'll consider the
the jump from $18 regular to $28 worth the experience ... but realistically,
we won't be spending a nickel for round 3.
-mre
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:36 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:34:54 -0800
From: email@hidden (Brian Bechtel)
Subject: For sale: 2 tickets for 3/8 against Buffalo
These are in section 211, row 10, seats 13-14. This is in the corner where
the Sharks attack twice. Please contact Robin, not me. I believe these
are $24 dollar seats.
2 tickets available
3/8 vs Buffalo
Work 408 974-7907
Home 408 492-9714
Robin Hurwitz
--Brian Bechtel email@hidden "My opinion, not Apple's"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:40 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:39:50 -0800
From: email@hidden (Peter Jacobs)
Subject: Re: KLIV and KKHI radio
Isn't it fascinating how KFRC has decided to pre-empt the Sharks while they're
on a playoff run in favor of exhibition baseball games??
Makes me wonder about who's in charge of their programming department!
PJ
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:46 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:43 PST
From: email@hidden (Michael A. Shantzis)
Subject: Playoffs on TV
Does anyone out there know what all the Sharks TV channels have planned for
the playoffs? In particular, if our Sharks make it in, can we expect all
the games to be broadcast, just like all other major sports playoffs?
Michael Shantzis
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:30 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 11:28:31 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: message to Keith, Re Autographs
This is for Keith: I tried replying to your message but got a
bounce:
550 swdc.stratus.com (tcp)... 550 Host unknown
554 ... 550 Host unknown (Valid name but no A or MX)
Anyway, you asked:
"Sounds like you and the kids had a great day! My son would go
nuts being able to get autographs from players. Would you mind
telling me where abouts the player entrance is? Is 11:30 a
good time to get there? Any info would be greatly appreciated!"
No problem! The players park in the lot behind the Epicentre (the
$10 lot) and enter the building from that lot through the entrance
closest to Santa Clara St. For yesterday's game, which started at
2:00 they started showing up about 11:15. Most of them are quite
friendly and are willing to sign stuff, except for Makarov. He was
friendly enough, but refused to sign anything. He said he'd be happy
to sign stuff after the game, but other people there sais that he's
hard to find after a game.
I think they have a reporting time, because the later it got, the more
of a hurry they seemed to be in. But they still took time to sign stuff.
Godd luck!
Alan Hepburn
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:37 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:37:53 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: SWEEP!
>Maybe the Ducks should take some tips from Tampa Bay, having gone
>0 for California so far this year. (They finished 0-6 against the
>Sharks and 0-4 (I think it's four, so far) against L.A. Tampa,
>on the other hand, can't lose in California. Go figure.
>
>David Pollack, of the M-N, said the suits were going to ban brooms
>again today. Did anyone out there have actual experiences with that?
>
>At least three of us, in 117, did bring whiskbrooms (no broomsticks)
>without problems. I even dusted off our aisle's bluecoat (with a smile).
>If we somehow get to be 3-0 in the playoffs, I certainly hope they
>rethink their official broom policy!
Brooms are annoying! Last thing I need as Makarov is putting on a clinic
on how to skate/pass/shoot/score is some idiot waving a broom in my face.
Sorry to those with common sense, but some of your fellow human beings who
are lacking in it would just wave the damn things all game long!
On the other hand, if you could use it to beat down vendors, idiot fans,
and stupid mascots... :-)
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:45 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:42:59 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: What a game!
I managed to see the news highlights of the Ducks game (after
listening on the radio) and it was incredible. Every goal they
showed was a result of someone either camped out on the far side
of the crease or someone charging in to receive a pass in the slot.
(Or both, even!) I wouldn't give up on the search to find a big
dominating center yet, but it's definitely a start. It's been a
long time since the highlights from a Sharks game made me laugh
with glee. We *own* the Ducks!
I realize that Vancouver's been having a rough stretch, but
the common phrase during yesterday's broadcast of "the last regular
season meeting between these two teams" seemed a bit far fetched.
There didn't seem to be too much fanfare about Arturs' shutout,
aside from pointing out it was the first time the Sharks shut out
one opponent twice in a season. Perhaps it was just because that
wasn't the real story. The offensive play was much larger than
even Irbe. Five of six goals coming from one line. Three goals
each on two goalies. A goalie yanked after one period. Total
offensive domination by the Sharks.
This was probably the first game where the Sharks offense truly
overshadowed the defense. It seemed like the Ducks never even
had a scoring chance, except for when they were handed one on a
silver platter. I think it's a great sign for the stretch that
the offense is the main story of the game. If we can manage to
have the offense shine without the defense having momentary wobbles,
we're all set. Not that a shutout is a sign of bad defense :)
the "Muscular Waterfowl" my foot!
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:55 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 14:51:58 EST
Subject: Sykora?
Your son got an autograph from Sykora? Didn't know he had been called up.
Humm. Anyone have anything on this?
Rene - Blueline Fan #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR) - Go Blades
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:55 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:54:19 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: What a game!
> There didn't seem to be too much fanfare about Arturs' shutout,
>aside from pointing out it was the first time the Sharks shut out
>one opponent twice in a season.
Not to belittle Artur's performance one bit, but he could have gone out for
a cup of coffee and still gotten the shutout. I think I counted maybe six or
seven GOOD shots all game. Almost everything that WAS a shot was a weak
no-brainer grab, or right into the pads. Routine stuff. I'll bet he was
getting bored after a while ("hey, guys! give them a breakaway! I'm bored!")
The Ducks, frankly, looked, um, just like the Sharks last year. You're
supposed to shoot around the goalie, guys, not at him.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:16 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:14:44 -0800 (PST)
From: a Shark in Duck-infested waters
Subject: "Like Freight Train"?
Great game on Sunday. Down in so-cal we don't get to see much Sharks
games but this one was a beauty. Great passing, good forechecking, the
Sharks really took advantage of the sorry state that the Ducks' defense
was in Sunday. I loved it when Garpenlov scored the third goal; Hebert
whirled around and looked very dejected! The score could have been even
more lopsided if the Ducks' backup goalie Shtalenkov (sp?) hadn't made
some awesome saves.
One thing that did catch my eye was a sign that said "Sergei Makarov
Like Freight Train. Whoo! Whoo!" Great sign! I don't think that
analogy quite works, even though Makarov was like a freight train on the
first goal. How about Sergei Makarov - Fly like butterfly, sting like
bee? :) :)
One last question, it was mentioned during the game that Rathje and
Butsayev were scratched. Were these due to injuries or coach's
decision? I'm hoping that Butsayev will get more ice time in the future
and that Kroupa will stay with the Sharks for the rest of the season.
PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!!
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________| \____________| \_____________| \________________| \________
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Loren Taylor
"a Shark in Duck-infested waters" Physics rules at:
(email@hidden) University of California, Irvine!!
Go Sharks!! Go Arturs Irbe! Sergei Makarov rules!!
Go Kings!! HRUUUUUUUUUUDEY!! May the Great One play 4ever!
Go Flames!! Go Joe Nieuwendyk!!
Professor A. A. Maradudin-ism:
"Oh my friend, how could you be SO wrong!"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:25 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:20:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Rees
Subject: Cal Train
I thought someone here said a 2nd train had
been added after the games, and that is was
express to Palo Alto. I just talked to
CalTrain and they denied it. Do any of
you know what's going on with the train
after games? I quit using it because it
takes too long to get back to SF.
-Rick
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:27 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:23:07 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: For AOL users
Reply to: RE>>For AOL users
Alan Hepburn sez:
>Funny you should mention curling.
Yup. And four years from now in Nagano, curling will become an Olympic event.
I think it may have been an exhibition event sometime in the distant past, but
this time it will be a full-fledged event on equal footing with the
aforementioned short track speedskating!
I can just see it now, "The American bobsled teams are unloading their
umpteen-thousand dollar computer-designed titanium sleds, and...what's that?
Oh, the American curling team is unloading their brooms, which they purchased
at K-Mart." "Yes, Bob, but those are the new aluminum-handled O-Cedar brooms
that just became available last week. The Americans have obviously spared no
expense in their hunt for CURLING GOLD!" ;-)
By the way, the Murky News also does not cover Aussie Rules Football, either
(1/2 ;-) And the coverage of foreign soccer leagues (and, for that matter, the
IHL) is sporadic at best. It seems to be on a
we-had-a-little-extra-space-because-we-didn't-sell-enough-ads-today basis. Not
the best reason to publish or not publish league standing that some people
really care about.
I'd almost prefer they never published them, or only published them at the end
of the leagues' respective seasons. Standings that are shown once and then not
shown for weeks on end are almost totally worthless. Particularly since
sometimes the Murky News publishes not just the standings but the previous
day's (or weekend's) scores! Are there that many people around who are
thinking, "I don't care about Arsenal's last five games, but damn I wish I knew
the final score of their game against Manchester United yesterday!" ???
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:38 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 11:10:50 U
From: "Mike Wallis"
Subject: Sharks mailing list
Sharks mailing list
As BEAT LA requested, here are the Sharks home dates from March 10 to March
20:
Thurs., 3/10: vs. NYI @ 7:30
Thurs., 3/17: vs. OTT @ 7:30
Sun., 3/20: vs. LA KINGS @ 2:00
(The Sharks are away on Sat., 3/12 vs CAL, and Sat., 3/19 vs LA KINGS.)
-Mike
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 12:35:59 PST
From: email@hidden (James Nakamura)
Subject: NEED TICKETS FOR 3/31
Hi all,
I'm looking for two tickets to the Sharks/Leafs game on Thursday, March 31st.
My best friend is coming up from LA and has yet to attend a hockey game live.
The poor guy has to endure the trials of rooting for an expansion team and I'd
like him to see playoff caliber hockey :-). Any location is fine.
A few other quick questions:
Being new to the sport myself, what is the explanation for the starting goalie
being the first on the ice? (Leading the team into battle???)
Also, at the end of the pre-game skate, the last two on the ice for the Sharks
are always Falloon and Odgers. Any good explanation for this?
Finally, I'm looking into actually trying the game out for myself. I got the
brochure from Ice Hockey International and that looks pretty good, are there
others with good beginner adult programs? Also, is this a good league to start
out with? What are the good and bad points? Any advice would be great.
naka
email@hidden
415-691-0326 x280
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:45 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:40:57 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Radio changes
Reply to: RE>> Radio changes
Tom Cronin sez:
>I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
>important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
>TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
>is that all about?
Well, I think it's about two things, and money, while definitely an indirect
factor, is not be one of them.
First, I believe that KFRC already had a contract with the A's before the
Sharks became available. The A's contract may very well specify that KFRC
**MUST** carry all A's games, even exhibition games. I'm not sure that this is
the case, but the A's and Giants both probably bring enough revenue and
prestige to a radio station to force them to do it.
The other reason is the circumstances and timing that caused the Sharks to go
with KFRC in the first place. Due to an ownership change/change in direction,
KNEW dumped the Sharks shortly before the season started. With time running
out (almost all of the preseason games had already taken place), the Sharks
made the best deal they could with the most powerful station they could. Given
that most major stations (including KFRC) had already scheduled their sports
programming for the year, I think the Sharks were lucky to do as well as they
did, even given the pre-emptions.
For the 1994-5 season, the Sharks have time to negotiate a better deal, and
hopefully they can arrange a deal for the full schedule with no pre-emptions
allowed.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:50 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:49:36 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: "Like Freight Train"?
> One thing that did catch my eye was a sign that said "Sergei Makarov
>Like Freight Train. Whoo! Whoo!" Great sign! I don't think that
Definitely. I loved it. Some of the signs showing up this year have been
absolute classics.
> One last question, it was mentioned during the game that Rathje and
>Butsayev were scratched. Were these due to injuries or coach's
>decision? I'm hoping that Butsayev will get more ice time in the future
>and that Kroupa will stay with the Sharks for the rest of the season.
Kroupa won't be going anywhere. He seems to be doing a good job at the NHL
level, and I don't think sending him back to KC does him any good now.
Rathje's got a knee-ligament strain. He's officially day to day, but in a
kid that size, you don't take those joints for granted (ask Eric Lindros).
Butsayev is a coaches decision. He hasn't exactly put the wrath of god into
the opponents since coming over from the Flyers, and so he hasn't been
playing. Baker's been making a much better contribution recently. I just
think it's taking Butsayev some time to find his way into Constantine's
system (and, before people take this as a criticism, we were saying the same
thing of Elik the first couple of weeks he was here). Beyond that, I think
Butsayev is being viewed more as a project than a prospect, so I'm not
expecting immediate impact from him (if he was an immediate impact, he
wouldn't have come to us for Zettler). He was tried for a few games, looked
a little lost, and so the Sharks are going with what's working, which is
Baker. He'll be back.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:54 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:54:07 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: NEED TICKETS FOR 3/31
>Being new to the sport myself, what is the explanation for the starting goalie
>being the first on the ice? (Leading the team into battle???)
Tradition? You want to tell him he can't go first?
>Also, at the end of the pre-game skate, the last two on the ice for the Sharks
>are always Falloon and Odgers. Any good explanation for this?
I think this was a work-ethic thing that grew into a tradition. When Falloon
was struggling, he was spending a LOT of time on the ice trying to find his
shot. Now that he has it, he's not changing anything, lest he screw it up
again. Odgers has always been one of the last off the ice, and tends to
spend a chunk of time tossing setup passes to Patty to help him work.
In Odgers' case, I think what you're seeing is a guy who odesn't have the
best talent in the world making up for it with guts and hustle (and not
incidentally, leading by example), while with Falloon, you've got a kid WITH
all the talent who's putting in the time to make sure that talent comes to
fruition.
They spend the time because that's what it takes for them to succeed.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:57 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:56:37 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
>First, I believe that KFRC already had a contract with the A's before the
>Sharks became available.
This is not true. The A's were signed with KNEW, but both sides agreed to
release the contract and the A's moved over.
>For the 1994-5 season, the Sharks have time to negotiate a better deal, and
>hopefully they can arrange a deal for the full schedule with no pre-emptions
>allowed.
It depends entirely on their audience. If the other sports have more
listeners, the Sharks don't have much of a negotiating position. I don't
know the arbs for Stanford, but of the pro sports, the Sharks are still by
far the smallest audience.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:34:37 PST
Subject: Re: Radio changes
On 7 Mar 94, you wrote (Subject: Re: Radio changes):
> I can understand the A's may have paid more
...
> The Sharks should take
> their radio money (remember - the Sharks pay KFRC for the airtime,
> not KFRC paying the Sharks) elsewhere.
Since when do teams pay for radio coverage? Broadcast rights for sports are a
big money business. This can't be right.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:14 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 94 13:09:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: Blind Officials
Notice to the humor imparied: This is NOT a serious posting.
If you think Shick was turning a blind eye to some things that
were going on yesterday, the official who was out between the 2nd
and 3rd periods was even worse. By the end of the 4 minute scrimmage,
the kids figured out that the guy wasn't going to call penalties, and
they spent the last minute tripping each other. It's good to see that the
kids know rule #1 of hockey: If you think you can get away with it, then
it can't be illegal. :-)
Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good. Was there
some question about interference with the goalie? There was certainly
no doubt that the puck was in the net, and there was no stoppage of play
before that, so it had to be a procedural issue. Anyone know what went
on there?
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:17 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:10 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: who goes on first?
Chuq has the right circumstance, but it's an exmaple of the neurosis/phobic
rule of who goes where in the line-up. All things being equal, this is the
order of decision:
1. Starting goaltender--if you break his luck, you might as well hang it up.
2. Leading scorer
3. Other scorers
4. Big defence guy with numeric ranking problem
5. Phobic power-play specialist
6. 20 year veteran who's hanging on for one more year with the team
Okay, well not quite.... :-)
If a player has a "thing" about being in a specific place in line, it will
tend to be honoured. I think this batch of goalies like to be the leader
onto the ice. There have been ones who haven't broken with their placement
in the line no matter what was going on.
Teams will tend to line up in a particular fashion after the various tweaks
have been worked out--except for "pimp the rookie" night. That's when you
let the rookie lead onto the ice, and the rest of the team stays back. The
poor guy ends up skating around and dying, waiting for the rest of the team
to show.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:44 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:41:03 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: Playoffs on TV
I'm pretty sure KICU-36 has exclusive rights to the playoffs, at least
this is what I recalled from the first season.
> From email@hidden Mon Mar 7 12:51 PST 1994
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:43 PST
> From: email@hidden (Michael A. Shantzis)
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Playoffs on TV
>
> Does anyone out there know what all the Sharks TV channels have planned for
> the playoffs? In particular, if our Sharks make it in, can we expect all
> the games to be broadcast, just like all other major sports playoffs?
>
> Michael Shantzis
> email@hidden
>
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:44 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:42:58 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: mid-season report update
It's been two months since I posted my mid-season report on the Sharks. I
was curious to see how things had changed, so.....
>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 94 12:50:31 PST
>From: Chuq Von Rospach
>Subject: sharks mid-season report
>This message is part 1: On Ice
>Overall Grade: B.
Make that an A-. Despite some recent slump problems, they've already matched
the 60 points I said in October would be considered a successful season, and
they have 18 games to play. They're not only in the playoff hunt, but it's
theirs to lose, and all indications are they have no intention of doing so.
While there are occasional lapses, EVERY team has those. I can't complain,
even if they lose one to the Senators. Ottawa has to beat someone sometime,
no?
>Arturs Irbe: A-.
Make than an A. His stickwork still needs improvment, but he's better at
leaving the crease, and frankly, he's held up under a heavier playing load
than anyone could expect. A couple of tired losses, but he's figured out
where his second wind is and bounced back pretty strong. We live or die on
his back, and so far, we're living pretty well.
>Gaetan Duschesne: A-
Ditto, now an A. The more I watch, the more I respect.
>Dale Craigwell: B+
Downgrade to a B. He's hustling, but being squeezed out of the lineup
because of a combination of his lack of size and Elik's strong face-off
work. Nothing he can't solve by growing four inches, but he's being turned
into a special teams player. His work against Lindros and Gretzky is amazing
to watch, but only as long as he doesn't get into situations where his lack
of size and strength kill him (which Lindros did once in the last Philly
game down in the crease).
>Jeff Norton: B.
A-. I hope he stays healthy.
>Todd Elik: B
B+. thank you, Mr. Sather.
>Igor Larionov: B-
A-. Fragility still a bit of an issue, but he's so fun to watch.
>Who's not:
>Rob Gaudreau: D----
Upgraded to a C-. He's till not scoring, but his defensive side and hustle
makes up for some of it. His long-term future with the Sharks has to be in
question, though, unless he figures out where the net is and why he can't
hit it with a truck. He won't last as a checking-line forward, and these
days, that's what he is.
>Jimmy Waite: D
F. He just hasn't done it this year. The knee injury is the final disaster
on a year everyone will likely want to forget.
>Pat Falloon: D
B. He found his scoring stroke and has been contributing all over the ice.
Can now be legitimately considered a two-way player. Has improved from being
a -25 player to a -3 player in one season, which is frankly rather awesome.
I think we're finally seeing the real Falloon, and I like what I see.
>Jamie Baker: C
B-. Has impressed me more the last few weeks, really hustles and is willing
to risk injury to block shots. He's still fighting for the fourht line
center slot, though, with Butsayev and Craigwell. Sooner or later, Butsayeve
should win the fight.
>Mike Lalor: C
C-. Just hasn't impressed me all year. Best that can be said for him is
'solid', and he's not that as consistently as I'd like.
>Ray Whitney: B
B-/C+. Probably overstated the rating the first time, anyway. Solid, not
playing badly, but the real Whitney is still being looked for.
>Sergei Makarov: B-
A. How could I have ever doubted? forgive me. Whoo whoo, comin' through!
And to add some names I didn't cover first time:
Johan Garpenlov: B+. Started out a little unsure of himself, and has turned
himself into a strong part of our top line. He may not score as many goals
as his mates, but he's unselfish in setting them up, and HE'S the guy
wandering down into the crease and mucking out the corners, and I swear to
god I never expected to say that was even possible. Garpenlov has figured
out how to be a physical player, and is a good defensive forward, and could
score a LOT more if he simply wasn't surrounded by godlike deities. Someone
who really came into his own this year, probably the most improved player
after Falloon.
Sandis Ozolinsh: A. Another weak start as he tried to figure out whether his
leg could handle it, and once he realized he wasn't going to die, turned it
on. Been on fire since the All-star game, and at this rate, will finish the
season as the top-scoring defenseman in the LEAGUE. While still being at
best a minimal defensive liability (unlike Paul Coffey). Wow.
Tom Pederson: B+. I keep expecting his size to get him in trouble. He keeps
proving me wrong. Bite 'em in the knee, Tommy!
Mike Rathje: B/Inc: an incomplete but worth a mention. Struggled early,
picked up his game, figured out the angles for the MUCH faster NHL game, and
has become a strong, quiet, positive force for the Sharks. Also, much to my
surprise, is slowly becoming a two-way force and has a deceptively nice slap
shot. And here I thought we had a pure defensive-defenseman who knows how to
play "rock" in the crease. He'll never make us forget Sandis, but I think
he's going to surprise us a lot in the next year or so.
>Time for the mid-season report, part 2. Off-Ice.
>In general, I'm going to give the Sharks as a franchise a B
Still qualifies. They're receptive to feedback, open to suggestion, but not
without rough edges. We recently moved, and it took two requests to get our
season ticket address changed, and in both of them, we requested SOME
confirmation from them that it'd happened, and got silence both times. Still
not following through on the little things in the rep department. ohwell.
>Dean Lombardi: A
Maybe A+. His shenanigans with Kroupa now show his genius. Wow. Butsayev is
a somewhat risky deal, but we've lived okay without Zettler, and he has some
interesting upside. What I'm seeing with Koslov has me nervous, but I trust
him to work it out.
>Kevin Constantine: A
Let's buy him a case of gum for the playoffs. He'll need it.
>Dan Rusanowsky, B+.
>Randy Hahn, D.
>Pete Stemkowski, F.
>Chris Collins, C-
>Radio: B-
>TV: C
No changes.
>Part 3, a mid-season look at the San Jose Arena.
>Overall: B+
I'd probably upgrade that to A-. They're learning, they're tweaking, they're
fixing. (most importantly, they're responding).
>SJ Sharkie: B
They've loosened up on Sharkie somewhat. The popcorn trick's been back a few
times, and they don't seem to be as careful. That's good. The Ravioli's meal
bit gets old fast, but if you'd been able to see Shtalenkov's FACE when
Sharkie walked past him during the time out... If it causes the goalie to
lose his concentration a bit, I'm for it. The Duck's goalie was just weirded
out by the guy. heh.
>Air Shark: C
Make it a B-. They've worked out most of the logistical problems (stuff not
dropping, etc). It's cute. It's harmless. It isn't plastered with advertiser
billboards. I can live with it.
>Promotions: B
And other half-time stuff. Who would have ever thought a couple of gymnasts
would have gotten a standing ovation at a hockey game? And earned it! They
still do some lame stuff, but they take chances, try unusual stuff, and hit
enough homers that the strikeouts don't bother me. (the piano juggler was
another real winner). give them an A-.
>Scoreboard: C-
I'll upgrade this to a C+ for better graphics, more, better statistics and
general tweaking to try to make it more useful and interesting. The basic
problem, visibility issues with the 'Tron, remain. Generally, the graphics
are pretty good, and the ones that don't seem to work well disappear again,
so they aren't afraid to tweak the production.
>Audio: D
Maybe C- now. Where we are, most of the sound isn't so bad, but a little
loud for my tastes. Video clip audio is very garbled, but other stuff is
okay. Generally, they seem to have tweaked it as well as the current system
can be tweaked.
>Organ: C.
>Music: D
Significant changes have gone down here. a LOT less canned music, a LOT more
Dieter. Instead of stomping on the crowd, they're now working with it to
help create noise. Dieter evidently has a lot more flexibility in what he
can play (and someone must have given him "100 favorite Disney hits" for the
Ducks game. heh). They've really fixed this. I'm happy. So happy I won't
even mention taht the "da da sucks" is still missing, because as far as I'm
concerned, at this point we don't need it. A- for Dieter, B- for music.
It sounds like they've worked on his instruments, too. More, better patches,
they've kicked up the bass, the organ now sounds like an organ, and he
generally sounds like he's kicking back and having a lot of fun. It's not so
orchestrated-sounding (although I'm sure a lot of it still is).
Dieter does a pretty good Toccatta Fugue, too.
>Overall show: D
Overall show: B. There are still glitches and gripes, but they're minor
things in my mind, or differences of opinion between myself and the
production staff. Nothing I can stand up and point at and say "this sucks"
any more, so I should shut up and thank them for not being afraid to change
things. And so I will. Thanks.
>And we have the most boring post-goal-scoring setup ever.
And I've heard somewhere that Jamison is looking into getting something
better. Boy, I could root for a team that didn't care or wasn't
responsive, but it wouldn't be nearly as interesting....
Overall, I'm even happier now than I was in January, both with the kids on
the ice and everyone else. Can't argue with that.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:47 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:45:17 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
>> The Sharks should take
>> their radio money (remember - the Sharks pay KFRC for the airtime,
>> not KFRC paying the Sharks) elsewhere.
>Since when do teams pay for radio coverage? Broadcast rights for sports are a
>big money business. This can't be right.
Nope. True. (also true for the Giants, and possibly for the Warriors and
A's). What they do is buy the airtime, do their own production and sell
their own advertising, rather than depend on the station to do it for them.
The Giants used to have KNBR do it, and that's one thing that led to
Greenwald's exile.
These days, when you have a radio feed, plus at least two TV feeds
(broadcast and cable), you almost have to have a team-central broadcast
production to keep things straight.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:49 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:47:10 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Blind Officials
> Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
>first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good.
>From the handwaving, Hebert was claiming that Makarov was in the crease
before the puck. The replay showed that it wasn't even close.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 14:08 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:07:37 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: who goes on first?
>If a player has a "thing" about being in a specific place in line, it will
>tend to be honoured.
Let me toss in a quick plug for Ken Dryden's book HOME GAME. He talks about
this, among other things. It's an absolutely riveting, fascinating work
that'll really get you into the heads of the players and the hockey mindset.
Copies are definitely avilable at Barnes & Noble in San Jose, so it is
easily gettable, and one of the better hockey books I've read.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 14:21 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: 7 Mar 94 12:21:00 -0800
Subject: Sunny Day Tickets Needed
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Howdy Shark Fans,
I'm looking for Ticket to the Kings game on Sunday March 20.
Anyone out their going to be out of town, or have something better
to do on a beautiful March Sunday?
I sure would like to sit up there in the nose bleed, rowdy, sections
of 208 & 209 at least one time this year. Fans in Section 213
(my normal section) are quite timid for hockey fans.
Get back to me when you can.
Thanks,
Dan M
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 15:02 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 14:59:40 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Blind Officials
It's been noted:
"> Notice to the humor imparied: This is NOT a serious posting.
>
> If you think Shick was turning a blind eye to some things that
>were going on yesterday, the official who was out between the 2nd
>and 3rd periods was even worse. By the end of the 4 minute scrimmage,
>the kids figured out that the guy wasn't going to call penalties, and
>they spent the last minute tripping each other. It's good to see that the
>kids know rule #1 of hockey: If you think you can get away with it, then
>it can't be illegal. :-)
It was certainly humorous to have the ref physically look up at the rafters
when there was some tripping involved..."
Our pre-game briefing from both the Sharks' rep, and the ref (who skates
for SJSU, by the way; I forget his name) went like this:
SHARKS: We'll be using a running clock, so there won't be any penalties...
KIDS: What if we get tripped?
SHARKS: There won't be any penalties...
KIDS: What if someone hauls us down on a breakaway? Do we get a penalty shot?
SHARKS: (agitated) There won't be any penalties...
KIDS: What if we gat checked?
SHARKS: THERE WON'T BE ANY PENALTIES!!!
KIDS: (sotto voce) ohhhhhhh!
It didn't take them too long to figure it out! Actually, that's pretty
much how the games go at this level. The officials keep a pretty tight
rein on them early in the season, but by now (we're 2 weeks away from
our playoffs) the kids pretty much know how far they can push each ref,
and constantly push that limit! Of the Santa Clara skaters you saw yesterday,
3 of them are moving up to the pee-wee level next year, and checking is
allowed at that level, so these guys are anxiously awaiting next season!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 15:16 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 15:07:52 PDT
From: (Philip Jeuck)
Subject: Re: Radio Changes
>Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:51:22 -0800
>From: Tom Cronin
>Subject: Re: Radio changes
>
> I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
>important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
>TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
>is that all about? I can understand the A's may have paid more
>money, but there's a relative importance factor involved, too.
>(I know the game comes in reasonably well on 1550 and 1590, but it's
>the principle of the thing - spring training, come on)
But they don't come in well. In Menlo Park, I can barely receive 1590 and
1550 is dead. Fortunately I go to most of the home games but are all the
away games that are left left on TV? A friend who lives in La Honda
receives neither station even though he's a Ham and has a rather large HF
antenna. So these radio switches are not just an irritation but its
costing fans.
> Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 15:50 PST 1994
From: Keith Wandry
Subject: NHL Player of the Week: Makarov
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:47:58 -13165615 (PST)
Just heard on the radio that Makarov is the NHL player of
the week...
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 16:14 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Minor league salaries (fwd)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:12:19 -0800 (PST)
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
> >Chuq posted something on the giants list about the appallingly low pay for
> >minor league baseball players (less than minimum wage, it would appear). Is
> >the same true for hockey?
>
> I don't believe it's so bad, but I don't have full numbers. I vaguely
> remember that when Rathje signed his contract it was a two-way contract and
> the number bandied about for the IHL side of things was in the 20K a year
> range.
On the other hand, Rathje was the #3 pick overall, so he has more leverage
than most minor leaguers. I wouldn't expect things to be quite as rosy for
the other guys...
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 16:26 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 15:50:00 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Player Of The Week
Subject: Time:3:47 PM
OFFICE MEMO Player Of The Week Date:3/7/94
KCBS is reporting that the NHL's Player Of The Week, having led his team to a
2-0 record with 4 goals and 3 assists (or was that reversed) is...Sergei
Makarov!
That's the first time a Shark player has won the PoW award outright, although
Arturs was co-winner a couple months back. Way to go Sergei!!!
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 16:48 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: Sign for Thursday
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:44:43 -0800 (PST)
Sign for Thursday's game:
WE CAN CURE KASPARITIS IN OUR LIFETIME
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 16:50 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:48:29 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: What a game!
> From: Chuq Von Rospach
> Not to belittle Artur's performance one bit, but he could have gone out for
> a cup of coffee and still gotten the shutout. I think I counted maybe six or
> seven GOOD shots all game. Almost everything that WAS a shot was a weak
> no-brainer grab, or right into the pads. Routine stuff. I'll bet he was
Well sure, the Duck's effort was lack luster, but I've seen plenty of
hockey with goals scored on weak shots in the opening game. I don't care
if an opposing team mounts just one shot on goal ... a shutout is an
enormous accomplishment, and worthy of the 1st star.
> getting bored after a while ("hey, guys! give them a breakaway! I'm bored!")
^^^^^^^^^
Which happened, including Irbe's hit on one of the Ducks (surprised the
Duck could still walk after that one).
> The Ducks, frankly, looked, um, just like the Sharks last year. You're
> supposed to shoot around the goalie, guys, not at him.
The Ducks only look that bad against a handful of teams (including, thankfully,
the Sharks). They are an outstanding first year expansion team. Let us
hope that Kariya and Disney continue to be far apart in salary demands.
-mre
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 16:55 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:11:43 PST
Subject: Re: Radio changes
Me:
> >Since when do teams pay for radio coverage? Broadcast rights for sports are a
> >big money business. This can't be right.
Chuq:
> Nope. True. (also true for the Giants, and possibly for the Warriors and
> A's). What they do is buy the airtime, do their own production and sell
> their own advertising, rather than depend on the station to do it for them.
That would explain all of those Safeway commercials.;-)
This set up won't work when the stations are willing to take a loss, like KGO
with the Niners, in order to boost ratings and stature. Even KFRC must get
this kind of benefit. I know there have been mornings after a Sharks game
when I have listened to KFRC for a couple of songs before realizing it. I
also listen to KNBR more in the summer because of the Giants games.
Another thing about this is that since the Sharks would get improved ad
revenue from better ratings you would think that they would be really beating
the city up to get the repeater installed in the arena.
> The Giants used to have KNBR do it, and that's one thing that led to
> Greenwald's exile.
The piece in the Merc last year said that he had been fired by KNBR (leading
me to believe he worked for the station) and that the Giants had written a
clause into their next contract giving themselves full control over on-air
personnel.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 17:05 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Re: quick questions
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:07:39 PST
> A few other quick questions:
>
> Also, at the end of the pre-game skate, the last two on the ice for the
> Sharks are always Falloon and Odgers. Any good explanation for this?
This is also true at practices. Odgers has done this since he started
playing with the Sharks. At first it looked as if he was using the extra
time to improve his skating, For the last year and a half, he and Falloon
have been doing this together and Odgers has been working more on his shots.
I don't really know why Falloon started doing this, but it is only something
he has done for about a year and a half.
> Finally, I'm looking into actually trying the game out for myself. I got the
> brochure from Ice Hockey International and that looks pretty good, are there
> others with good beginner adult programs? Also, is this a good league to
> start out with? What are the good and bad points? Any advice would be great.
Join the Pacific Hockey league if you can. It is run out of Redwood City
with an office upstairs at Golden Gate Ice Arena. They also have beginner
programs. A skating class is in session now, but new classes are started
periodically. Most games for PHA are played at the San Jose Ice Center
and Redwood City.
If you are in the Fremont area, you may also want to look into the Fremont
Iceoplex inhouse league which is gaining popularity.
-Daryll
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 17:17 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:16:59 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Playoffs on TV
> Does anyone out there know what all the Sharks TV channels have planned for
> the playoffs? In particular, if our Sharks make it in, can we expect all
> the games to be broadcast, just like all other major sports playoffs?
Hahn and Stemkowsky, in the Ice Insights yesterday, said they don't
know yet.
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 17:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:39:57 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: "Like Freight Train"?
> ... the Ducks' backup goalie Shtalenkov (sp?) ...
Yes, exactly right. (shtal-INK-off)
> One thing that did catch my eye was a sign that said "Sergei Makarov
> Like Freight Train. Whoo! Whoo!" Great sign! I don't think that
> analogy quite works, even though Makarov was like a freight train on the
> first goal. How about Sergei Makarov - Fly like butterfly, sting like
> bee? :) :)
That came from a quotation from Markarov himself. Dan Rusenowsky told
the story at a recent Hammerhead Booster Club meeting. Sergei is usually
very reticent, but after he had one spectacular goal on the road, where he had
cruised in on a sweeping curve and whacked in a beauty, Dan said they
couldn't shut Sergei up. "Like freight train," he said, with that big
grin on his face. "Whoo! Whoo!"
> One last question, it was mentioned during the game that Rathje and
> Butsayev were scratched.
Rathje is hurt. Bootsy is just the odd man out, with seven d-men suiting up.
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 17:40 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:39:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
>That would explain all of those Safeway commercials.;-)
Actually, Magowan has noted a number of times that he has no say with
the folks who make those decisions. And they were there when Lurie
owned the team. (of course, Magowan was on the board, but I'm sure it's
a coincidence.. heh)
>This set up won't work when the stations are willing to take a loss, like KGO
>with the Niners, in order to boost ratings and stature.
Why not? Just charge under cost for the time.
>The piece in the Merc last year said that he had been fired by KNBR (leading
>me to believe he worked for the station) and that the Giants had written a
>clause into their next contract giving themselves full control over on-air
>personnel.
He was. What the Giants did was the next time the contract came up for
renewal, they cahnged it and took over production themselves, so now
announcers are employees of the Giants and not KNBR.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 17:42 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:44:14 PST
From: Hanson Loo
Registered: email@hidden
Subject: Remove from list please
Whoever is maintaining this list, please remove my e-mail id.
I can't keep up with all this mail. Thanks and apologies for
sending this out to the whole DL.
Hanson
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 18:31 PST 1994
Subject: Re: Cal Train
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 17:18:08 -0800
From: "Marc Tillinghast - Storm Integration"
Rick asked
> I thought someone here said a 2nd train had
> been added after the games, and that is was
> express to Palo Alto. I just talked to
> CalTrain and they denied it. Do any of
> you know what's going on with the train
> after games?"
There was an express train after last Thursday's game. I rode the regular train
(I stop in Mountain View), but the express train left a few minutes before our
train. Try calling CalTrain again, maybe you'll get a person with a clue.
I might add that the car at the North end of the regular train is *ROWDY*!!!
After Thursday's game things got a little out of hand when a very intoxicated
girl paraded right down the middle of the aisle displaying a full moon. Not
exactly family entertainment, but I didn't complain. The express is faster, but
I'll bet it's not as fun!!!
GO SHARKS..........
Marc
103/23/10-11
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 18:32 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Sharks defeat Mighty Ducks 6-0
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:30:39 -0800 (PST)
(I know this is a day late, but there were certain things that I wanted to
make sure about...)
Sunday, March 6, 2:00 P. M. at the San Jose Arena:
For the first time in the season, the Sharks had 3 goals in the first period,
and never allowed the Mighty Ducks to get close in finshing sweeping the Ducks
6-0 in the season series. Arturs Irbe, who was sharp but was never seriously
challenged, got his 4th career shutout by making 25 saves. Ducks starting
goalie Guy Hebert, who left after the first period after surrendering 3 goals
on 11 shots, picked up the loss. Backup goaltender Mikhail Shtalenkov made
17 saves on 20 shots. Igor Larionov, Sergei Makarov, and Sandis Ozolinsh tied
a franchise record by picking up 4 points each.
The Sharks out-shot the Ducks 11-8 in the first period, but really dominated
the action more than the shot count indicated, as for the majority of the
period it seemed that the Sharks were setting up in the Ducks zone. They
scored just 1:34 into the game on a (somewhat) disputed goal, as Makarov,
after getting a pass from Larionov in front of the crease, put it through
traffic past Hebert, but Hebert argued that the puck never crossed the
goalline. The video replay judge let the goal stand, though. The Sharks then
struck twice on beautifully set-up goals. The lead became 2-0 at 10:51, as
Ozolinsh got a pass from Jeff Norton at the right point, sent it into the right
corner to Sergei Makarov, who moved in, faked a shot, and fed Ozolinsh right
in front of Hebert, and Ozolinsh sent it past a surprised Hebert, who was out
to cut the angle on Makarov. Johan Garpenlov then scored at 16:47, while
the Sharks were on power-play, as Larionov held in the puck on a clearing
attempt and fed to Makarov in the corner, and Makarov sent a goal-line pass
right onto the stick of Garpenlov, who put it into an open net as Hebert was
again out of position.
Anaheim Coach Ron Wilson apparent didn't like what he saw with Hebert, so he
put in Shtalenkov to start the second period, but Shtalenkov was again
victimized by Ozolinsh at 5:00 to make the lead 4-0. Larionov had brought the
puck behind the net, where he was checked into the boards, but Garpenlov picked
up the puck and centered it right in front to Ozolish, who sent it through
Shtalenkov's legs into the net. Makarov struck again exactly 2 minutes later,
as Larionov, on the right side, got a pass from Norton and fed it deep to
Makarov, who again skated in but, instead of passing this time, let go a shot
that eluded Shtalenkov and went into the net. The Ducks out-shot the Sharks
11-7 for the period, but again failed to get good chances on Irbe.
The Sharks then out-shot the Ducks 13-6 for the final period, helping to
preserve the shutout, and adding another goal at 15:51. Norton intercepted an
Anaheim pass within the San Jose zone, and sent it to Ozolish, who made a good
outlet pass to Elik. Elik then skated up ice, entered the zone, and let go a
high shot that somehow eluded Shtalenkov and went over his glove into the net.
Today's three stars:
1. Sergei Makarov
2. Sandis Ozolinsh
3. Arturs Irbe
Today's lines:
Johan Garpenlov Igor Larionov Sergei Makarov
Gaetan Duchesne Todd Elik Pat Falloon
Bob Errey Jamie Baker Jeff Odgers
Ray Whitney Rob Gaudreau
(Whitney played quite a bit in place of all three forwards on the
Duchesne/Elik/Falloon line, but Gaudreau did not get a lot of playing time at
all, subbing mostly for Odgers and, for a shift or two, Errey and Garpenlov.)
Today's defensive pairings:
Jeff Norton Sandis Ozolinsh
Tom Pederson Doug Zmolek
Vlastimil Kroupa Jayson More Shawn Cronin
(Kroupa, More, and Cronin rotated on that combination, with Kroupa and More
getting more playing time than Cronin, but Cronin also played a few shifts as
a wing.)
Scratches: Jimmy Waite (knee), Mike Rathje (knee), Dale Craigwell,
Viacheslav Butsayev. Waite apparently tore a ligament in his last
start, and will undergo minor surgery that will sideline him for 10-14
days. Wade Flaherty will be called up to back up Irbe. Rathje is
day-to-day.
Notes:
1. The GLM line simply ate the Ducks for lunch, as they did the last time
against the Ducks. (In that game, Larionov had a hat trick.) The
Ducks were supposedly very good defensively, but they appeared to have
no way to contain that unit.
2. Ozolinsh and Norton set a franchise record by being +5 for the game.
3. And, talking about Russians and the Ducks defense: where was Alexei
Kasatonov?
4. Stephan Lebeau was pretty disappointing; I thought that the Ducks made
a good move picking him up for Ron Tugnutt, but if this game is an
indication of how he's playing, he won't add many goals to the Ducks'
offense.
5. The Sharks have the 8th best record in the conference,
Johan Garpenlov is the 8th best left wing in the conference,
Sergei Makarov is the 8th best right wing in the conference,
And I would rather have Pat Falloon than 88.
cordially,
nl
===============================================================================
"How many shoes can Shuchuk chuck if Shuchuk could chuck shoes?"
GO MIGHTY DUCKS OF ANAHEIM! Go for playoffs! Alexei Kasatonov for Norris!
GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs! Jason Arnott for Calder!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (email@hidden)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 19:06 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 19:03:46 PST
From: kahului!email@hidden (Douglas J Whisler)
Subject: Re: What a game!
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:54:19 -0800
> From: Chuq Von Rospach
>
> Not to belittle Artur's performance one bit, but he could have gone out for
> a cup of coffee and still gotten the shutout. I think I counted maybe six or
> seven GOOD shots all game. Almost everything that WAS a shot was a weak
> no-brainer grab, or right into the pads. Routine stuff. I'll bet he was
> getting bored after a while ("hey, guys! give them a breakaway! I'm bored!")
I gotta disagree. There were several very good scoring chances, not the
least of which was a 3-on-1. The key is, *very* few rebounds. Again,
a sign of good defense (not counting the 3-on-1).
Not to detract from the Ducks weak offense, but I observed something a bit
different before this game. During the anthem, Arturs usu. just stares into
the net, and when/as it ends, skates up and starts putting his gloves &
hat on. But Sunday, he had a more intense look, and then when the anthem
ended, he still stood there, staring intensly into the net, for what was
probably only 15-20 seconds, and then very deliberately skated up and
got his gear. I'll also mention his pads were very carefully
buckled up - sometimes, they're not. In fact, it was often an omen
to see his left lower strap come loose in the 3rd, particularly during
our losing streaks. But they were very deliberately buckled and tucked,
all the same. I figured at that point we either were going to see a near
shutout or a blowout. (Turns out, it was both.)
> leave a few bruises? There was the one 'fight' between Cronin and a Duck
> (Loney? I don't remember) where Cronin basically turned his back and forced
> the guy to grabble (Cronin's face was up against the glass near us, and you
> could clearly see him say something like "Oh, c'mon, quit screwing around"),
Yeah, it looked to me like Cronin didn't want to engage this guy. The game
is all but won, why bother risking getting hurt? There was definately some
kind of "Why should I waste my time with you" remark made, but the Duck
wanted to go at it, leaving Cronin 2 options: Let go and fight or just
throw the guy down and then it'll be over. He clearly chose #2, and went
for the takedown and the pin. Also shows the coach we know when to have
some poise...
- DW
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 19:32 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 19:30:29 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Sharks defeat Mighty Ducks 6-0
>They scored just 1:34 into the game on a (somewhat) disputed goal, as Makarov,
>after getting a pass from Larionov in front of the crease, put it through
>traffic past Hebert, but Hebert argued that the puck never crossed the
>goalline. The video replay judge let the goal stand, though.
Actually, I think he was arguing that Sergei crossed into the crease before
the puck. Either way, it was a no-brainer for the video judge, and a clear
goal.
>Anaheim Coach Ron Wilson apparent didn't like what he saw with Hebert, so he
>put in Shtalenkov to start the second period, but Shtalenkov was again
Well, since he couldn't go out mid-game and suit up a defense, he did the
next best thing and emasculate his goalie.
>The Ducks out-shot the Sharks
>11-7 for the period, but again failed to get good chances on Irbe.
Primarily because the Sharks were practicing their touch passes and giving
up a lot of shooting chances waiting for killer goals. Shot count or not,
the Sharks dominated.
>Scratches: Jimmy Waite (knee), Mike Rathje (knee), Dale Craigwell,
> Viacheslav Butsayev. Waite apparently tore a ligament in his last
> start, and will undergo minor surgery that will sideline him for 10-14
> days. Wade Flaherty will be called up to back up Irbe. Rathje is
> day-to-day.
Waite was suited for the game, but didn't look like he could actually play.
He was put on the injured list after the game.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 19:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 19:37:24 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game!
>I gotta disagree. There were several very good scoring chances, not the
>least of which was a 3-on-1. The key is, *very* few rebounds. Again,
>a sign of good defense (not counting the 3-on-1).
I counted about 8. Normally, it's closer to 12-14. Most of the shots on goal
were beachballs, and slow, bouncing ones at that. The BIG save was on the
3-1, agreed, but he was never really challenged.
>Not to detract from the Ducks weak offense, but I observed something a bit
>different before this game. During the anthem, Arturs usu. just stares into
>the net, and when/as it ends, skates up and starts putting his gloves &
>hat on. But Sunday, he had a more intense look, and then when the anthem
>ended, he still stood there, staring intensly into the net, for what was
>probably only 15-20 seconds, and then very deliberately skated up and
>got his gear. I'll also mention his pads were very carefully
>buckled up - sometimes, they're not.
There were little changes all over the team. The pre-skate was changed
around, and the slap-shot routine was moved closer by about 6-8', so that
they were closer to the face-off circles than the blue line. Most of the
players, if they didn't get it pas Irbe, went and skated a couple of laps
before getting back for another shot.
The whole pre-skate was showing some serious intensity and focus. It's been
there most of the time all season, but this was different. It's March, and
they're going to the playoffs, and I think they're trying (and so far,
succeeding) to take it to another level. Everyone was working on a higher
focus, not just Irbe. It's crunch time.
>Yeah, it looked to me like Cronin didn't want to engage this guy. The game
>is all but won, why bother risking getting hurt?
Or a game misconduct, which might lead to a suspension later in the season
at a bad time? Besdies, the ultimate insult is "you're not worthy of
fighting" and turning your back, and Cronin is evidently willing to do this.
Anyone else notice some of the post-game comments in the paper? Irbe's "I
felt sorry for the goalies watching our line going at them?" bit? Anyone
wanna guess how much worse you feel when you're not only swept, but blown
out in the final game, AND the opposing team talks about feeling sorry for
you? Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds, and I can't believe it was
accidental. Yeah, it was polite stuff tos ay at one level, but I'm sure it
didn't console the Ducks much. What we were really saying, in the subtext,
was that they weren't in our league.
Which they aren't. But it must hurt to be a Duck and read that.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 19:50 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 17:44:57 PST
From: email@hidden (Rob Eccles)
Subject: [SHARKS] Tickets For Thursday NYI Game Available
I am unable to attend this Thursday night's game. So the
tickets are for sale.
Opponent: New York Islanders
Date: Thursday March 10, 7:30 PM
Seats: Section 203, Row 7, Numbers 1 and 2 (aisle)
[This is at the end the Sharks attack for two
periods, directly above the face-off circles.]
Cost: $28 * 2 = $56. (face value)
If you are interested, give me a call at work: 408 730 3671
or email me at email@hidden .
Rob Eccles
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 21:06 PST 1994
From: "Jeffrey T. Johnson"
Subject: Re: Blind Officials
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 21:04:45 PST
> Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
>first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good. Was there
>some question about interference with the goalie? There was certainly
>no doubt that the puck was in the net, and there was no stoppage of play
>before that, so it had to be a procedural issue. Anyone know what went
>on there?
Makarov's initial shot was saved. The rebound went off his skate into the net.
They had to review to see if it was kicked in. It wasn't. 1-0.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 21:13 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Makarov
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 21:13:12 -0800 (PST)
This just in - Sergei Makarov was named NHL Player of the Week for last week.
Ozolinsh was "also considered." I think this is the first time that a Shark
has won this outright; I believe Irbe shared it with another goalie earlier
in the season. Does anyone know what an award like this amounts to in money?
:-)
Derek
--
Derek LeLash, SrTechWriter/INFP|"I could tell you 'bout the nights when I was
BASYS Automation Systems, Inc. | lonely, and you were the only one who'd talk.
home: email@hidden | I could tell you that I like your sensitivity,
work: email@hidden| but you know it's the way that you walk." (EC)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 22:08 PST 1994
Date: 08 Mar 94 01:03:59 EST
From: Samuel Feldman
Subject: What a Game!
Well, everyone seems to be very pleased with the game on Sunday. Great, so we
won against a
team that didn't come to skate. And all but 1 point (correct?) was scored by
the Ov line.
And that really worries me. We have to have more than one line that can
score. Although I must
admit that the defense looks pretty good. Buffooon looked totally
ineffective. Whitney may have
well not bothered. Not that they aren't trying -- they are. Got to give them
credit for that. And poor
Gaudreau...
As to Moshe's query about why the first goal was reviewed, I quickly turned my
radio on and caught
the announcers saying the Ducks were claiming that Mak kicked the puck into
the net.
-- Samuel
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 22:31 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 22:30:00 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: What a Game!
>And all but 1 point (correct?) was scored by the Ov line.
Yup. That point by Elik. Forget who the assists were.
>And that really worries me. We have to have more than one line that
>can score. Although I must admit that the defense looks pretty good.
>Buffooon looked totally ineffective. Whitney may have well not
>bothered. Not that they aren't trying -- they are. Got to give them
>credit for that. And poor Gaudreau...
We do have multiple scoring lines. Take a look at the stats. Falloon is up
there. Eliks is up there. Odgers, bless him, has gotten a share. Both
Falloon and Elik both had some good shots robbed by Shtalenkov, and more
shots lost to a puck that bounced at the wrong time.
I thought Falloon in general had a pretty good game. I think your
Buffoon is comment out of line, especially the last few weeks. He's
improved from -25 to about -3 in one season, has 40 points in 64 games,
and is fourth on the team in scoring. His scoring pace is close to
what he did last year before the injury, in fact, and only .12 points a
game off his rookie season. That's not exactly chopped liver, folks. He's
playing a strong two-way game, something he's NEVER needed to do before this
year, and while he started slow, his scoring is right up there. What's more
useful, a 40 point scorer who's -25? Or one who's -5? The kid has completely
rethought his game, and come out a much better player for it. He may not
score 60 goals for us this year, but when was the last time Teemu went
mucking in the corner for a puck?
As to Gaudreau, well, sigh. He's done everything but burnt his sticks at
center ice as an offering to the hockey gods, and it isn't working. He's
almost painful to watch. He ought to be a good, solid 50 point a season
2-way player. He's a checking line forward these days, and I just don't see
how he'll stay in the league with that. The person who's doing the job Rob
should be doing is Garpenlov. I NEVER thought I'd see Garpy clearing corners
and camping in the crease. It is to dream.
>As to Moshe's query about why the first goal was reviewed, I quickly
>turned my radio on and caught the announcers saying the Ducks were
>claiming that Mak kicked the puck into the net.
So now we have three versions of this. After the goal, Hebert clearly went
to the ref and pointed at the crease line. It's possible he was saying it
was kicked from there, but the goalies usually make kicking motions, and he
didn't. It still looked to me likehe was complaining about a crease
violation.
Whatever it was, it was a goal. The replay on the jumbotron (for the five
of us in the place that can see it) showed that whatever he was arguing
over, it was wrong.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 22:53 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 94 22:42:00 +1600
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Blind Officials
>> Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
>> first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good.
> From the handwaving, Hebert was claiming that Makarov was in the
> crease before the puck. The replay showed that it wasn't even close.
According to one newscast ( don't remember which) Herbert claimed that
Makarov kicked the puck in.
Rich Strauber
------------ ORIGINAL ATTACHMENT --------
SENT 03-07-94 FROM SMTPGATE (email@hidden)
> Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
>first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good.
>From the handwaving, Hebert was claiming that Makarov was in the crease
before the puck. The replay showed that it wasn't even close.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 08:07 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:04:15 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: "Like Freight Train"?
> ... the Ducks' backup goalie Shtalenkov (sp?) ...
Yes, exactly right. (shtal-INK-off)
We in 209 determined that the correct pronunciation is "STINK-y".
have fun
gak
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 08:35 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:35:22 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Rathje
According to the paper this morning, Rathje's been sent to KC on a
conditioning stint for his knee. Good news, as it implies he's
close to ready.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 08:46 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 08:44:36 -0800
From: email@hidden (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Sign for Thursday
Jon writes:
>
>Sign for Thursday's game:
>
>WE CAN CURE KASPARITIS IN OUR LIFETIME
As I told Jon, this has to be one of the BEST ideas EVER. He has graciously
offered to let this span the wall of section 104. Thanks much Jon!!
The guy that sits in front of us in row 23 seat 2 came up with another
great one for the Kings game. Stay tuned!
Bill
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Bill St. Croix Detroit Red Wings #1
Email: email@hidden San Jose Sharks #2
"The Spectacular" San Jose Arena 104-24-3/4 Michigan Football #3
Rob Zettler Fan Club, San Jose Chapter Philadelphia Flyers #4?
******************** Sign Man of section 104 row 24 ********************
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 08:49 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 08:47:25 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: What a Game!
Why is it that no matter how well some players perform, they won't
get the acknowledgement of fans?
Samuel Feldman says "Buffooon looked totally ineffective." I have to
assume he's talking about Pat Falloon, who got a wakeup call early in
the first period, and then went on to play one of his better games.
He was forechecking like a demon, actually venturing into the corners
on several occasions, and backchecking quite effectively. To say he
was totally ineffective is to admit not watching the game real close.
A player can be quite effective and still not light the light on a
regular basis. Yes I know that Pat was hired to light the light, but
he's much more valuable as a complete player than he is as just an
electrician. Give the kid a chance, and watch his overall play during
a game, don't just watch his slap shot.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 08:53 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:52:58 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Player Of The Week
>KCBS is reporting that the NHL's Player Of The Week, having led his team to a
>2-0 record with 4 goals and 3 assists (or was that reversed) is...Sergei
>Makarov!
I think there's a sub-text here. We've had a number of players that have had
similar weeks (including more than one by Sergei) and who haven't gotten it.
The Sharks are also generally not shown very often on the Plays of the Week
and similar highlight reels.
Generally, I think there's been a league-wide feeling that sooner or later
the Sharks were going to settle back down towards mediocrity, given that
we're an expansion team and all that.
Well, we haven't collapsed. It's now looking more and more clear that we
won't collapse (while the Senators never did anything but, and now both
Tampa and Florida are starting to fade, while the Ducks made a run and came
up short) -- in short, while I think the Panthers got most of the press,
we'll be the team in the playoffs. As it stands, we're the only expansion
team that's qualified for the playoffs (Florida just dropped out behind
Philly), and if we can keep that up, they won't be able to use the dreaded
'E' word any longer.
And so the league is starting to take us more seriously, and awards like
this are an indication they aren't writing us off as just another Expansion
doormat any more.
I have three goals for the rest of the season for the team:
1) make the playoffs
2) Finish with more points than the Panthers.
3) Finish higher than 8th in the conference, so we can avoid the Red Wings.
Two of those three are easily do-able. Finishing higher than all the expansion
teams is an important piece of bragging rights, imho. And the third is
possible if we settle down and focus on getting the job done.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 09:05 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:05:24 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Interesting comment I found on CompuServe
I think I've figured out why the Sharks have been playing better on
the road this year than ever before. According to an article in this
morning's paper, the Sharks have to take cold showers after playing in
the new *multi-million-dollar* San Jose Arena because there's no hot
water in their showers due to some quirky plumbing problem. Does that
take the prize or what?!! Personally, I think the general contractor
(along with the plumbing subcontractor) should be taken out and shot.
In the meantime, the players are no doubt tempted to avoid working up
any kind of sweat out on the ice during home games, hoping to avoid
the showers altogether! Devoted fan that I am, maybe I should offer
them the use of *my* shower for the remainder of the season.
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* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
* InfoWorld Magazine MCI: 529-1119 *
* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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* GOOO SHAAAAARKS!!! CHOMP-CHOMP *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 09:11 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:10:23 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: refs on notice
Since Feb. 9th when the league put the refs on notice to call more
away-from-the-puck penalties, the two clubs whose records took a
significant downturn were the San Jose Sharks and the Florida Panthers
- the two teams who've made a living playing the neutral zone trap.
Right now it appears that unless Florida gets back in gear they may be
on the outside looking in, while the Sharks were able to afford a
minor losing streak and appear to have adjusted.
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* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
* InfoWorld Magazine MCI: 529-1119 *
* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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* GOOO SHAAAAARKS!!! CHOMP-CHOMP *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 09:16 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:15:20 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: Norris Trophy
How about that Ozolnish. San Jose needs to make lots of noise about a
Norris trophy for him. He'll never win because he is not as cheap as
Chelios or as good as Bourque, but a little noise never hurts.
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* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
* InfoWorld Magazine MCI: 529-1119 *
* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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* GOOO SHAAAAARKS!!! CHOMP-CHOMP *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 09:45 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 12:43:02 EST
Subject: Like Freight Train
Glad people like the sign and that the story is getting around. I'm trying
to see if Rusanowky will tell it on the radio during an away game so more
people will understand.
Give Dieter an A+ for the sign. I went up to him the day I put it up and
asked if he had a train whistle in his bag of tricks. He said no but he'd
look into it. Low and behold two games later, he has a train whistle that he
plays after they mention Makarovs goal. It's not really loud, but heh..
Anyone else who has a good idea for signs let me know. ( could you guess I
got the Thank You Mr. Sather sign from the net?). There will be an OV-FENSE
sign up Tuesday.
My contacts in Kansas City say if we take any more of their boys they'll
shoot us. (They're very territorial). Rumor has it that Dan Ryder may come
back from Roanoke while Flats is up here. Seems they think Waite might just
end up there for "reconditioning" also.
Rene - Blueline Fan #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 09:49 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 09:48:56 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Like Freight Train
>Seems they think Waite might just
>end up there for "reconditioning" also.
That's our thought, too. If he's out for ten days or so, and then off to KC
for two weeks for reconditioning, he comes back to San Jose just about the
time we go to the playoffs, and Flats goes back to KC to win the Turner Cup
for them. Assuming they make the playoffs (hope hope).
It makes perfect logistical sense (for the Sharks).
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 10:11 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:09:58 -0800
"Re: What a game!" (Mar 7, 4:48pm)
Subject: Re: What a game!
On Mar 7, 4:48pm, Mike Eisler wrote:
> They are an outstanding first year expansion team. Let us
> hope that Kariya and Disney continue to be far apart in salary demands.
>
Are you kidding? I'm hoping for Kariya to get there as soon as possible.
6-0 shutouts are a bore.
-- archer
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 10:20 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:16:36 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Some call it flattery.
Forwarded from my buddy the insufferable Islanders fan...
...you may mock at will.
have fun
gak
----- Begin Included Message -----
>From email@hidden Tue Mar 8 10:10:31 1994
Subject: Some call it flattery.
>Sign for Thursday's game:
>
>WE CAN CURE KASPARITIS IN OUR LIFETIME
Ya know, this is the sincerest form of flattery. This happens
to all the truly great ones. Was Gordie Howe chided by Chicago
fans? Bobby Orr by Montreal fans? Dennis Potvin by Ranger fans?
(Damn, whatta gift! I have the distinct ability to hit the
*TRUTH* on the very first attempt.)
Later...
-Mike
----- End Included Message -----
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 10:52 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:52:38 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Sharks defeat Mighty Ducks 6-0
> >They scored just 1:34 into the game on a (somewhat) disputed goal, as Makarov,
> >after getting a pass from Larionov in front of the crease, put it through
> >traffic past Hebert, but Hebert argued that the puck never crossed the
> >goalline. The video replay judge let the goal stand, though.
>
> Actually, I think he was arguing that Sergei crossed into the crease before
> the puck. Either way, it was a no-brainer for the video judge, and a clear
> goal.
I studied the videotape last night, and it appears that Makarov's first
shot wound up under Hebert's left leg, maybe a little to the rear. Then
there was a scrum in front of Hebert, and Makarov kicked Hebert's leg
(sideways, not point-first) and knocked the puck in croquet-style.
This leads to an interesting point of order. Makarov's foot did not touch
the puck. He kicked Hebert, not the puck. And yet, it was that kick that
scored the goal.
Now, there's no way referee Shick could tell this in real time. Even
the video judge, with less time than I had to go over and over it,
probably had trouble with it. Still and all, I think the right call
would have been "no goal." (Not that I'm complaining, mind you.)
We had some other beneficial decisions, too. For example, within a few
minutes of that goal, the Ducks had a decent break interrupted for an
offsides call, but the tape showed that the "offsides" Duck did wait
just long enough to cross the line. (A Shark defenseman was doing a
fine job of holding up the puck-carrier.)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:03 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:00:28 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game!
> From email@hidden Tue Mar 8 10:08 PST 1994
> On Mar 7, 4:48pm, Mike Eisler wrote:
> > They are an outstanding first year expansion team. Let us
> > hope that Kariya and Disney continue to be far apart in salary demands.
> Are you kidding? I'm hoping for Kariya to get there as soon as possible.
> 6-0 shutouts are a bore.
Well I'd rather make the playoffs beating the ducks 6-0, then missing
the playoffs by losing to them 3-2. Playoffs are exciting. Everything
else is by comparison not. Besides, haven't most ducks/sharks
games been much closer?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:11 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:11:24 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Rathje
> According to the paper this morning, Rathje's been sent to KC on a
> conditioning stint for his knee. Good news, as it implies he's
> close to ready.
Maybe it *is* ready, but this is a clever way to get past the
restriction about his juniors obligation.
I also wonder if, in a couple of weeks, J. Waite can go to KC on the
same excuse?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:16 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:14:31 -0800
"Re: What a game!" (Mar 8, 11:00am)
Subject: Re: What a game!
>
> Well I'd rather make the playoffs beating the ducks 6-0, then missing
> the playoffs by losing to them 3-2. Playoffs are exciting. Everything
> else is by comparison not. Besides, haven't most ducks/sharks
> games been much closer?
>
Not by much. Besides, I'd rather see higher radio/tv ratings and growth
of the sport on the West Coast. Kariya will help everyone in that regard.
He's that good.
I look at it this way: we made the playoffs by beating a weak team in a
weak division. It will mean a lot more when we make the playoffs by
coming out of a stronger division. Consider that while the (gag) Ducks
get Kariya, we'll be getting Kozlov (assuming he fires his agent and hires
someone who genuinely wants to make a deal). And considering some of the
other talent in the Sharks system, I think that we can look forward to some
very good teams in the next few years.
-- archer
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:28 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:26:54 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game!
>I look at it this way: we made the playoffs by beating a weak team in a
>weak division.
Um, we made the playoffs. As a third year team. The Pacific might be a weak
division, but it's not just the division we deal with. It's the conference,
and the Western Conference isn't chopped liver.
Besdies, we did it not just beating the Ducks, but the Jets, Oilers and
Kings, too.
Don't pooh-pooh what we're doing too much.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:52 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:54:20 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: What a game!
>>I look at it this way: we made the playoffs by beating a weak team in a
>>weak division.
>
>Um, we made the playoffs. As a third year team. The Pacific might be a weak
>division, but it's not just the division we deal with. It's the conference,
>and the Western Conference isn't chopped liver.
>
>Besdies, we did it not just beating the Ducks, but the Jets, Oilers and
>Kings, too.
>
>Don't pooh-pooh what we're doing too much.
The Ducks, Jets, Oilers and Kings!?! Those are weak teams this year that I
expect the Sharks to play hard and at least keep up with if not beat. The
possible exception is LA since they can be very difficult if their offense
is on.
Overall I am satisfied with the Sharks play this season, and I think that
there is alot to look forward to. However, the Sharks are a weak team in a
weak division, and after looking at the rest of the conference, those who
are not making the playoffs are not particularly strong either...
The Sharks have agreat chance at the playoffs and even a slim chance at
round 2 if they can move up to 6th place and avoid the Wings and the
Leafs...
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 11:57 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 14:53:56 EST
Subject: Makarov's Award
Chuq responded --
>>KCBS is reporting that the NHL's Player Of The Week, having led his team to
a
>>2-0 record with 4 goals and 3 assists (or was that reversed) is...Sergei
>>Makarov!
>I think there's a sub-text here. We've had a number of players that have had
>similar weeks (including more than one by Sergei) and who haven't gotten it.
>The Sharks are also generally not shown very often on the Plays of the Week
>and similar highlight reels.
I agree, there does seem to be, at least an "inequity" in the highlights,
although frankly a team with few outright superstars is less likely to be
ESPN friendly.
I am impressed that the league voted this award despite Wendell Clark scoring
back-to-back hat tricks, including an overtime game-winner against the
second-best team (Detroit)
in the league. Someone is showing some enlightenment.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 12:02 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Re: Player Of The Week
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 12:00:45 PST
>
> I have three goals for the rest of the season for the team:
>
> 1) make the playoffs
> 2) Finish with more points than the Panthers.
> 3) Finish higher than 8th in the conference, so we can avoid the Red Wings.
>
I REALLY like number three. I think I would move it up to number two now
that I've written a check for playoff tickets...
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:20 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:18:44 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Mail from email@hidden
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 14:52:13 EST
Subject: Fear & Loathing in LA
(With apologies to nelson lu)
I culled a couple remarks from the Kings mailing list that you may be
interested in. (yes I subscribe. yes old habits die hard. yes I wish it was
chicago or vancouver we were stonewalling from the playoffs. I will enter a
twelve step program soon)
>>"The *real* question is why McNall doesn't open his eyes and his >>wallet
and
>>buy a *real* goalie. Hrudey is lame and they've exiled Knickle to >>Siberia
>>or Fort Wayne or some godforsaken gulag like it. Everybody talks >>about
McSorley's illegal stick in game 2 of the finals, but it was >>Hrudey who let
2 goals in after that in something like 2 minutes.
>>The Kings have everything they need except good (or even >>ADEQUATE) goal
>>tending. Maybe Irbe has a brother??!!??"
They can only wish, I guess
And regarding our beloved Sharks:
>>As their 4 straight sell-out crowd, and 15th in their last 17 games
>>chanted "playoffs, playoffs" the San Jose Sharks defeating the >>Might
Ducks 6-0 last
>>night to move 6 point ahead of the Kings. With only 18 games left >>in the
>>season, having to settle for a tie is not good enough anymore. If >>the
Kings
>>expect to climb past Anaheim and San Jose for the last playoff >>spot, they
have
>>to start winning and holding onto leads.
>>5 of the Kings 18 remaining games are against San Jose and >>Anaheim.
They sound excited at the prospect. So I am sure are we.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:25 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 13:22:16 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: from ducks list...
Thought you might find this interesting.
----
>From email@hidden Tue Mar 8 13:17:41 1994
id AA15144; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:15:04 -0800
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:17:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Hart (MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation)
Subject: Mighty Ducks 0 at San Jose 6 -- 3/6/94
Status: R
In a game termed a "must win" by coach Ron Wilson, the Ducks came out
flat to open the game, didn't improve during the game, and fell to the
San Jose Sharks, 6-0, in a playoff atmosphere in front of a sellout
crowd at the San Jose Arena.
The 6 goal deficit was the largest margin of defeat ever suffered by
the Ducks, eclipsing the 5 goal loss to the Detroit Red Wings, 7-2,
way back on opening night.
The defense took the game off and gave little, if any, support to Ducks
goaltenders Guy Hebert and Mikhail Shtalenkov. The offense was
non-existant as the Sharks dominated most of the play. Five of the
six Sharks goals were scored from within 10 feet of the crease.
The loss gave the Sharks a season series sweep in their 6-game series
with the Ducks. The shutout was the second straight over the Ducks
at the San Jose Arena. The Ducks have not scored a goal in San Jose
since October 28, when Sean Hill converted a power-play at 19:16 of the
third period, a total of 120 minutes, 44 seconds.
First period:
-------------
Sandis Ozolinsh passed to the blue line to Sergei Markov at the blue line.
Markarov skated into the Ducks zone along the near boards, around the
Ducks defense, and in on Guy Hebert. Hebert made the initial save, but
the rebound came back out to Markarov and appeared to go into the net off
his foot. On video review, the goal was allowed.
>From the top of the near circle, Ozolinsh passed in deep to Markarov, who
had virtually all day to find the open man, Ozolinsh, breaking in on
Hebert alone. Hebert made the initial save, but the Ducks had no one back
to help, and Ozolinsh put the rebound past Hebert.
After an impressive show of puck control by the Sharks on the power play,
Markarov, from behind the net, passed out to Larionov in the near circle.
Larionov faked a shot, then fired a pass into the slot, where Johan
Garpenlov buried the puck into the open net.
Second period:
--------------
Mikhail Shtalenkov replaced Hebert in the nets for the Ducks.
>From behind the goal line on the near side, Garpenlov passed out to
Ozolinsh breaking in alone down the slot. Ozolinsh shot off the pass
into the open net as the Ducks defense took neither the puck nor the man.
Larionov passed from the far point to Jeff Norton at the top of the far
circle. Norton's touch pass went down to Makarov at the goal line on the
far side of the net. Markarov walked out in front of the net, faked
defenseman Bill Houlder out of the play, and buried the puck past
Shtalenkov.
Third period:
-------------
Todd Elik took a pass at the red line from Norton and, with the Ducks
anticipating a whistle for a two-line pass, skated into the zone and
fired a slap shot from the top of the far circle into the upper near
corner of the net. For the record, the puck crossed the red line before
Elik and was an onsides pass.
Three Stars:
------------
1. Sergei Markarov
2. Sandis Ozolinsh
3. Arturs Irbe
I'd give a fourth star to Igor Larionov, and maybe a fifth to Jeff Norton.
Ducks Notes:
------------
If the Ducks fail to make the playoffs, consider the following:
1. The Ducks are 1-10 against the other 4 expansion teams of the 90's,
with 1 game remaining against Ottawa.
2. The Ducks are 0-10 against San Jose and Los Angeles, the two teams
they're competing against in the eighth place fight.
Stu Grimson needed 7 stitches to close the recurring cut on his right
hand after the fight late in the third period against Doug Zmolek.
Only Garry Valk, Terry Yake, Bob Corkum, Stu Grimson, and Todd Ewen came
out of the game not in minus.
Joe Sacco had 3 shots in the game. No other Duck had more than one.
Ducks scratches:
----------------
Alexei Kasatonov (broken foot)
Anatoli Semenov (elbow)
Sean Hill (coach's decision)
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| Mighty Ducks Box Score - Sunday, March 6, 1994 |
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Anaheim 0 0 0 -- 0
San Jose 3 2 1 -- 6
First Period:
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Scoring
1. SJ, Markarov 22, (Ozolinsh, Larionov), 1:34
2. SJ, Ozolinsh 19, (Markarov, Norton), 10:51
3. SJ, Garpenlov 15, (Larionov, Makarov), 16:47, (pp)
Penalties
Elik, SJ, (roughing), :24
Valk, Ana, (roughing), 1:10
Van Allen, Ana, (slashing), 1:53
Larionov, SJ, (slashing), 1:53
Ewen, Ana, (boarding), 15:47
Second Period:
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Scoring
4. SJ, Ozolinsh 20, (Garpenlov, Larionov), 5:00
5. SJ, Markarov 23, (Norton, Larionov), 7:00
Penalties
Errey, SJ, (tripping), 2:36
Grimson, Ana, (elbowing), 8:10
Makarov, SJ, (tripping), 12:07
Williams, Ana, (cross-checking), 15:39
Third Period:
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Scoring
6. SJ, Elik 16, (Norton, Ozolinsh), 15:51
Penalties
Grimson, Ana, (cross-checking, roughing), 7:53
Cronin, SJ, (roughing, roughing), 7:53
Van Allen, Ana, (hooking), 9:35
Grimson, Ana, (fighting major), 19:34
Zmolek, SJ, (fighting major), 19:34
Shots on Goal
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Anaheim 8 11 6 -- 25
San Jose 11 7 13 -- 31
Power-play Conversions
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Anaheim, 0 of 3, 0 shorthanded, 0 empty net
San Jose, 1 of 5, 0 shorthanded, 0 empty net
Season Power Play Stats
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Goals Attempts Pct. Short-Handed Empty Net
Mighty Ducks 45 300 .150 6 4
Kills Attempts Pct. Short-Handed Empty Net
Opponents 252 308 .818 9 7
Goaltenders
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Anaheim, Hebert, (15-21-3), Shtalenkov (0:00 of 2nd period)
San Jose, Irbe, (21-24-12)
Attendance -- 17,190 (so)
Referee -- Rob Schick
Next Mighty Ducks Game
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Tuesday, March 8, 1994 at Chicago Blackhawks in Phoenix, 6:35PM, no TV
Ducks Records by Division/Conference
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Pacific Central + Western
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Home + 3- 7- 1 4- 6- 0 + 7-13- 1
Road + 4- 7- 0 6- 3- 2 + 10-10- 2
Neutral+ 0- 0- 0 1- 0- 0 + 1- 0- 0
-------+---------------------+----------
Total 7-14- 1 11- 9- 2 18-23- 3
Atlantic Northeast + Eastern + Overall
-------+---------------------+------------+-----------
Home + 2- 5- 0 1- 3- 1 + 3- 8- 1 + 10-21- 2
Road + 3- 3- 0 1- 3- 1 + 4- 6- 1 + 14-16- 3
Neutral+ 0- 0- 0 0- 0- 0 + 0- 0- 0 + 1- 0- 0
-------+---------------------+------------+-----------
Total 5- 8- 0 2- 6- 2 7-14- 2 25-37- 5
Bill Hart
email@hidden
rec.sport.hockey net contact for the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:28 PST 1994
From: "Jeffrey T. Johnson"
Subject: Anybody in 209 got a single for tonight?
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 13:25:51 PST
Looking for one in 209 for tonight. Otherwise I'll catch it on SportsChannel.
e-mail or phone:
--
Jeff Johnson | Cisco Systems, Inc | voice: (415) 688-7789
Software Engineer | 1525 O'Brien Drive | fax: (415) 688-4575
Router Management | Menlo Park, CA 94025 | email: email@hidden
The difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:34 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:33:15 -0800
From: Kevin Ball
Subject: Re: refs on notice
"andre kvitka" writes:
> Since Feb. 9th when the league put the refs on notice to call more
> away-from-the-puck penalties, the two clubs whose records took a
> significant downturn were the San Jose Sharks and the Florida Panthers
> - the two teams who've made a living playing the neutral zone trap.
> Right now it appears that unless Florida gets back in gear they may be
> on the outside looking in, while the Sharks were able to afford a
> minor losing streak and appear to have adjusted.
Does anyone out there have the Shark's Penalty-Minutes/Game numbers before
and after this crackdown by the Ref's? It would be interesting to see the
difference. I know earlier in the year we were the LEAST penalized team in
the league.
Thanks,
kdb
---
Kevin Ball
email@hidden What does my employer know about hockey anyway?
Epicentre: 209/16/1&2
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:53 PST 1994
Date: 8 Mar 1994 13:49:37 -0800
From: "Brian Miyakusu"
Subject: Re: What a game!
email@hidden, email@hidden
RE>>What a game!
> Um, we made the playoffs. As a third year team.
Don't woof it, man.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 13:56 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Re: PHA questions...
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 13:53:39 PST
>
> Hi, well all of you recommended the PHA as a good league to start out in. So
> why do you recommend it? Is there something that made it stand out? Do
> you have any experience with other hockey leagues?
>
> The issues I know I'm concerned about:
>
> Beginner program:
> For me, I'm the ultimate beginner who didn't even strap on a pair skates
> until I was 22 years old (California native obviously). Does the PHA have
> a program for someone like me? Do they allow lots of time to get up to
> speed? I think I need lots of instruction (skating, stopping, turning,
> passing, defense, line changing).
There is a beginner course that is eight weeks of instruction through
the basics, and then an eight week schedule of games against four to
six other teams in the same boat.
>
> Also, is there a league that won't humiliate me and in the event I
> do actually improve, are there tiered leagues to keep things competative,
> but not overwhelming - I'm not interested in sitting at the end of someone's
> bench waiting for garbage time.
The PHA is a tiered league, there are at least seven divisions I can think
of if not more. You start at the bottom and work your way up. As far as
ice time is concerned. League rules prohibit any player from being "benched".
It runs on the basic principle of "you pay, you play". The amount of ice
time may vary depending on the team dynamics. Most teams are very good
about making sure everyone gets equal ice time.
Another note about the tiered league. PHA keeps stats on the league and
will move players up or down the ladder if necessary to balance the play
correctly.
> BTW When are the Signups?
Summer league signups are in progress now. A new beginner program should
be starting soon, because the last group just completed they're playoffs.
> Cost:
> Let's get down to business, what are the fees?
The summer league series is $275. Fee includes two summer weight jerseys
with numbers. Beginner course fees may be higher due to cost of
instruction.
Winter league costs are higher, but the season is a full 20 week season
with double elimination playoff system. I don't remember the actual
cost.
> Location:
> I'd like to not have to venture too far away from San Jose.
Most games are played at the San Jose Ice Centre on the corner of Tenth
and Alma. Additional games are played at the Golden Gate Ice Arena on
Bay Road in Redwood City, and an occasional game is played at the Eastridge
Ice Arena in San Jose.
> Time Commitment:
> When/where are the games and practices? How much time does it take? Outside
> of work there's family and I lead the Junior High group at my church so time
> is a big deal. A couple of nights a week is fine, but I'd like to still have
> a life outside of it. Are games late at night? Do they fall on different
> days of the week?
Games are once a week on Sun-Thu. Practice is up to the individual teams
to decide. Practice is usually once a week or once every two weeks. Game
times vary from as early as 4:30 on weekends and as late as 10:20 in the
evening. A game takes approximately an hour and a half.
> How Competitive:
> Ok, maybe my age is mellowing me, but I'm not interested in reliving my
> youth, I'd just like to go out and enjoy the game. How can you characterize
> this league in terms of competativeness? I'd like to find a league that
> plays hard, but doesn't whine/cheat/injure/fight.
Again this varies by team. Some teams are in the league for fun (like the
beer league in softball), and others are far more serious. Some teams are
more physical than others. Overall, this is a competive league, and play
is not that physical. Fights result in suspensions or banishment from
the league depending on severity. Needless to say, the worst we generally
get is what would be considered roughing in the NHL.
> Equipment:
> More on the general level, where's a good place to get good equipment at
> a decent price? What should I expect to shell out to get decked out?
Really depends on how serious you are. Expect to spend between $500 and
$1500, or $1000 to $2500 if you are a goalie. You can spend a lot less or
alot more.
Eastridge generally has the best prices, but doesn't have the best prices.
Power Play hockey is another place to go. They are not as cheap, but they
have a good stock. Mail order is another option if you know exactly what
you want and have tried them out in a local store.
> Checking/Slap Shot/Fighting:
> Is the PHA a no-check league? Do they allow full slap shots? I've heard
> that some leagues can get pretty hot headed, does the league allow fighting?
PHA is a non-checking league. This does not mean that there is no checking.
Generally if you are camped out in the crease you are fair game. An
occasional check will be thrown by an overzealous player, usually resulting
in a penalty if seen by the refs. Full slap shots are allowed. As above,
the league does not allow fighting.
> Season:
> When are the leagues? When can I join? How long are the seasons? I figure
> it could be year round so that's great. How do they put teams together?
League has a 14 game summer schedule and a twenty game winter schedule.
You can signup at anytime and they will get you on a team. They run
evaluation clinics on a semi-regular basis to determine placement. Players
have been added before during the middle of the season.
-Daryll
#15, C/LW, San Jose Ice Hawks
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 14:06 PST 1994
Date: 8 Mar 1994 14:03:00 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Player Of The Week
Subject: Time:1:52 PM
OFFICE MEMO RE>Player Of The Week Date:3/8/94
Geoff Galat sez
>I am impressed that the league voted this award despite Wendell Clark
>scoring back-to-back hat tricks
Clark and Ozolinsh (3 goals and 3 assists in 3 games) were the co-runners-up
for the award. And a slight correction on my initial messsage: the Murky News
reported that Makarov's 4 goals and 3 assists were in 3 games, not 2 as KCBS
(or perhaps my ears) reported; apparently the NHL's "week" is Monday-Sunday.
The Sharks were 2-0-1 in those three games.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:06 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:05:57 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: FWD: Tickets
>From email@hidden Tue Mar 8 14:47 PST 1994
Subject: Tickets for tonights game
Status: R
I have two in section 115 on the red line for tonights game.
They are 38 dollor tickets. I will be on the network til 4:30
or you can try me at these phone #'s.
(408) 378-6386
Work (800) 647-9366 x319
Sharks vs Buffalo tonight bethere bethere bethere...
Later George
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:09 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:10:22 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Tickets for tonights game
I need tickets for tonights game. I can use any tickets anywhere, any
quantity...
No I am not a scalper. We have a short-notice opportunity to play
afterwards, but we need tickets to get into the arena for the game and
therefore be able to play afterwards.
Besides Mogilny is not all that great anyways :-)
Thanks,
Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:18 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 15:09:14 PST
From: email@hidden (Rob Eccles)
Subject: Re: Makarov's Award
geoff wrote:
-> I agree, there does seem to be, at least an "inequity" in the highlights,
-> although frankly a team with few outright superstars is less likely to be
-> ESPN friendly.
Hmm. When will I be able to watch the Sharks play on ESPN? It's
almost as if ESPN is pretending they don't exist. Until the Sharks
start getting the (inter)national TV media coverage they deserve, they
won't get their share of respect from the public.
Why doesn't ESPN carry a Sharks/Kings game? (Wrong night of the week?)
The upcomming Sharks/Kings games are *important* wrt the playoffs. Perhaps
I have missed the Sharks on ESPN-2 (still not available for me).
Rob
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:30 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:29:14 -0800
"Re: What a game!" (Mar 8, 1:49pm)
"Chuq Von Rospach" ,
email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game!
On Mar 8, 1:49pm, Brian Miyakusu wrote:
> Subject: Re: What a game!
> RE>>What a game!
> > Um, we made the playoffs. As a third year team.
>
> Don't woof it, man.
>
>
Indeed. The Gods of Woofing have been known to punish teams
for having fans like this. The '93 Giants come to mind.
-- a
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:50 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 15:48:02 PST
From: email@hidden (John Sokol x2624)
Subject: Radio broadcasts on KLIV
Has anyone noticed how bad the audio is on Sharks games on KLIV?
Dan sounds like he is broadcasting from inside of a garbage can.
It is really hard to listen to entire game with such poor quality
sound. Dan sounds great on KFRC. Apparnetly, KLIV can't afford
decent transmitting equipment. This is another reason why the
Sharks management needs to find a better radio station than KLIV,
when KFRC can't broadcast Sharks games.
John Sokol
NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION
Santa Clara, California 95052-8090
E-mail: email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 15:56 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:54:49 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Re: Radio broadcasts on KLIV
re: bad sound
Actually, it's probably the cheap phone lines they're having Dan
broadcast down. KLIV won't want to invest in broadcast quality lines
for less than a full season. So, Dan gets to talk over the phone to
the station (essentially--he's *not* talking into a receiver).
But, really--I had better phone lines at the college station I worked at.
With any luck, this will all get resolved when the Sharks get their
next radio contract.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 16:06 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 16:03:14 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Makarov's Award
>Hmm. When will I be able to watch the Sharks play on ESPN?
Next year. ESPN is oriented strongly towards the east coast prime time start
time, which means ALL the west coast teams get short shrift. I think they
purposefully left theSharks off the schedule because of our horrible year
last year. These things are done WAY in advance, so it's hard to move around
the schedule late. You make your best guesses efore the season starts.
(hey, it could be worse. How many dogs were on Monday Night football the
last year?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 16:26 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:41:49 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: What a game!
> From email@hidden Tue Mar 8 11:14 PST 1994
> > else is by comparison not. Besides, haven't most ducks/sharks
> > games been much closer?
> >
>
> Not by much. Besides, I'd rather see higher radio/tv ratings and growth
Somehow I knew you'd make me dig up the scores (from gak's file):
10/28 Anaheim 3 SHARKS 4 2-8-1 2-3-1 0-5-0 24 39
10/31 SHARKS 2 Anaheim 1 (OT) 3-9-1 2-4-1 1-5-0 28 44
11/26 SHARKS 4 Anaheim 3 9-13-4 4-5-3 5-8-1 67 81
11/27 Anaheim 0 SHARKS 1 10-13-4 5-5-3 5-8-1 68 81
1/12 SHARKS 5 Anaheim 2 13-21-10 6-8-7 7-13-3 112 141
3/6 SHARKS 6 Anaheim 0 ? ? ? ? ?
All but two games have been competive. And I'm certain that the Sharks have
been behind in the close games ... the 2-1 win over Anaheim sticks out as
an example.
> I look at it this way: we made the playoffs by beating a weak team in a
> weak division. It will mean a lot more when we make the playoffs by
> coming out of a stronger division. Consider that while the (gag) Ducks
Divisions are meaningless now, except to the Flames and which ever team
is currently leading the Adams division (can't recall its new name).
This notion that the Sharks making the playoffs doesn't mean anything
if we can't beat the "better" teams is something that I don't
understand, and I'm totally baffled when it doesn't mean anything when
we finish a sweep of an expansion team with a blowout (this is what
nonexpansion teams are *supposed* to do). The only thing meaningful is
(1) making the playoffs, and (2) how many games we win in that first
playoff series.
> get Kariya, we'll be getting Kozlov (assuming he fires his agent and hires
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's doubtful that we'll get him this year, and even more doubtful that
he'll have an immediate impact. He wasn't even good enough to make the
worst Russian team in Olympic history, and a lot of NHL rejects made
the 3 teams that medalled. He'll need seasoning, though long term he
could be the best of draft.
> someone who genuinely wants to make a deal). And considering some of the
> other talent in the Sharks system, I think that we can look forward to some
> very good teams in the next few years.
That's fine, but the Sharks have a chance *this* year to show how good they
are.
-mre
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 16:28 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 19:24:59 EST
Subject: Detroit Trade
I just heard that the Red Wings and Jets have completed the long-rumored
trade :
Bob Essensa & Sergei Bautin to Detroit for
Tim Cheveldae & Dallas Drake
As the current #8 seed, we will likely play Detroit in the playoffs, so this
is significant to us as well as making the Wings a solid favorite for the Cup
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 17:00 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:30:33 -0800 (PST)
From: a Shark in Duck-infested waters
Subject: Leafs or Wings?
Someone posted a message hoping that the Sharks would move up farther
than eighth in the playoff race in order to avoid Detroit (Sorry, my mail
program seems to have trouble with the "reply" function). Although the
Wings just today traded to get Essensa from the Jets, it is possible that
the Wings may slip to number two while the Sharks move up to number
seven!
I'd like to get some opinions on who everyone would rather see as the
Sharks' opponents in the first round and why. I'd rather see them face
the Leafs. The Leafs seem to have a tougher time against the more
defensive-oriented teams out there (i.e. Anaheim (!!) , Montreal, etc.)
and that if the Sharks can play strong defensively, they have a chance to
make a good showing.
One last request, does anyone have the current stats for the Sharks
players? I'm also interested in the stats of players currently in the
minors (i.e. Otevrel, Sykora) while they were with the Sharks. Can
anybody mail something?
Adios for now,
|\ |\ |\ |\
________| \____________| \_____________| \________________| \________
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Loren Taylor
"a Shark in Duck-infested waters" Physics rules at:
(email@hidden) University of California, Irvine!!
Go Sharks!! Go Arturs Irbe! Sergei Makarov rules!!
Go Kings!! HRUUUUUUUUUUDEY!! May the Great One play 4ever!
Go Flames!! Go Joe Nieuwendyk!!
Professor A. A. Maradudin-ism:
"Oh my friend, how could you be SO wrong!"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 18:21 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Keith Wandry)
Subject: Tickets Needed for 3/20
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:19:41 -13165615 (PST)
Well, my 8 year old son loved his first game so much (Sharks 4 Kings 3)
that he came back home and convinced my 6 year old daughter that
she wants to go. (my son never left his seat (except to cheer) from the time
we got there half hour before the game until we left - must have a bladder
the size of a waterbed...) Anyway, so now I need 3 or 4 tickets for the 3/20
game against the Kings. If anyone has any they wish to sell, please give
me a call, I'd greatly appreciate it!
Keith
(h) 408 364-1617
(w) 408 559-5310
or e-mail:
email@hidden (though we have had some problems recently...)
Thanks!
Rolland - send me some mail - I lost your last piece...
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 22:52 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Leafs or Wings? (fwd)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:50:27 -0800 (PST)
a Shark in Duck-infested waters writes:
> Someone posted a message hoping that the Sharks would move up farther
> than eighth in the playoff race in order to avoid Detroit (Sorry, my mail
> program seems to have trouble with the "reply" function). Although the
> Wings just today traded to get Essensa from the Jets, it is possible that
> the Wings may slip to number two while the Sharks move up to number
> seven!
Actually, they will not slip to #2; if they slip, they slip to #3. (The new
playoffs struck dictates that the team that wins a division is seeded at
least #2, so the Calgary Flames, who appear to have a lock on the Pacific
Division title (and, in one of the corniest manuevers I've seen by Gary
Bettman, the "Smythe Bowl") will be #2. So, These are the Sharks possible
opponents (I'm staying somewhat optimistic; the Sharks still have a long shot
at #6/#7 (Chicago and Vancouver are very close):
Detroit (#1 vs. #8; #3 vs. #6)
Toronto (#1 vs. #8; #3 vs. #6)
Calgary (#2 vs. #7)
>
> I'd like to get some opinions on who everyone would rather see as the
> Sharks' opponents in the first round and why. I'd rather see them face
> the Leafs. The Leafs seem to have a tougher time against the more
> defensive-oriented teams out there (i.e. Anaheim (!!) , Montreal, etc.)
> and that if the Sharks can play strong defensively, they have a chance to
> make a good showing.
I'd rather see Toronto, but if the Sharks can move up, I'd love to see Calgary.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 22:55 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:53:45 -0800 (PST)
Mike Eisler writes:
> > get Kariya, we'll be getting Kozlov (assuming he fires his agent and hires
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's doubtful that we'll get him this year, and even more doubtful that
> he'll have an immediate impact. He wasn't even good enough to make the
> worst Russian team in Olympic history, and a lot of NHL rejects made
> the 3 teams that medalled. He'll need seasoning, though long term he
> could be the best of draft.
About Kozlov: I have the feeling that it wasn't that he wasn't good enough to
make the team; it's that Viktor Tikhonov had no intention of helping the
Sharks develop him further by putting him on the Olympic team; if my memory
serves, the Russian Olympic team didn't have a lot of players who were drafted
by NHL teams. Maybe Tikhonov just wanted to give players that he think he'll
have in 4 years some experience? (Of course, there are rumors that Tikhonov
is on the way out...)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 8 23:21 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 23:19:29 -0800
From: Nelson Lu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Sharks tie Sabres 4-4 (OT)
Tuesday, March 8, 7:30 P. M., at the San Jose Arena:
The Sharks victimized Buffalo backup goaltender Grant Fuhr, getting a spot
start, early, as they scored 4 goals on just 9 shots against him, although he
didn't get a lot of help from his defense on most of those shots. The Sabres,
though, were inspired by Dominik Hasek, who entered at 7:24 of the 2nd period
in relief of Fuhr, and overcame a 2-goal deficit to tie the game at 4, as Hasek
stopped all 12 San Jose shots that he faced. Arturs Irbe did not have a very
strong game, but was not that bad, as he stopped 24 of 28 Buffalo shots and
came up with several saves late in regulation to preserve the tie.
Both teams were aggressive offensively in the first period, more so than the
shot count (9-7 Buffalo) indicated, and there were a number of good chances by
both teams, resulting in 2 goals on each side. The Sharks struck first at
2:30, as Jeff Norton got a pass at center ice on the left boards from Igor
Larionov, skated in on a 2-on-2 with Johan Garpenlov, slipped a pass over to
Garpenlov and then deflected the return pass from Garpenlov past Fuhr. The
Sabres then chopped off the 1-0 lead at 4:45, when Wayne Presley came into the
Sharks zone with the puck and caught it in his skates, but the puck bounced
over to Dave Hannan, who skated in on the net and put the puck through traffic
past Irbe. (The Sharks argued that Presley, who was in front of the net,
interfered with Irbe, but referee Dave Walkom did not call for a review.) The
Sharks went ahead again at 11:41, as Pat Falloon stole an intended clearing
pass, skated to the right side of the net, and slipped a centering pass to
Ray Whitney, whose one-timer was stopped by Fuhr, but Falloon then skated to
the front of the net, knocked the rebound down, turned around, and back-handed
the shot (with his back to the net) under Fuhr into the net. The Sabres tied
the game just 19 seconds later, though. Derek Plante got an outlet pass from
Doug Bodger, and skated down the left side and let go a severe angle shot that
went wide, but Donald Audette then tapped the puck past a surprised Irbe.
A give-away by Alexander Mogilny (who would, however, later atone for this)
allowed the Sharks to get the lead back at 2:01 of the 2nd period, in which
the Sabres out-shot the Sharks 7-6. Mogilny was in the right corner in his
own zone, and as he attempted to break out, lost the puck to a fore-checking
Gaetan Duchense, who skated past Richard Smehlik and put a shot through the
legs of Fuhr for the goal. The lead became 4-2 at 7:24, when the Sharks were
on power-play, as Todd Elik got an outlet pass from Jeff Norton, skated up ice,
split through two defensemen, and put a shot past Fuhr, prompting Fuhr's
departure and Hasek's entrance. The Sabres would slice into the Sharks lead
with a goal at 12:27, with a 2-man advantage. Yuri Khmylev had the puck deep
in the left corner, and he sent it back out to Dale Hawerchuk, who then put
it into the crease for Mogilny to one-time past Irbe.
The play was fairly even for most of the third period, but a controversial
call near the end gave the Sabres a long power-play, as soon after Ray Whitney
went to the box for interference, Bob Errey was called for a double-minor for
high-sticking Hawerchuk, and the Sabres capitalized on the ensuing 2-man
advantage. Audette got a pass deep in the left corner from Hawerchuk, and
tried to put it on goal, but it went through the crease and bounced to Mogilny,
who slipped past Irbe to tie the game. Irbe, though, would make 3 saves in
the final minute to send the game into overtime.
Neither team really had much going in overtime, with the Sharks having the
only two shots in the 5-minute period thanks to a (not very good looking)
power-play, and the teams finished with a tie and continued their respective
unbeaten streaks (5 games for Buffalo, 3 games for San Jose).
Tonight's three stars:
1. Jeff Norton
2. Alexander Mogilny
3. Todd Elik
(I would have it something like Mogilny, Hasek, Falloon.)
Tonight's lines:
Johan Garpenlov Igor Larionov Sergei Makarov
Gaetan Duchense Todd Elik Pat Falloon
Bob Errey Jamie Baker Jeff Odgers
Ray Whitney Rob Gaudreau
Tonight's defensive pairings:
Jeff Norton Sandis Ozolinsh
Tom Pederson Doug Zmolek
Vlastimil Kroupa Jayson More Shawn Cronin
Scratches: Jimmy Waite (knee), Mike Rathje (knee), Viacheslav Butsayev,
Dale Craigwell, Mike Lalor. (In an interesting sequence, Rathje was
announced to be sent down for reconditioning, but that move was later
rescinded, and Rathje stayed on the San Jose roster.)
Notes:
1. You might as well call Walkom "Wack 'em," as he (early in the game)
allowed both sides to get away with murder, essentially. He tried to
regain some sort of control later, but was very inconsistent. On the
Errey call, Errey deserved 4 minutes, yes... But Craig Muni had,
a couple minutes ago, gotten just 2 minutes for something that was
much worse (it looked like 5+game misconduct from here).
2. Fuhr is done, period. If John Muckler really goes with Fuhr instead
of Hasek in the playoffs, expect the Sabres to hang it up in 4 games.
3. And really, there is more and more dislike that I am getting with
Errey. He has shown himself to be chippy, which can be good at times,
but he appears to be losing his discipline, which is not a good sign.
He also appears to think of himself as the most important guy on the
team, as during his postgame interview I don't feel that he was giving
credit to Sergei Makarov at all. I hope that I am mistaken, but I
don't think he looks like the leader that the Sharks want.
===============================================================================
"How many shoes can Shuchuk chuck if Shuchuk could chuck shoes?"
GO MIGHTY DUCKS OF ANAHEIM! Go for playoffs! Alexei Kasatonov for Norris!
GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs! Jason Arnott for Calder!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (email@hidden)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 03:20 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 03:20:02 PST
Mike Eisler writes:
>>> get Kariya, we'll be getting Kozlov (assuming he fires his agent and hires
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>It's doubtful that we'll get him this year, and even more doubtful that
>>he'll have an immediate impact. He wasn't even good enough to make the
>>worst Russian team in Olympic history, and a lot of NHL rejects made
>>the 3 teams that medalled. He'll need seasoning, though long term he
>>could be the best of draft.
>About Kozlov: I have the feeling that it wasn't that he wasn't good enough to
>make the team; it's that Viktor Tikhonov had no intention of helping the
>Sharks develop him further by putting him on the Olympic team; if my memory
>serves, the Russian Olympic team didn't have a lot of players who were drafted
>by NHL teams. Maybe Tikhonov just wanted to give players that he think he'll
>have in 4 years some experience?
Not only that, but Kozlov chose to play for Dynamo Moscow instead of Tikhonov.
Some have speculated that Tikhonov was getting even.
Someone in the Sharks organization (Lombardi?) said that Kozlov was not on
the Olympic team because of "bad politics" between Dymano Moscow and Tikhonov.
In Russia, Kozlov is a national hero. He is generally considered to be the
most talented player in Russia today. To say he "couldn't make the olympic
team" is not fair at all, and rather misleading.
If you ask a typical Russian hockey fan about Kozlov, they usually say that
he is the next Mario Lemieux. Whether that's true or not is unclear, but it
shows the esteem in which they hold him.
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 07:58 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 07:59:13 PST
From: email@hidden (Jonathan-M. Wright)
Subject: Referee seeks employment
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am willing to make the commitment of
offering my employment services to last night's referee Steve Walkom. After
last night's performance, he surely will seeks new avenues of advancement.
I was lucky enought to be in attendance to the game, and I must tell you that
I have never seen such a sad spectacle! On many occasions, it seemed as though
the ref had lost(swallowed?) his whistle on ovbious Buffalo penalties, only to
find it again when the Sharks did something naughty. This was particularly
blatent on the two extra penalties called giving the Sabers 2, two-man
advantages(which they, of course, capitalized on). In my opinion, if better
officiating had taken place, the Sharks would have won the game.......Anyway,
it also seemed to me that the penalty called in overtime against the Sabers
(almost un-heard of) was a make-up call. Mabye Steve(the ref) felt he should
compensate the Sharks for calling a crappy game, or mabye he was inspired by
the excellent penalty-killing that Sharks did in the last 3 or so minutes of
regulation.........Who really knows?
My three stars of the game:
1.Jeff Norton - for skating great the whole game!
2.Doug Zmolnek - for playing great defense, and not taking any guff!!!
3.The fan who threw the empty water bottle on the ice - only problem though,
it was not filled with water, and missed the ref. entirely........
Thanks for reading---
Jonathan (email@hidden)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 08:25 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:23:58 -0800
From: email@hidden (Brian Bechtel)
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>I don't know about the rest of you, but I am willing to make the commitment of
>offering my employment services to last night's referee Steve Walkom. After
>last night's performance, he surely will seeks new avenues of advancement.
I think Kevin Constantine and Bill King (sports announcer on KLIV 1590)
said it best. Kevin said he'd comment on the officiating to any newscaster
willing to pay his fines. Bill King noticed that no one ever gets fined
for saying something _good_ about the officiating...
Clearly a new low in officiating this season. I personally think that one
of the biggest things holding back the NHL from joining the ranks of other
major sports in North America is the lack of consistent officiating. It's
a joke.
--Brian Bechtel email@hidden "My opinion, not Apple's"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 08:39 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 11:36:25 EST
Subject: Kings
Anyone know if the Kings game is on ESPN2 or anywhere else on TV tonight?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 08:58 PST 1994
Date: 9 Mar 1994 08:44:03 -0800
From: "Mike Hedblom"
Subject: Sign at the game
Sign at the game
All the signs last night were great! (Loved the "Like a frieght train. Choo!
Choo!", and the "Buffalo wings"). But I think the best was the small sign
that said: "PLAY 'OVs"
(i.e., Garpenlov, Makarov, Larinov, Oslishov, Nortonov, & Irbe)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 08:59 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:59:07 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: What a game!
>The Ducks, Jets, Oilers and Kings!?! Those are weak teams this year that I
>expect the Sharks to play hard and at least keep up with if not beat. The
>possible exception is LA since they can be very difficult if their offense
>is on.
The Kings were in the final last year.
I guess it's all in the attitude. Some folks view the glass as half full.
Some complain because it's not Waterford. I prefer to see how far we've come
and how much we've blown away early-season expectations. I'm not upset that
we aren't a Cup Contender at all, because it's an unreasonable expectation.
I just keep looking at the Senators and thanking the Sharks for not being
them.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 08:59:33 PDT
Subject: Re: PHA questions/hockey equipment
> Equipment:
> More on the general level, where's a good place to get good equipment at
> a decent price? What should I expect to shell out to get decked out?
>Really depends on how serious you are. Expect to spend between $500 and
>$1500, or $1000 to $2500 if you are a goalie. You can spend a lot less or
>alot more.
>Eastridge generally has the best prices, but doesn't have the best prices.
>Power Play hockey is another place to go. They are not as cheap, but they
>have a good stock. Mail order is another option if you know exactly what
>you want and have tried them out in a local store.
For good mail order service try Doug & Tom Reid Sports Centre, (416) 871-7721.
they are in Fort Erie, Ontario, but ship from Buffalo so there is no duty.
Another possibility is Simmons Sportshop, (416) 871-6913 although I have never
bought anything from them. Doug and Tom Reid have a great selection of goalie
equipment as well including Brown, Vaughn and Heaton. If you know what you
want it can save you a lot of money. I just priced forward equipment for a
friend and the total cost for decent equipment (Cooper, Bauer, etc.) was only
~$375 (sans sticks) ($100 of that is skates).
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:01 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:00:53 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Makarov's Award
>I agree, there does seem to be, at least an "inequity" in the highlights,
>although frankly a team with few outright superstars is less likely to be
>ESPN friendly.
It was interesting. Pre-game, the Hockey Week clip was the five goals of the
week. Two of them were Blackhawks. And while all of them were pretty, Sergei
himself had a couple that blew away all of them in the last couple of weeks.
Go figure.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:02 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 09:00:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
An opinion:
"My three stars of the game:
1.Jeff Norton - for skating great the whole game!
2.Doug Zmolnek - for playing great defense, and not taking any guff!!!
3.The fan who threw the empty water bottle on the ice - only problem though,
it was not filled with water, and missed the ref. entirely........"
Giving stars to any defenceman last night would be a travesty. Too many
blue jerseys were left alone by Arturs. Mogilny actually had time to
open up a lawn chair, order a pizza, and enjoy a good book waiting for
that pass. Three times he camped right by the left pipe unmolested.
Pederson failed to remove him despite frantic screams by Arturs. The
game was won, until the defence left the ice early.
Norton missed an assignment on several occasions, although he did have
one of his better games. Ozolinsh is pinching in more and more, but
nobody is covering his assignment, and we had many pucks skip out of the
offensive zone because of it. Zmolek didn't take any guff, as you say,
but he sure didn't dish out as much as he took. I had him losing both
fights.
The Sharks were lucky to get one point out of the game; they clearly did
not have the same intensity we saw on Sunday.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:07 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:06:39 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: refs on notice
>Does anyone out there have the Shark's Penalty-Minutes/Game numbers before
>and after this crackdown by the Ref's?
We still are the least penalized team in the league. I tend to think that it
didn't affect us as much as some casual pundits might think. We had a couple
of bad games, but I think it was coincidental to the change. We just had a
mini-slump.
Even if it wasn't coincidental, we seem to have made the adjustment to it
VERY quickly, since we're back on the positive ways we need to make the
playoffs. Compared to the struggles Florida is having, it's encouraging.
I honestly don't think the Sharks are that dependent on the kind of defense
the league was complaining about in this, the center-trap full of off-puck
picks and clutch&grab. We did that early in the season, but we've grown
beyond it. We're still doing a strong center-ice defense, but I just don't
see the kind of muggings you see with some of the other teams, so I don't
think it affects us as much as some might think.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:34 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:34:28 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
>About Kozlov: I have the feeling that it wasn't that he wasn't good enough to
>make the team; it's that Viktor Tikhonov had no intention of helping the
>Sharks develop him further by putting him on the Olympic team; if my memory
>serves, the Russian Olympic team didn't have a lot of players who were drafted
>by NHL teams. Maybe Tikhonov just wanted to give players that he think he'll
>have in 4 years some experience? (Of course, there are rumors that Tikhonov
>is on the way out...)
there was a fair amount written about this earlier in the season when the
Sharks were grappling with getting Koslov drafted and signed. Koslov had a
bad season last year at least in part because he was being jerked around by
his team. Why? Because the Russians were trying to set things up so that
most of his NHL contract would go to his team, not to Koslov himself (what
happened to Larionov in Vancouver, FWIW). Koslov fought them the whole way,a
nd so his playing time and support were seriously mucked with. A conscious
effort on the part of the Russians to screw him over in the NHL draft.
Vindictive.
And ever since, he's been jerked around. He didn't make the Olympics not
because of lack of talent, but because the Russians went in a more
'youthful' direction -- i.e. they decided they simply werne't going to
showccase NHL talent, but play kids that were going to stay in their system.
Koslov, who'd fought rather hard to stay in Russia so he could play for his
country when he COULD have signed with the Sharks early, was snubbed, again,
it seems, in retribution, especially since he'd been led to believe all
along that he'd go to Lillehammer until pretty much the last minute. If
they'd said early that he wouldn't be going, he probably would have signed
with us early and been over here most of the season. Again, jerked around.
Me, I feel kinda sorry for the kid. I certainly don't like being jerked
around like that, and it can't be fun. On the positive side, only the Sharks
saw through the manipulations last year (thanks to Grillo's scouting) adn
realized what was going on and didn't let it affect their view of his
talents. As a result, we got Koslov AND Makarov AND Kroupa in the draft.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 09:34 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Albert Lin)
Subject: "unsubscribe"
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:32:48 -40962758 (PST)
Please take me off the mailing list.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:01 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:00:15 -0800
"Re: What a game!" (Mar 8, 11:41am)
Subject: Re: What a game!
On Mar 8, 11:41am, Mike Eisler wrote:
>
> That's fine, but the Sharks have a chance *this* year to show how good they
> are.
My point is that they really aren't that good, making the playoffs and
sweeping the Ducks notwithstanding. They still have a long way to go.
Come back with the puffed chest when they win an improved Pacific division.
Finishing eight by beating out weak and injured teams just isn't a lot to
crow about.
-- a
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:04 PST 1994
Date: 9 Mar 94 09:58:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: Notes on Sabres game
1) Nelson, if you think Irbe had an off night, you missed the last
five minutes of the game. The saves he made during that LONG shorthanded
stretch were amazing. If Wackum hadn't been intent on giving Buffalo 5-3
advantages, it would have been a 4-2 Sharks win and we would all be saying how
great Irbe was.
2) Zmolek lost the second fight badly because his hand was a royal
mess from the first fight. He appeared to cut his hand on May
(I think it was May) equipment, probably his helmet. During the first 5 minute
penalty, Zmolek sat in the box with a towel wrpapped around his hand, and it
was getting pretty red.
3) Fuhr may be toast, but where did Elik learn to skate through
people like that? His goal amazing; as the red light went on, there were
three Sabres, including Fuhr, lying on the ice in the crease. Laurie, did
you get a picture of that?
4) There's nothing I hate more than listening to people whine about
poor officiating, and claiming that the ref stole the game from us because
he hates us... but in this case, I'll make an exception because I agree.
Walkom was unbelievable. The guy who reffed the peewee scrimmage while looking
up at the rafters was better than this!
5) Despite the officiating, the Sharks would have won if they hadn't
gone into a shell for most of the third period. The power play unit in
particular looked truly sorry. They were being outshot by Buffalo while WE
had the man advantage. Would someone who understands hockey better than I
do explain how we give up a 2 on 0 rush to a shorthanded team?? (Irbe's save
on this one was fantastic; see item 1).
6) Buffalo fans suck. Are they just trying to prove that they can
make it to the Super Bowl of hockey and lose there also?
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:04 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:03:07 -0800
"Re: What a game! (fwd)" (Mar 8, 10:53pm)
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
On Mar 8, 10:53pm, Nelson Lu wrote:
> it's that Viktor Tikhonov had no intention of helping the
> Sharks develop him further by putting him on the Olympic team;
I could believe this. I could also believe that Tikhonov doesn't like
the Sharks a whole lot, after all, they gave jobs (and apparently new
life to) a couple of players who have a long, ugly history with him.
-- a
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:13 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:11:55 -0800
"Re: What a game!" (Mar 9, 8:59am)
email@hidden
Subject: Re: What a game!
On Mar 9, 8:59am, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
> I'm not upset that
> we aren't a Cup Contender at all, because it's an unreasonable expectation.
> I just keep looking at the Senators and thanking the Sharks for not being
> them.
>
I'm not mad either, in fact, I'm very pleased as a Sharks fan.
However, I really, really HATE woofing. Admittedly there's a temptation
to woof after a blow-out like the Anaheim game, but I try to keep things
in perspective.
-- a
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:14 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Tickets wanted for 3/20
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:12:32 PST
Hi Everyone,
A friend of mine is looking for tickets for the Kings game on the 20th.
If you are interested in selling tickets, you can reach him at:
Pat Mahoney
(408) 447-6925,
email - email@hidden
BTW, he wants these tickets to use, not to re-sell (the 20th game is sold
out).
Thanks!
Craig
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:27 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 13:24:24 EST
Subject: PHA Hockey
Daryll worte about all of the virtues of PHA Hockey, and I agree with most
everything he said, I guess you could sum it up with:
1)The best rinks
2) the best ice times
3) officiating as poor as the NHL, so you get a real "fantasy camp" feel
4)safety (although I seem to get hurt every week, but i think that is
genetic)
You should stay after a Sharks game at the Arena and watch a PHA game (there
is almost always one scheduled) or go out to Ice Centre and catch one of the
lower division games to get an idea of how the play goes.
It is great fun and I am not sure what else I had to obsess about before....
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:33 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:33:18 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Sharks tie Sabres 4-4 (OT)
>The Sharks victimized Buffalo backup goaltender Grant Fuhr, getting a spot
>start, early, as they scored 4 goals on just 9 shots against him, although he
>didn't get a lot of help from his defense on most of those shots. The Sabres,
>though, were inspired by Dominik Hasek, who entered at 7:24 of the 2nd period
>in relief of Fuhr, and overcame a 2-goal deficit to tie the game at 4, as Hasek
>stopped all 12 San Jose shots that he faced.
Collins made an interesting post-game comment: the Sabres KNOW Fuhr will
stand on his head, and so the defense gets very aggressive and doesn't worry
so much about protecting him. When they put in Hasek, they know they have to
be more controlled on defense and tend to settle down and play a more
conservative game.
Beyond that, it's clear that Fuhr isn't what he used to be, and is now the
#2 goalie. That's something I (and I'm sure lots of others) have trouble
remembering, given his past, but last night, it showed.
>Arturs Irbe did not have a very
>strong game, but was not that bad, as he stopped 24 of 28 Buffalo shots and
>came up with several saves late in regulation to preserve the tie.
I thought Arturs had a good, strong game. The first goal he was completely
screened by both a Sabre and a Shark standing in his face (said shark
attempting to remove said Sabre) when another Sabre shoved it through the
traffic under people's feet. At that, Irbe STILL saw it and almost got it.
The second goal was a nasty defensive breakdown by Whitney and Kroupa
(Kroupa had his lunch eaten by Mogilny on a regular basis last night. Call
it a learning experience. I think later in the game he started adjusting,
but it was a tough assignment for the kid). He let up two more goals on 5-3
situations (actually, 6-3: we beat the Sabres. We could only TIE the Sabres
AND the ref). He made some killer saves late.
That's not exactly letting beachballs through. Of the four he gave up, MAYBE
he could have gotten the first. Maybe.
>Both teams were aggressive offensively in the first period, more so than the
>shot count (9-7 Buffalo) indicated, and there were a number of good chances by
The shot counter was drinking the same coffee as Walkom was. One of the
Sharks first period goals wasn't even called a shot. Both teams were
under-counted by at least 6-8 shots last night, and both teams had
legitimate shots on goal in overtime that weren't counted.
>(The Sharks argued that Presley, who was in front of the net,
>interfered with Irbe, but referee Dave Walkom did not call for a review.)
To use the term "referee" in the same sentence with "Dave Walkom" is a
mistake. That was the worst called game this year by a long shot. Both sides
have legitimate gripes with him, but the Sharks really got screwed.
>Neither team really had much going in overtime, with the Sharks having the
>only two shots in the 5-minute period thanks to a (not very good looking)
>power-play, and the teams finished with a tie and continued their respective
>unbeaten streaks (5 games for Buffalo, 3 games for San Jose).
The official shot-count was 0-0. My shot count was 2-1.
>Tonight's three stars:
>
>1. Jeff Norton
>2. Alexander Mogilny
>3. Todd Elik
>(I would have it something like Mogilny, Hasek, Falloon.)
Mogilny dserved a star. Hasek? nah. Norton had a good game. Falloon had a
pretty good game, but I would have given third start to Gaetan, or perhaps
Jamie Baker.
>Scratches: Jimmy Waite (knee),
Jimmy Waite, according to an unnamed source down in the tunnel I talked to,
had his knee done. In fact, he was up in 118 for most of the game on
crutches, then down in the tunnel after the game.
The unnamed source had a couple of interesting comments I'll pass along,
which is why he's staying unnamed. First, he specifically said "They fixed
Jimmy's knee", as opposed to correcting the problem. Second, when I asked
him if they were going to send Jimmy down to K.C. for conditioning, he
hesitated for a second, and then said "Probably not, because the Blades are
trying to make the playoffs".
Cogitate about the implications of that for a minute. I probably don't have
to explain. It looks like the Blades will go with Ryder and Saurdiff for
now, and get Flats back when Jimmy gets off crutches and can sit on the
bench here in San Jose.
>1. You might as well call Walkom "Wack 'em," as he (early in the game)
> allowed both sides to get away with murder, essentially.
Jeez, I've seen cleaner games in the Australian Rules football leagues. The
teams were playing hockey. Walkom was reffing rugby. It was pitiful. Our
part of the arena started up a pretty decent "we want Shick" chant for a
while, which we KNOW Walkom heard. So did a bunch of other folks, and some
of the players. (you can tell who the regulars are. They were yelling the
chant. The casual fans were staring at us wondering what in the hell we were
babbling. I also offended a couple of people with a "C'mon Whitney, bleed!"
yell after the high-stick, and a muttered "Where's craigwell when you need
him?" heh).
>3. And really, there is more and more dislike that I am getting with
> Errey. He has shown himself to be chippy, which can be good at times,
> but he appears to be losing his discipline, which is not a good sign.
Hmm. For all his strengths, he has some shortcomings as well. I view Gaetan
as the real leader on the club, both by example and as the motivator. He was
in Walkom's face ALL night. At one point, they were in the faceoff circle
chatting, and Duke said something and then made a gesture at his eyes -- the
context being obvious: "if you opened your eyes...". That Walkom TOOK as
much abuse from players without letters attached is an indication that he,
too, knew this wasn't a night for the demo tape.
I'd like to disagree with what Nelson says here, but I find I'm having
trouble doing so. I think I'll think about it a bit.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 10:51 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:50:09 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>I have never seen such a sad spectacle! On many occasions, it seemed as though
>the ref had lost(swallowed?) his whistle on ovbious Buffalo penalties, only to
>find it again when the Sharks did something naughty.
Oh, but the Sharks got away with their share of naughty, too. The problem
wasn't Walkom not blowing down calls, but simply not SEEING them. He was
constantly out of position and looking in the wrong direction, adn you can't
call what you can't see.
Lowlight in the naughty world for the Sharks was Whitney, who at one point
looked around, saw Walkom staring off into the distance again, and made a
quick attempt at a splenectomy on a Sabres (that's called spearing, Ray. I
know what the Sabre called Ray immediately after, but I can't put it on a
family network).
>Anyway,
>it also seemed to me that the penalty called in overtime against the Sabers
>(almost un-heard of) was a make-up call.
I wondered about that myself. Given what he let go, it was a rather strange
call.
>2.Doug Zmolnek - for playing great defense, and not taking any guff!!!
Decent game, but he got stomped twice by May. it wasn't even close.
>3.The fan who threw the empty water bottle on the ice - only problem though,
> it was not filled with water, and missed the ref. entirely........
Nope. Sorry. I refuse to accept that throwing stuff is EVER, EVER
acceptable. It was a bogus, brain-dead thing to do. Period. That's how
people get badly hurt.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:06 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 11:05:47 PDT
Subject: Re: Hockey equipment
>For good mail order service try Doug & Tom Reid Sports Centre, (416) 871-7721.
>they are in Fort Erie, Ontario, but ship from Buffalo so there is no duty.
>Another possibility is Simmons Sportshop, (416) 871-6913 although I have never
>bought anything from them. Doug and Tom Reid have a great selection of goalie
>equipment as well including Brown, Vaughn and Heaton. If you know what you
>want it can save you a lot of money. I just priced forward equipment for a
>friend and the total cost for decent equipment (Cooper, Bauer, etc.) was only
>~$375 (sans sticks) ($100 of that is skates).
Sorry about the mixup on the phone number for Doug & Tom Reid Sports, that
number is also used as their fax line. The voice only line is (416) 871-2381.
They will be closed until this Friday (I don't know why). James Nakamura also
let me know that Simmons Sportshop only sells goalie equipment by mail order,
sorry I'm a goalie so I didn't know about the limitation.
George Morris
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:12 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:10:09 -0800
From: email@hidden (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
Brian Bechtel writes:
>
>I think Kevin Constantine and Bill King (sports announcer on KLIV 1590)
>said it best. Kevin said he'd comment on the officiating to any newscaster
>willing to pay his fines. Bill King noticed that no one ever gets fined
>for saying something _good_ about the officiating...
I wonder what the fines would be....I'd be willing to throw in $20 of my *hard*
earned money to hear this. Maybe we can get a pool going at the Islander game.
>Clearly a new low in officiating this season. I personally think that one
>of the biggest things holding back the NHL from joining the ranks of other
>major sports in North America is the lack of consistent officiating. It's
>a joke.
There was nothing funny about Walkom last night. This guy made Shick and
McGeough look like Einstein out there. It seemed that he forgot everything
that was in the NHL rule book. He even broke the unsaid rule and called a
rather trivial penalty in OT.
That had to be the worst officiating I've every seen...at any level, high
school, college, NHL, PHA, HNA....
The thing that frosts me is NOTHING will happen with this guy. Last nights
game is more than enough reason to bring on the two ref system.
Bill (still in disbelief)
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Bill St. Croix Detroit Red Wings #1
Email: email@hidden San Jose Sharks #2
"The Spectacular" San Jose Arena 104-24-3/4 Michigan Football #3
Rob Zettler Fan Club, San Jose Chapter Philadelphia Flyers #4?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:20 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:17:27 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Playoff Schedule?
Bah! Deleted that most-useful message containing the playoff
schedule...can someone email it to me...again?
thx
gak (not so much a butterfinger as a butterbrain)
209/15/19&20
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:21 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:19:19 PST
From: email@hidden (Gary Merrick)
Subject: standing in front of the goal
Why is it that many other teams have players which can stand right
in front of their attacking goal when the puck is inside the blue
line, while the Sharks' ability to do this is virtually non-existant?
I had the opportunity of being able to sit down low just behind
the goal Irbe defended 2 out of the 3 periods, and noticed how
Buffalo really tried to have one of their players standing right
in front of the crease as much as possible. It seemed to have very
nasty effects upon the Sharks' defense: Irbe appeared frustrated to
have him there, as did the one or two defenders in the immediate
vicinity. Being screened doesn't help either.
I also noticed that the Sharks' defense did very little to get 'em
the hell out of there. A little poke here, and the occasional shove
there, but it had almost no effect. Were the defense concerned about
picking up yet another penalty? The offending player didn't appear
to be particularly large, but it's hard to tell when they're crouched
down waiting for a stray puck.
I've noticed that Odgers will occasionally try to park himself near
the crease of the attacking goal, but usually either gets shoved out,
or ends up leaving to help his teammates in other areas.
Gary
PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! PIZZA!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:38 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:38:39 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: ESPN (was Makarov's Award)
> >Hmm. When will I be able to watch the Sharks play on ESPN?
>
> Next year. ESPN is oriented strongly towards the east coast prime time start
> time, which means ALL the west coast teams get short shrift.
Definitely so.
> ... These things are done WAY in advance, so it's hard to move around
> the schedule late. You make your best guesses efore the season starts.
Actually, ESPN recently decided to change their remaining 1993-94
schedule, although I still didn't see any Sharks games there.
In a related situation, CBC (Canadian) said they were going to broadcast the
Sharks-Calgary game this coming Saturday, but then changed their minds to
Winnipeg-Toronto. (Their other game is Philly at Montreal.)
So no, these things are not set into concrete way in advance. If the
Sharks do make a run at Vancouver, it wouldn't surprise me to see ESPN
or CBC pick up one or more of the three SJ-Vancouver games that we
play in the last 11 days of the season.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:42 PST 1994
From: email@hidden@helix.com
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:05:56 -0800
I saw this message a couple of days ago and said to myself, Nah, that
couldn't be. It must be a crazy rumor, BUT I found out the hard way
that it is somewhat true. Last night our team had the Arena ice after
the Buffalo game and I took a shower in the "other" locker room and it
took about 5 minutes for the water to get even luke-warm!
Dave
>
> Interesting comment I found on CompuServe
>
> I think I've figured out why the Sharks have been playing better on
> the road this year than ever before. According to an article in this
> morning's paper, the Sharks have to take cold showers after playing in
> the new *multi-million-dollar* San Jose Arena because there's no hot
> water in their showers due to some quirky plumbing problem. Does that
> take the prize or what?!! Personally, I think the general contractor
> (along with the plumbing subcontractor) should be taken out and shot.
> In the meantime, the players are no doubt tempted to avoid working up
> any kind of sweat out on the ice during home games, hoping to avoid
> the showers altogether! Devoted fan that I am, maybe I should offer
> them the use of *my* shower for the remainder of the season.
>
>
> ************************************************************************
> * Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
>
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 11:54 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:39:03 -0800
From: rossix!email@hidden (David Moore)
Subject: mailing list archives
Where can one find the monthly archives of the Sharks e-mail list??
Thanks in advance,
Dave
=======================================================
David A. Moore | Phone: (415) 593-2500
Ross Systems Inc. | E-mail: email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 12:14 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:11:52 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
> I could believe this. I could also believe that Tikhonov doesn't like
> the Sharks a whole lot, after all, they gave jobs (and apparently new
> life to) a couple of players who have a long, ugly history with him.
FYI, Tik's kid, Vasily is a Sharks assistant coach. I don't know if Tik
ever beat him up. You can say what you want about Tik, but I'll never
believe that he'd be so stupid to throw a gold medal away. The theory
that Tik wanted to stick with youth is interesting but what pray tell is
going to happen 4 years from now when those kids are old enough to play
in the NHL? Also, Koslov has had some lack luster performances in other
recent international tournaments.
If I'm coming off as trashing Koslov sorry. I just don't think he's
the second coming of WG or even just JC.
-mre
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 13:10 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: Re: SJ Arena Showers
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:52:20 -0800 (PST)
Andre Kvitka writes:
<...there's no hot water in the showers...personally, I
think the general contractor (along with the subcontractor)
should be taken out and shot..>
I knew it! Andre is KGB agent with double responsibility for
monitoring PC technology and the Latvians on the Sharks!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 13:24 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 16:21:10 EST
Subject: High Sticking
Can someone explain the difference between the high sticking to Whitney for 2
minutes and the high sticking done by Errey which resulted in a double-minor
for four minutes?
And did anyone notice the look on Whitneys face as hes sitting in the penalty
box with a bag of ice on his cheek when they put up the four minute penalty?
Rene - Blueline Fan #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 13:59 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:17:56 PST
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
On 9 Mar 94, Archer Sully wrote (Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)):
> I could believe this. I could also believe that Tikhonov doesn't like
> the Sharks a whole lot, after all, they gave jobs (and apparently new
> life to) a couple of players who have a long, ugly history with him.
Like his son?
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 14:08 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 14:06:38 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Sharks tie Sabres 4-4 (OT)
Chuq says:
"Our part of the arena started up a pretty decent "we want Shick" chant for a
while, which we KNOW Walkom heard. So did a bunch of other folks, and some
of the players. (you can tell who the regulars are. They were yelling the
chant. The casual fans were staring at us wondering what in the hell we were
babbling. I also offended a couple of people with a "C'mon Whitney, bleed!"
yell after the high-stick, and a muttered "Where's craigwell when you need
him?" heh)."
If we had known you were chanting that, we would have joined in! Oh well.
Our section spent a lot of time yelling for Pederson and Kroupa to turn
around and do something about Mogilny. Watching the replays of his play
reminded me of the Diet Coke commercial from the olympics, where they
showed the super slo-mo of the US bobsled team, except we didn't need to
use super slo-mo to see Mogilny planting roots by the left post. I swear
I saw the Domino's guy deliver him a pizza on one shift!
Chuq continues:
"Hmm. For all his strengths, he has some shortcomings as well. I view Gaetan
as the real leader on the club, both by example and as the motivator. He was
in Walkom's face ALL night. At one point, they were in the faceoff circle
chatting, and Duke said something and then made a gesture at his eyes -- the
context being obvious: "if you opened your eyes...". That Walkom TOOK as
much abuse from players without letters attached is an indication that he,
too, knew this wasn't a night for the demo tape."
At one point Gaetan refused to go to the faceoff circle, preferring to
spend time jawing with the striped shirts. My wife made the comment
"He's not a captain, how can he get away with talking to the officials?"
to which I responded "The officials know they've screwed up all night
so they're cutting some slack".
If ever it was needed, last night was the night we needed Dieter to play
"Three Blind Mice".
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 14:33 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 14:34:02 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Black wreath for hockey statistics
Alas, the wonderful source of hockey statistics seems to be gone. Sigh.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 14:35 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 17:33:03 EST
Subject: Duchesne&Things
Chuq writes --
>... I view Gaetan
>as the real leader on the club, both by example and as the >motivator. He
was
>in Walkom's face ALL night. At one point, they were in the faceoff >circle
>chatting, and Duke said something and then made a gesture at his >eyes --
the
>context being obvious: "if you opened your eyes...". That Walkom >TOOK as
>much abuse from players without letters attached is an indication >that he,
>too, knew this wasn't a night for the demo tape.
I absoluteluy agree with this. I have grown to really respect the effort and
play of this guy, something I would have had trouble believing about a
fore-checking, penalty-killing forward. He puts it out all night every
night, and does so without bringing the Errey negatives (Too Chippy, leaves
his feet on hits, kind of cheap at times, etc.) I say give the "C" to the
Duke.
Also, I was unable to attend the game last night, but was able to peruse it
via SportsChannel and recorded it as well. A VERY interesting moment occured
while dale hawerchuk laid prone after the Errey high-stick call.
The camera zoomed in VERY tight as the trainer attending Hawerchuk appeared
to SCRAPE the mark on Dale's nose, which was not bleeding. I can only think
of one reason to scrape a contusion, and that would be to make it bleed
(resulting in a 5 minute major) Fortunately this ploy didn't work, but
Stephen Walkom dealt justice in his own style.
I have no proof, but it looked funny to my wife and I immediately.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 14:44 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 17:41:28 EST
Subject: Gartner a Shark???
Chek this tidbit from Associated Press out.... How would you like a 600 goal
scoring forward in Teal and Black?
Rangers have Gartner on the block?
(MAR 9) TSN - THE NEW YORK RANGERS MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF TRADING
RIGHT WING MIKE GARTNER, ONE OF THE N-H-L'S ALL-TIME LEADING GOAL
SCORERS. THE NEW YORK POST SAYS AN "UNIMPEACHABLE SOURCE"
CONFIRMED GENERAL MANAGER NEIL SMITH IS OFFERING THE 34-YEAR-OLD
FORWARD AROUND THE LEAGUE.
THE POST SAYS TEAMS MOST LIKELY INTERESTED IN THE SCORING
THAT GARTNER COULD SUPPLY INCLUDE CHICAGO, QUEBEC, FLORIDA, SAN
JOSE AND ANAHEIM.
GARTNER IS SIXTH ON THE RANGERS IN SCORING THIS SEASON WITH
27 GOALS AND 19 ASSISTS IN HIS 65 GAMES. HOWEVER, THE 15-YEAR
VETERAN HAS BEEN DROPPED TO THE TEAM'S THIRD LINE.
GARTNER IS TIED WITH BOBBY HULL FOR FIFTH ON THE N-H-L'S
CAREER GOALS LIST WITH 610. HE HAS SCORED AT LEAST 40 GOALS NINE
TIMES, INCLUDING ALL THREE OF HIS FULL SEASONS WITH NEW YORK, A
RANGERS' RECORD.
GARTNER, WHO ALSO SPENT 10 YEARS WITH WASHINGTON AND PARTS
OF TWO SEASONS WITH MINNESOTA, IS A SIX-TIME ALL-STAR GAME
SELECTION.
Transmitted: 94-03-09 12:58:00 EST
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 14:48 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 14:33:39 PST
From: email@hidden (Rob Eccles)
Subject: Re: [SHARKS] Tickets For Thursday NYI Game Available
The tickets have been sold.
Thanks for your interest.
Rob
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 15:15 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:13:31 -0500 (EST)
From: "M. Van ryswyck"
Subject: playoffs
After reading all about who the Sharks should face in the first round, I
would like to add something - I really don't care. The fact that San
Jose makes the playoffs will be a great accomplishment already. Who they
face in the first round isn't important. Accept for home-ice advantage,
there isn't any real advantages in the playoffs. Everybody begins at
ground zero and as we've seen in the past few years, underdogs can knock
off the favorites. If a team like Minnesota can make it to the finals
while having the worst record for a team making the playoffs, which did
occur three years ago, than who knows what to expect.
One worry, though. I agree that Detroit finally has some decent
goaltending since they picked up Essensa. Basically, Detroit should have
won the cup last year, but it's obvious the only reason Toronto was able
to beat Detroit first round last year was because Chevledae sucks! This
years playoffs could be very interesting this year.
|||
(. .)
----------------------------------------oOO--O--OOo---------
Mark Van Ryswyck
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 16:33 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 16:19:33 PST
From: kahului!email@hidden (Douglas J Whisler)
Subject: Re: Sharks tie Sabres 4-4 (OT)
>
> >Arturs Irbe did not have a very
> >strong game, but was not that bad, as he stopped 24 of 28 Buffalo shots and
> >came up with several saves late in regulation to preserve the tie.
>
> I thought Arturs had a good, strong game.
Ditto, IMO. Plus the karma fairy on our side a few times around the net.
Don't know if the upper-deck folks could see this, but there was one scramble
where the puck popped over Irbe into the middle of the crease, about 5" from
the line, *rolling*, and I think it was Pederson got to it first and threw
it out.
>
> To use the term "referee" in the same sentence with "Dave Walkom" is a
> mistake. That was the worst called game this year by a long shot. Both sides
> have legitimate gripes with him, but the Sharks really got screwed.
I chatted with Rich Muschell & his assistant between periods. The ass't
was particularly peeved, asking Rich "do you know where his car is? Do we
have an ice pick in the office?" and Rich was answering " uh, actually,
I do know where it's parked... but it's a rental". Ass't: "Then do you know
what his hotel is?" Rich: " uh, actually, I do. It's out at SF airport"
Ass't: "Can we call his room every hour all night?" Rich: "..."
(Aside - possibly a good sign, there, Rich muttered something about his
flights, thus implying that Walk-on went back to his regular W.W.F. city,
i.e., we'll have a real ref on Thurs)
>
> >1. You might as well call Walkom "Wack 'em," as he (early in the game)
> > allowed both sides to get away with murder, essentially.
>
> Jeez, I've seen cleaner games in the Australian Rules football leagues. The
> teams were playing hockey. Walkom was reffing rugby.
And after awhile, the players began playing rugby. Aside from the 2 fights,
we also have Makarov in 2 wrestling matches (no calls), More crosschecking
to his heart's content, and Whitney dispensing a genuine butt-end. (spearing
is with the blade end, chuq. butt-end with the other end. watch Slapshot
again.... ;) )
>
> I view Gaetan
> as the real leader on the club, both by example and as the motivator. He was
> in Walkom's face ALL night. At one point, they were in the faceoff circle
> chatting, and Duke said something and then made a gesture at his eyes -- the
> context being obvious: "if you opened your eyes...".
If this is the instance I think you're talking about (after the 4min high
stick call?) I have a differing interp. Walk-on was also gesturing at the
bridge of the nose, so it had something to do with why it was 4min instead
of 2min. (Or they were discussing contact lenses; who knows..)
>The thing that frosts me is NOTHING will happen with this guy. Last nights
>game is more than enough reason to bring on the two ref system.
>
> Bill (still in disbelief)
Never can tell. Also talked with an old MooDome acquaintence, a security/blue
coat, name's Francesco, I think. He tells me, 1. They threw out more people
last night (for throwing stuff) than ever before. and 2. There were NHL people
in attendance (All Star planning, etc.) last night, so they saw. (Yeah, OK
that's an assumption, that they could see any better than Walk-on.)
(He also told me about some Metalhead taking a header off the 2nd level at
the Scorpions concert. Hit somebody headfirst on the lower level, then the
concrete. Quite the mess, he said. Good thing he didn't throw his paper
cup, huh?)
- DW
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 16:51 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Tickets for Isles and Senators
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 16:54:16 PST
Gang,
Two tickets for each game, $38 seats
Section 117, Row 21, Seats 11-12, corner Sharks defend twice
Thursday, March 10 vs Islanders, 7:30 pm
Thursday, March 17 vs Senators, 7:30 pm
Page me at (408) 989-8163 if interested
Daryll
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 17:01 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Re: High Sticking
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 17:03:03 PST
> Can someone explain the difference between the high sticking to Whitney for 2
> minutes and the high sticking done by Errey which resulted in a double-minor
> for four minutes?
The Sabre player was a better actor :-) Seriously, I'm not sure why, but
the amazing thing about this penalty is that Walkom never say the penalty!
He turned around and saw the Sabres player down on the ice with his face
in his hands and then reaised his arm for a penalty call. There was no
Shark in the vicinity. He must have asked a linesman who he should call
the penalty on.
-Daryll
Sec 117, row 21, seats 11-12
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 17:16 PST 1994
From: "Archer Sully"
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:14:43 -0800
"Re: What a game! (fwd)" (Mar 9, 1:17pm)
Subject: Re: What a game! (fwd)
> > life to) a couple of players who have a long, ugly history with him.
>
> Like his son?
>
I was thinking of Igor, but I do wonder if Tikhanovs get along like
Sutters.
--a
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 18:05 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:28:59 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
> Oh, but the Sharks got away with their share of naughty, too. The
> problem wasn't Walkom not blowing down calls, but simply not SEEING
> them. He was constantly out of position and looking in the wrong
> direction, adn you can't call what you can't see.
No, I think there was a good balance of seen vs. not-seen penalties, with the
majority being seen but blown. Terrible lack of consistency by this bozo.
> Nope. Sorry. I refuse to accept that throwing stuff is EVER, EVER
> acceptable. It was a bogus, brain-dead thing to do. Period. That's how
> people get badly hurt.
>
Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to badly
(or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize here! Throwing
coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes. Water bottle onto the
middle of the empty ice surface during a stoppage in play, no.
grr
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 18:37 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 18:11:06
From: Howie Meyerson
Subject: Tickets wanted for 4/10 vs. Van
Hi Chompers,
I am looking for 2 or 4 tickets to the 4/10 game vs. Vancouver. If you
have tickets for sale, please contact me via email or phone.
Thanks,
Howie Meyerson
email@hidden
408-287-8229 H
408-522-6326 W
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 20:01 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 22:59:58 EST
From: email@hidden (Steve Greanias)
Subject: Misc bs
>Chek this tidbit from Associated Press out.... How would you like a 600 goal
>scoring forward in Teal and Black?
>Rangers have Gartner on the block?
>(MAR 9) TSN - THE NEW YORK RANGERS MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF TRADING
> RIGHT WING MIKE GARTNER, ONE OF THE N-H-L'S ALL-TIME LEADING GOAL
> SCORERS. THE NEW YORK POST SAYS AN "UNIMPEACHABLE SOURCE"
> CONFIRMED GENERAL MANAGER NEIL SMITH IS OFFERING THE 34-YEAR-OLD
> FORWARD AROUND THE LEAGUE.
> THE POST SAYS TEAMS MOST LIKELY INTERESTED IN THE SCORING
> THAT GARTNER COULD SUPPLY INCLUDE CHICAGO, QUEBEC, FLORIDA, SAN
> JOSE AND ANAHEIM.
> GARTNER IS SIXTH ON THE RANGERS IN SCORING THIS SEASON WITH
> 27 GOALS AND 19 ASSISTS IN HIS 65 GAMES. HOWEVER, THE 15-YEAR
> VETERAN HAS BEEN DROPPED TO THE TEAM'S THIRD LINE.
> GARTNER IS TIED WITH BOBBY HULL FOR FIFTH ON THE N-H-L'S
> CAREER GOALS LIST WITH 610. HE HAS SCORED AT LEAST 40 GOALS NINE
> TIMES, INCLUDING ALL THREE OF HIS FULL SEASONS WITH NEW YORK, A
> RANGERS' RECORD.
> GARTNER, WHO ALSO SPENT 10 YEARS WITH WASHINGTON AND PARTS
> OF TWO SEASONS WITH MINNESOTA, IS A SIX-TIME ALL-STAR GAME
> SELECTION.
Who would the Rangers want for Gartner? I'm not sure it would be in
the Sharks best interest long term to get Garts because of his age,
unless the Sharks feel they can win now. Also, having watched him
in many playoffs with the Caps I can say the reason he was traded
in the deal the got Cicarelli was in part because he was a
non-playoff scorer for the Caps. I think he's done a bit better
with the Rangers, but he was depended on more as a main scorer with
the Caps. He gets his goals through hard work and hustle and with a
lot of shots on net-ie:he's not as natural a scorer as some other players
are with his numbers. By the way, in the game between the Caps and
the Rangers in Halifax he passed Bobby Hull with, I believe,
his 612th.
> How about that Ozolnish. San Jose needs to make lots of noise about a
> Norris trophy for him. He'll never win because he is not as cheap as
> Chelios or as good as Bourque, but a little noise never hurts.
Not living in San Jose, I don't get to see a lot of the Sharks, though
I've seen them twice, (once in Washington (2-1 Sharks), and once in
Florida (3-3)). In the Florida game particularly I was impressed with
Ozolinsh. I was in the end they defended for 2 periods and I thought
he made some good plays defensively and was very much involved.
I haven't really been keeping up with the standings too much, but I don't
think I want the Sharks to play Detroit in the playoffs. I've liked
Essensa when I've seen him and I think Detroit has a fairly good shot
at the cup now that they have him instead of Cheveldae. And though
they are a clear longshot, with Irbe in net I think the Sharks have
more chance then a number of the teams in the playoffs. I also think
that if the Sharks could do well, (say win one round), it could do a
whole lot for the franchise, (ie:anyone remember how the Islanders
their first year in the playoffs upset the Rangers in the first round
then came back from 0-3 and beat a fairly good Pittsburgh club in the
second round prior to nearly repeating the comeback feat against
eventual champion Philly losing 4-3?).
Steve
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Go Sharks! Lets go CAPS! Go Portland Pirates!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 9 21:23 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 21:21:38 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc bs
> THE POST SAYS TEAMS MOST LIKELY INTERESTED IN THE SCORING
> THAT GARTNER COULD SUPPLY INCLUDE CHICAGO, QUEBEC, FLORIDA, SAN
> JOSE AND ANAHEIM.
Note the wording. They're not saying we're pursuing or interested, but that
we're the kind of team that might want his scoring. For all we know, the
team leaked this to the press just to start a rumor and see who calls. It's
happened before.
>Who would the Rangers want for Gartner?
What can they get? Let's be charitable, and say Gartner has two good years
left in him (I know, let's be REAL charitable here). What use is Gartner to
the Sharks? Where does he fit intoo our long-term team development?
>I'm not sure it would be in
>the Sharks best interest long term to get Garts because of his age,
>unless the Sharks feel they can win now.
Exactly. If he's the difference between winning the Cup and not, then that's
one thing. If we're talking about second round of the playoffs instead of
first round, he's not nearly as interesting.
Mostly we want him if he's good for a year or two and if he's cheap. With or
without him, we're not going to the finals, so it makes no sense to mortgage
off prospects or draft picks for him. He MIGHT be a better deal for the
Panthers, who are suddenly looking like they might miss the playoffs after
setting some lofty expectations all season, but even so, I wouldn't pay a
high price for him.
Also, remember, when he broke 600, he said he had one more goal left in his
career, and that was a Cup. Not only might being traded to an expansion team
break him, he might choose to retire rather than report. We'd have to be
careful not to trade away some decent material for a pension.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 00:37 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 00:33:19 PST
From: email@hidden (David B. Dobrikin)
Subject: Sharks Playoff Tickets
I have the order form for Sharks playoff tickets.
It is for the first three series (11 games possible 3-4-4)
Of course, it is most likely that we will only see two games total.
We are allowed to buy our 8 seats + 8 more seats (based on my original
priority number). It's my guess we should get whatever proce we want.
Prices:
REG Round1,2 Round3 TOTAL
65 75 85 865
55 65 75 755
38 43 50 501
28 32 39 380
24 28 35 336
18 22 28 266
14 16 22 200
SO, please send me your choices for seats:
Maybe tell me how many you want if there are only two games
and how many if there are more.
For example I might say:
I want 2 for the first two games
I want 4 pairs and 7 singles for the 11 games
Or maybe
I want 1 seat to half the games.
If I can work it out I will. If I can't (too many requests)
I'll probably ration them similar to the # of seats you bought this year.
We will not be able to buy single game seats ahead of the general public.
You, as a member of the general public, will be able to buy single game seats
if the full/partial season ticket holders don't buy them all first.
Please get back to me by Tuesday Mar 15.
I have earlier requests from Peter, Ken, Ed, Kathy, Gunhan and Paul. You can
update those requests if you want.
I will probably charge it and then charge you once the tickets are used. I
will credit our account for next year with unused payments. We'll see.
Thanks
David
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NHL PLAYOFFS: ***'s :my guess at likelihood of game at SJ
(All series best-of-seven)
WESTERN CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS:
Monday, April 18
Wednesday, April 20
Friday, April 22 ***
Sunday, April 24 ***
Tuesday, April 26 (if necessary)
Thursday, April 28 (if necessary) **
Saturday, April 30 (if necessary)
WESTERN CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS:
Monday, May 2 *
Wednesday, May 4 *
Friday, May 6 **
Sunday, May 8 **
Tuesday, May 10 (if necessary) *
Thursday, May 12 (if necessary) *
Saturday, May 14 (if necessary) *
WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS:
Monday, May 16 *
Wednesday, May 18 *
Friday, May 20 *
Sunday, May 22 *
Tuesday, May 24 (if necessary) *
Thursday, May 26 (if necessary) *
Saturday, May 28 (if necessary) *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 07:47 PST 1994
From: morgen sagen
Subject: Tickets wanted for 3/20 (fwd)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 7:46:49 PST
morgen sagen hewlett-packard company
408-447-2635 information networks division
________________________________________________________________________
Is the LA game on the 20th really sold out already? I was going to buy
my dad a couple club seats for his birthday for that game... He and I
own `two thirds' of a couple season tickets and the Kings game happens
to fall in the `other third' category!
If anyone wants to sell two tickets for the 20th, please call me at
408-447-2635 (day) or 415-960-3870 (night). I will be in section 214,
row 4, seat 14 tonight as well...
On a different note -- does anyone have an MPEG (compressed video) file
of the `flying sharks' video that they open the games with?
morgen
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 08:21 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 08:20:23 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Call for action
Everybody who's been to the Epicentre has seen a Bluecoat before,
during and after the games. One in particular, by the name of Walter,
has been conspicuous after games standing at the bottom of the
escalator, or out front, talking up a storm and during games he's
apt to be leading a cheer somewhere in the seats. Lately he has
been conspicuous in his silence. Tuesday night I had a chance to
talk to him to find out what happened. Apparently some "I want to
be seen at the Arena" people complained because Walter was making
too much noise after the games and management told him to quiet down.
If you want to see and hear Walter out front after the games, let the
management know; if certain people don't like the noise, they can go
to the opera instead!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 08:28 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 08:26:59 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
A comment:
"> Nope. Sorry. I refuse to accept that throwing stuff is EVER, EVER
> acceptable. It was a bogus, brain-dead thing to do. Period. That's how
> people get badly hurt.
>
Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to badly
(or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize here! Throwing
coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes. Water bottle onto the
middle of the empty ice surface during a stoppage in play, no."
The problem I have with it is management deciding (rightly) that water
bottles are no longer allowed through the door. So we can no longer
bring our water bottles in to use to hold our free sodas (the 2 free sodas
we get for signing up as designated drivers). It's incidents like this
that cause management to punish the other 16,000 fans.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 08:34 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 07:53:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Dane Collins)
Subject: Larionov's book
After a somewhat long search, I was able to purchase Igor's book from
Sportsbook Plus in Vancouver. Mike Harling there was very knowledgable
about hockey books and also sent me some of their catalogs of hockey
books which contain about 100 titles, a large selection considering what
I have been able to find in bookstores in this area.
If you are interested in a catalog, let me know since I have extras. If
you want to get a book, you can contact:
Mike Harling of Sportsbook Plus at 1-800-667-1251. He was a pleasure
to deal with. You can also write to them at 2100 West 4th Avenue,
Vancouver, B.C. V6K 1N7.
--dane
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 09:03 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 09:00:10 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Darius and Co.
Do we have to put up with this nonsense?
NO, I SAY! It's mail-bomb time...
have fun
gak
209/15/19&20
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>From email@hidden Thu Mar 10 08:55:49 1994
Subject: Darius and Co.
3/10/94
Well, tonight be da nite. This is tough for me. Ya know,
I've developed a soft spot in my heart for the Sharx over
the past couple years. But, twice each year, I've gotta
shelve this. Sorry Rich, but they're going down tonight.
LET'S GO ISLANDERS !!!!
-Insufferable fan
of "The Blue Scourge"
P.S. Enjoy the game. Too bad they weren't playing during the weekend.
P.P.S. Hypothetical question: Would I survive tonight's game
if I sat in 209 wearing my Islanders jersey, the one
that bears #5 ?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 10:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 12:58:17 EST
Subject: KC Blades
ANOTHER Shootout! The KC Blades won 7-6 in another shootout last night in
Cleveland. Corwin Saurdiff was in goal. The Blades came back to beat
Cleveland after being down 5-2. Kip Miller scored four goals!
The Blades acquired defenseman Mario Duion from New Brunswick yesterday.
A Feb. 23 article in the Kansas City Star: "Switch to partial NHL
affiliation appeals to Blades". " The Blades are in the final year of a
three-year deal with the Sharks. They hope a partial affiliation agreement
with the Sharks could represent an opportunity for the Blades to return to
the IHL elite. The Blades could sign some veteran players to make a better
mix of older and younger guys. The Sharks last year trimmed their payroll and
released many of the Blades veteran players leaving them with a core of
talented but very young players. Blades full affiliation fee to the Sharks ,
about $800,000, would be cut in half letting them sign 8-10 players. Partial
affiliation would mean the Sharks would supply 10-12 players for the Blades
next season. Under full affiliation the Sharks have supplied 18-20 players
each season. The Blades haven't heard back from the Sharks yet."
Blades are 6-0-3 in last nine games, 9-1-3 in past twelve. As of Mon. they
were just six points behind the Fort Wayne Komets for the eighth and final
playoff spot.
Alexander Cherbayev has been given medial clearance to begin play.
Left wing J.F. Quintin has been added to injured list, out indefinitely
(ribs).
As of Monday the 7th on the Blades Hot List: Wade Flaherty had given up just
16 goals in his last seven games and had stopped 205 of 221 shots during the
stretch, J.F. Quintin had 1 goal, 5 assists in last three games, Kip Miller
had points in five of his last six games (1 goal, 7 assists) Jari Otevrel has
points in six of the last eight games (4 goals, 6 assists). Miller and
Otevrel are the Blades top shootout gunners, connecting on 9 of 16.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 11:24 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 11:23:00 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to badly
>(or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize here! Throwing
>coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes. Water bottle onto the
>middle of the empty ice surface during a stoppage in play, no."
This misses the point completely. I don't care that whoever did it was
careful THIS TIME. It's irrelevant. What if he'd slipped while throwing it?
What if the person in front of him stood up and turned it into an impromptu
blackjack? What if, after he lofted it, a player skated down under it?
The point is, throwing stuff at any time, under any circumstances, is stupid
and dangerous. It can ALSO encourage someone not so intelligent, thoughtful,
or sober to emulate with less positive results.
Never. Never. Period. Not even an effing octopus.
>The problem I have with it is management deciding (rightly) that water
>bottles are no longer allowed through the door. So we can no longer
>bring our water bottles in to use to hold our free sodas (the 2 free sodas
>we get for signing up as designated drivers). It's incidents like this
>that cause management to punish the other 16,000 fans.
What Alan said. It's these isolated things that convince Sharks management
not to trust us with brooms, or bottles, or cans, or hockey sticks to be
signed. All it takes is one idiot.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 11:46 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 11:43:33 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: KC Blades
>Corwin Saurdiff was in goal.
How's he look?
>A Feb. 23 article in the Kansas City Star: "Switch to partial NHL
>affiliation appeals to Blades". " The Blades are in the final year of a
>three-year deal with the Sharks. They hope a partial affiliation agreement
>with the Sharks could represent an opportunity for the Blades to return to
>the IHL elite. The Blades could sign some veteran players to make a better
>mix of older and younger guys.
Interesting. I was talking to rusanowsky before the Sabres game and the
Blades came up. His comment was that the Sharks still need to improve their
depth, and some of the struggles of the Blades show that. We've developed a
good core into the home team, but we're still thin in the next ranks down.
Also leaves us little margin of error in injuries.
I wonder if the Sharks would go for this, or if they'd move to a new
affiliate. I'd also expect the situation to improve next year. This was the
year at all of the 'expansion bodies' were slipped out of the organization,
and so there's going to be a LOT less turnover in players during the
offseason, which gives them a chance to build the depth up.
Can't really blame the Blades too much -- some of the jerking around this
year has made my uncomfortable, but it's a necessary evil of being a minor
league club. but I couldn't blame the Sharks if they didn't accept a partial
affiliation, either. Let's hope it works out the best for everyone.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 12:59 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:01:08 PST
From: email@hidden (Doug Fierro)
Subject: line change revisited
Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line change
two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting line-up
is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired seconds
after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy perhaps?
Officiating did suck Tuesday night. You know it's bad when the people
sitting in the club seats decide to dump their trash on the ice in
protest! If only 209 was closer to the ice... :-)
Doug
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 13:42 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:39:29 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: One for Tonight?
Wanted: one ticket for tonight (Islanders) for a friend. Anything
will do, since we'll make room for her in 209 anyway. Please reply muy
pronto, and I'll buy you a beer...
thx
gak
209/15/19&20
P.S. What's the ticket office telephone number? And if I call them,
will they hold a ticket for me?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 14:03 PST 1994
Date: 10 Mar 1994 13:57:11 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Sharks Playoff Tickets
Reply to: RE>Sharks Playoff Tickets
David B. Dobrikin sez:
>NHL PLAYOFFS: ***'s :my guess at likelihood of game at
SJ
>WESTERN CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS:
>Monday, April 18
>Wednesday, April 20
>Friday, April 22 ***
>Sunday, April 24 ***
>Tuesday, April 26 (if necessary)
>Thursday, April 28 (if necessary) **
>Saturday, April 30 (if necessary)
Actually, there's been some talk about modifying which games are played at
which sites in the Western Conference quarter- and semifinals. Because of the
long distances between some of the Pacific Division teams and their Midwest
Division opponents, there's been talk of having the series be played 2-3-2
rather than 2-2-1-1-1. So if the Sharks play Detroit or Toronto, the April
26th game may well be in San Jose and the April 28th game away. If the Sharks,
dare I say it (Dare! Dare!), make it to the second round against Calgary or
Vancouver, the games will likely be back to 2-2-1-1-1.
The great thing about a 2-3-2 series is that it significantly increases the
likelihood of a third playoff game in San Jose. Realistically, however, it
will probably not give the Sharks enough of a boost to get them to the second
round.
I'd love to be proved wrong, however... ;-)
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 14:29 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 14:26:07 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
>
>Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to badly
>(or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize here! Throwing
>coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes. Water bottle onto the
>middle of the empty ice surface during a stoppage in play, no."
Isn't fan "intervention" punishable by at least a bench minor?
(Assuming the officials are familiar with the Rule Book, which is
unlikely, because the league doesn't publish a Braille version.)
Anyway, the object that was thrown is irrelevant. Someone threw some
paper cups, then someone threw the water bottle. Where do you draw the
line, when someone throws a folding chair? When someone throws a
Buffalo fan over the glass? (Not a bad idea, actually...)
>The problem I have with it is management deciding (rightly) that water
>bottles are no longer allowed through the door.
Yes.
have fun
gak (still begging for a ticket for tonight!)
209/15/19&20
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 15:17 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 12:53:52 CST
From: ed
Subject: hello
hello,all.
first of all,this is going to sound bad.but it really isn't.you guys complain
about bad calls and players arround the net.now i'm not a blues fan,but you
have nothing to complain about.here in st.louis,we've been dealing with bad
calls all year,and have no defense to stop the opposing team from stomping on
Cujo.you also have it good,cause you dont have stupid management that tries to
get rid of someone the day he gets good.ive been a sharks fan since the first
drop of the puck in the cow palace.and now you have a new arena. so what if the
hot water doesn't work. in our new arena, the original plan didn't have freezer
in the floor,hence,no ice.but all comes out well in the end.ill be at the game
on the 27th of march,rooting for the sharks. and hopefully,well make it to the
playoffs this year.if so, ill be with them all the way. anybody need brett hull
autographs?ill trade for irbe or other sharks players. also,my choice for best
shark of the year has to be todd elik.what a difference a year makes(behind
irbe of course).any comments,please write back.
Ed Cracchiola
email@hidden
1. Vatali Prokhorov
2. Irbe
GO SHARKS!!!!!!!!!!PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1994 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS
DUCKS SUCK,DUCKS SUCK!!!!!!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 15:37 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 15:36:53 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: FEWD: Water Bottle
>From email@hidden Thu Mar 10 14:36 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 14:35:19 PST
Subject: Water bottle
Status: R
As a player I never like seeing things tossed on the ice. However something
needed to be said. What is needed is a big rubber chicken or "shark if we
must" to be thrown around the score keepers bench. By someone who sits in
the front row. But a full water bottle is not cool.
Woody
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 15:40 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 15:36:43 PDT
From: (Philip Jeuck)
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>
>Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to badly
>(or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize here! Throwing
>coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes. Water bottle onto the
>middle of the empty ice surface during a stoppage in play, no."
>
>The problem I have with it is management deciding (rightly) that water
>bottles are no longer allowed through the door. So we can no longer
>bring our water bottles in to use to hold our free sodas (the 2 free sodas
>we get for signing up as designated drivers). It's incidents like this
>that cause management to punish the other 16,000 fans.
Wrong. So if they ban water bottles are they going to stop selling snooty
bottled water? Same kind of bottle that came out of the stands. And what
about all those paper cups that were thrown on the ice - beer and soda have
to go too. I call it cover-your-ass thinking without really thinking.
>Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
>National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
>Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
>email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
Phil Jeuck
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 15:56 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 15:56:38 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Referee seeks employment
>Wrong. So if they ban water bottles are they going to stop selling snooty
>bottled water? Same kind of bottle that came out of the stands.
No, but it might give them an excuse to further 'encourage' us to buy that
stuff (which I do. It has no caffeine, and no sugar. For me, that's handy,
especially at night. But it's irrelevant).
I mean, it's not like there aren't already inconsistencies. They ban brooms
and regulation hockey sticks as potential weapons, but sell nice, 3' long
mini-sticks that are JUST the right size for a kid to nail you in the face
with (or a drunken idiot, but it was the kid that almost got me a few games
back).
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 16:14 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:09:00 PST
From: email@hidden (Curtis Chen)
Subject: line change revisited
Zippy-Says: I joined scientology at a garage sale!!
Doug says:
Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line change
two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting line-up
is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired seconds
after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy perhaps?
I wasn't at the game, so I can't say for sure, but FYI:
In the NHL, the home team has the privilege of doing the last line
change at each stoppage of play. This is particularly advantageous in
the late stages of a game, when you want to send your checking line
out to protect a lead against an opponent's top scoring line.
So, the Sharks got to see which line Buffalo was going to start and
*then* decide which line to counter with. The Buffalo coach must not
have liked the matchup and instructed the players to change lines at
the 1st available opportunity.
Curtis
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 16:45 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:10:25 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: The water bottle throw: next Olympic event
> >Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to
> >badly (or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize
> >here! Throwing coins onto the ice (seen it at the Cow Palace), yes.
> >Water bottle onto the middle of the empty ice surface during a
> >stoppage in play, no."
>
> This misses the point completely. I don't care that whoever did it was
> careful THIS TIME. It's irrelevant.
Hmmm. Can we look at the initial statement again??? Here it is......
> Nope. Sorry. I refuse to accept that throwing stuff is EVER, EVER
> acceptable. It was a bogus, brain-dead thing to do. Period. That's how
> people get badly hurt. What if he'd slipped while throwing it?
> What if the person in front of him stood up and turned it into an impromptu
> blackjack? What if, after he lofted it, a player skated down under it?
Given that this is what you originally said, how can you say "This misses the
point completely....It's irrelevant"?????????????????????? *That* is NOT how
people get badly hurt!!!! That was your claim - don't change your message
first to one saying that getting badly hurt by that throw or not is
irrelevant, THEN continue on in the sentence and hop right back onto the
'badly hurt' train with conjectures about absurd-ish things that could have
happened. If you're going to start that, why not complain that standing up
to applaud after a goal could cause you to fall and hurt yourself and the
person next to you? Yes, the specific action and realistic possible results
DOES matter!!!!!
Sure if you want to change or add new angles to your argument you may be
making valid points, but that doesn't make the response to your original
actual statement invalid because it doesn't address your new and different
points.
>The problem I have with it is management deciding (rightly) that water
>bottles are no longer allowed through the door. So we can no longer
>bring our water bottles in to use to hold our free sodas (the 2 free sodas
>we get for signing up as designated drivers). It's incidents like this
>that cause management to punish the other 16,000 fans.
Yes, Alan's response that he doesn't like it for another reason is certainly
better than saying "well, I want to bring a water bottle in, so you were
incorrect in saying that the bottle throw wouldn't have badly hurt anyone."
grr
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 16:52 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:52:28 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: The water bottle throw: next Olympic event
You said:
>> >Acceptable or not, there was NO WAY *that* bottle throw was going to
>> >badly (or even slightly) hurt someone. No need to over-dramatize
>> >here!
I said:
>> This misses the point completely. I don't care that whoever did it was
>> careful THIS TIME. It's irrelevant.
and
>> Nope. Sorry. I refuse to accept that throwing stuff is EVER, EVER
>> acceptable.
And you said:
>Given that this is what you originally said, how can you say "This misses the
>point completely....It's irrelevant"??????????????????????
It's irrelevant that *that* bottle wsan't going to hurt anyone. I'm not
over-dramatizing. It's NEVER acceptable under any circumstance. Period.
You're picking nits, and you're welcome to, but I'm dropping it at this. It
is never acceptable to throw stuff on the ice, or in the crowd (except hats
after hat tricks, and I'll accept paper airplanes in the audience). Anything
else, if I see it, goes to the usher. As far as I'm concerned.
You can make your own decisions on whether it was a safe throw, Girard, and
I just don't care.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 17:20 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 17:16:39 PST
From: email@hidden (Brian Calverley x6990)
Subject: Sharks Stats 3/9/94
TEAM STATISTICS: SHARKS 3/9/94
(Through games of March 8)
PLAYER GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG
SERGEI MAKAROV 67 23 32 55 4 72 7 0 3 0 123 18.7
TODD ELIK 62 17 33 50 3- 58 7 0 3 0 142 12.0
SANDIS OZOLINSH 64 20 29 49 7 18 2 0 2 0 123 16.3
JOHAN GARPENLOV 63 15 26 41 4 18 7 0 3 0 102 14.7
PAT FALLOON 66 19 21 40 4- 14 5 0 1 0 160 11.9
IGOR LARIONOV 44 12 28 40 18 28 2 1 1 1 51 23.5
ROB GAUDREAU 67 12 16 28 10- 24 4 0 4 0 129 9.3
BOB ERREY 57 11 17 28 8- 120 5 0 2 0 84 13.1
RAY WHITNEY 44 7 18 25 1- 14 0 0 0 1 58 12.1
GAETAN DUCHESNE 67 11 13 24 6 26 0 1 3 0 106 10.4
JEFF NORTON 48 5 19 24 12 24 1 0 0 0 70 7.1
V. BUTSAYEV 55 12 10 22 1 64 2 0 3 0 83 14.5
TOM PEDERSON 57 5 16 21 5 22 2 0 1 0 150 3.3
JEFF ODGERS 65 12 6 18 11- 178 7 0 0 1 62 19.4
JAMIE BAKER 50 8 4 12 1- 24 0 0 0 0 51 15.7
DALE CRAIGWELL 48 3 6 9 11- 16 0 1 0 0 34 8.8
JAY MORE 32 1 5 6 6- 43 0 0 0 0 31 3.2
MIKE RATHJE 36 0 6 6 10- 55 0 0 0 0 21 .0
DOUG ZMOLEK 66 0 4 4 8- 118 0 0 0 0 28 .0
VLASTIMIL KROUPA 16 1 1 2 4- 12 0 0 0 0 13 7.7
MIKE LALOR 21 0 2 2 4- 6 0 0 0 0 17 .0
ARTURS IRBE 58 0 2 2 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 .0
SHAWN CRONIN 20 0 1 1 0 62 0 0 0 0 7 .0
JIM WAITE 13 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 .0
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 18:00 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Sharks Playoff Tickets (fwd)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:58:52 -0800 (PST)
Dave Comstock writes:
> Actually, there's been some talk about modifying which games are played at
> which sites in the Western Conference quarter- and semifinals. Because of the
> long distances between some of the Pacific Division teams and their Midwest
> Division opponents, there's been talk of having the series be played 2-3-2
> rather than 2-2-1-1-1. So if the Sharks play Detroit or Toronto, the April
> 26th game may well be in San Jose and the April 28th game away. If the Sharks,
> dare I say it (Dare! Dare!), make it to the second round against Calgary or
> Vancouver, the games will likely be back to 2-2-1-1-1.
I thought it was more than talk; I thought it was a done deal, decided at the
beginning of the season. It will be 2-3-2 for all series between Central/
Pacific teams, but (if I interpreted the news releases right) if the team with
home ice chooses to make it, it can become *3-4* (in this case, 3 games in
San Jose first).
And, if the Sharks are seeded 8th, the 2nd round opponent will *not* be Calgary
or Vancouver; it will be #4 or #5 (currently Dallas and St. Louis). Of
course, if the Sharks get seeded 7th, they will face Calgary in the 1st round
and the format will be 2-2-1-1-1.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 18:03 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:42:15 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: Re: line change revisited
> Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line change
> two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting line-
> up is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired
> seconds after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy
> perhaps?
I guess they wanted a different match-up. The visiting team has to submit
their starting lineup first, then the home team gets to submit theirs.
Buffalo obviously didn't like the match-up the Sharks presented and did a
quick switch.
grr
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 10 21:34 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:31:11 +0800
From: email@hidden (Mitch Wright)
Subject: FYI
Just thought I'd mention that on the Radio telecast of tonights game, they
mentioned the "We can cure Kasparitis in our lifetime" sign....
vsego horoshego!
~mitch
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 07:36 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 07:32:01 PST
From: email@hidden (Brian Calverley x6990)
Subject: Re: line change revisited
> Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line change
> two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting line-
> up is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired
> seconds after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy
> perhaps?
>I guess they wanted a different match-up. The visiting team has to submit
>their starting lineup first, then the home team gets to submit theirs.
>Buffalo obviously didn't like the match-up the Sharks presented and did a
>quick switch.
KC on the radio last night said that the Sabres were trying to match the Mogilny/Hawerchuck line against the Sharks OV line all night. Kind of a strength vs. strength thing......usually teams match their checking line with the other teams scoring line.
THROWING ANYTHING ON THE ICE IS NOT COOL!
BC
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 08:19 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:17:42 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Throwing things on the ice
Philip Jeuck writes:
"Wrong. So if they ban water bottles are they going to stop selling snooty
bottled water? Same kind of bottle that came out of the stands. And what
about all those paper cups that were thrown on the ice - beer and soda have
to go too. I call it cover-your-ass thinking without really thinking."
So you're saying it's okay to throw things on the ice? How about 5
water bottles? How about 1000 bottles? How about 17,000 bottles?
Where do you draw the line? And why is your-line-minus-one okay, but
your-line-plus-one not okay? The line MUST be drawn at 0. I do not
spend almost $100 to bring my family to a game to watch the maintenance
staff clean up garbage from "fans" who feel a need to throw things on
the ice.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 08:26 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:24:54 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: line change revisited
It's been written:
"> Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line change
> two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting line-
> up is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired
> seconds after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy
> perhaps?
I guess they wanted a different match-up. The visiting team has to submit
their starting lineup first, then the home team gets to submit theirs.
Buffalo obviously didn't like the match-up the Sharks presented and did a
quick switch."
On last night's broadcast, this was brought up during Kevin's segment.
It was explained that normally the line matchups are such that a checking
line will be put against the top line, but Buffalo decided to match top
line against top line.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 08:36 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:34:31 PST
From: email@hiddenm (Mari)
Subject: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
Have y'all had more free pizza than you ever thought possible?!
Don't you just know that next year they will inevitable up the requirement
to 5 goals?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 08:50 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 08:49:39 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: line change revisited
>KC on the radio last night said that the Sabres were trying to match
>the Mogilny/Hawerchuck line against the Sharks OV line all night. Kind
>of a strength vs. strength thing......usually teams match their
>checking line with the other teams scoring line.
Did anyone else notice what Constantine was doing much of the night?
Especially in the last two periods, Mogilny had a shadow. The guy assigned
to watch him?
Shawn Cronin.
And frankly, Mogilny spent a fair amount of time listening to footsteps and
taking close, intimate looks with the ruts in the ice. Cronin did a pretty
good job of slowing him down, and much to my amazement, knocked a shot out
of the air with his stick to force a turnover. That's a finesse play you
just don't expect out of someone like him.
He may never earn a star of the game, but he's continuing to impress me with
solid play, and he keeps showing me signs of being a LOT more than anyone
would have given him credit for. A lot like Odgers has.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 10:15 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:14:53 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Not magic numbers.
Last night, by the way, we tied our total points for the first two seasons
combined. Not a bad improvement.
Anyway, a few numbers, not quite magic ones, just to give us an idea how
things look. I'm comparing records from this morning and Feb 20, just to
see how teams are playing and what the next few weeks bring:
In the last 9 games, we're 3-4-2 (on the other hand, we're 3-0-1 in the last
four, but I wanted to look at about 10 games per team. If the unbeaten
streak is more indicative, the numbers get better), for 8 points. In
comparison, the Ducks are 2-6-1, kings are 1-6-4, vancouver is 4-2-1 and
Calgary is 2-5-2.
If you break those down into points-per-game, the percentages are like this:
Vancouver 1.2, San Jose .888, Calgary .666, Anaheim .555 and LA .545
(edmonton is at 1 even, but who cares?). In other words, it's crunch time
and we have the second-best winning percentage in the division, and the
teams chasing us are falling further behind.
If you use these points-per-game and extrapolate to the end of the season,
the final standings would look this way:
Vancouver: 90
Calgary: 85
San Jose: 78
Anaheim: 63
Los Angeles: 63
Edmonton: 61
Note that Vancouver catches Calgary. That's why Calgary made that trade last
night, to try to fix that.
So if we continue playing the way we have (and that includes that four game
losing road trip!) we make the playoffs fairly easily. (Oh, don't expect to
catch Chicago. Using the same formula, they end up with 97 points while St.
Louis ends up with 101. So it's a matter of whether we can catch 2nd in the
Pacific, and keep Anaheim and Los Angeles from catching us. It'll ALSO be
interesting to see if Edmonton salvages some respect by catching one of
them!).
Okay, what does the race look like?
Assuming we play as we have been the last nine games and finish with 78
points (which would, by the way, give us the record for best one-year
turnaround in the history of the league), LA would have to play 12-5-0
hockey to tie us (based on their recent play, they look to finish 4-12-1).
Anaheim would have to finish 12-2-1, since they only have 15 games left.
If we play the way we've been playing the last 9 games, they can't catch us.
Period. We have to collapse.
Okay, what kind of collapse do we need? Let's assume the Kings play .500
hockey the rest of the season (8-8-1), which gives them 71 points on the
year. For us to LOSE to the Kings, we have to end up with 70 points (we own
the tiebreakers), which means we would have to play 3-12-1 the rest of the
season. The numbers are essentially the same for the Ducks.
Unless the Kings or the Ducks make a serious run at us (and as you can see,
they better start in the next couple of games or it'll be too late), I think
it's pretty safe to say we'll make the playoffs when we hit about 72 points.
It's all in our hands. We have to play HORRIBLE hockey AND the Ducks or the
Kings have to play outstanding hockey for them to catch us.
Can we move up? Assuming Calgary ends up with 85 points, can we catch them?
To do wo, we'd have to step up our play. Instead of finishing the season
with a 7-9-0 streak (which is what a point-per-game of .888 works out to),
we'd need to add another eight points to the total, or 11-5-0. Not
impossible, but it'd be a reach.
Hey, just for the heck of it, can we catch Vancouver? Yes. It'd take 13-2-1
to do it if Vancouver continues it's current pace. Not likely, but not
impossible.
Edmonton, by the way, is effectively eliminated from contention (no duh). If
they win ALL their games, they finish with 76 points. That's still not good
enough to catch our projected point total, and I PERSONALLY feel we're going
to finish the season better than 7-9. I'd like to see that closer to 10-6,
which would finish us around 83 points and get us VERY close to .500. And if
the team gets on a roll, which it seems to be heading towards again, it
could be better than that.
One caveat: all of these numbers are projections based on about the last 9
or so games. Teams WON'T continue playing the way they have. Calgary might
turn around with the players they got last night, for instance. LA or
Anaheim might wake up and make a run (don't bet on it, especially from the
Ducks. They're done). Things will move around slightly.
But the bottom line: play .500 down the stretch, and nobody can touch us.
Our schedule isn't trivial, though:
Calgary: 2 games, both away
Ottawa at home
LA: three games, two away
Pittsburgh away
Toronto twice, one at home
Winnipeg twice, one at home
St Louis away
Vancouver three times, twice at home.
Edmonton at home.
Taking a conservative look at that schedule, the only games we 'should' win
are Ottawa, Winnipeg and Edmonton, or 3-13. Even with THAT bad schedule, the
Ducks and Kings have to work to catch us. But can we take one from Calgary?
One from LA? One from Vancouver? Even at 6-10, we finish with 75 points, and
the Kings have to play 10-6-1 to catch us.
Let's not get overconfident, but realistically, the playoff slot is ours
unless we hand it back.
I recommend we don't.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 10:45 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:24:03 PST
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
On 11 Mar 94, you wrote (Subject: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA):
>
> Have y'all had more free pizza than you ever thought possible?!
> Don't you just know that next year they will inevitable up the requirement
> to 5 goals?
I wonder how many of those stubs are actually redeemed. Since you can't use
them at the arena and they're only good for a week and only for a $3 pizza, I
would imagine that very few are actually used. I know that in my case I've
only redeemed a stub once and that was because of a coincidence.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 11:18 PST 1994
Date: 11 Mar 1994 11:13:11 -0800
From: "Mike Hedblom"
Subject: Pizza pizza pizza
Pizza pizza pizza
>I wonder how many of those stubs are actually redeemed. Since you can't use
>them at the arena and they're only good for a week and only for a $3 pizza,
>I would imagine that very few are actually used. I know that in my case
>I've only redeemed a stub once and that was because of a coincidence.
The first one I got this year, I accidently used at Pizza Hut (I wasn't
thinking straight). The guy behiond the counter said, "Oh, I know we do this
for Warriors, but this is my first Sharks deal." I didn't even realize my
mistake until a few weeks later when I talked a friend into going to Round
Table, but drove to Pizza Hut...
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 12:08 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 15:05:26 EST
Subject: Sabres line change
>Ok, at the Buffalo game, why the hell did the Sabres do a line >change
>two seconds into the game??? They know what the Sharks starting >line-up
>is. Did anyone else catch it? I know they could not have tired >seconds
>after the opening faceoff. Some kind of convoluted strategy >perhaps?
One advantage of being the home team is the option of making the last line
change before and during trhe game. Obviously Muckler sent out a group, the
Sharks sent out a group that he didn't feel matched up well and switched. It
happens all the time.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 12:09 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:58:33 PST
email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Re: line change revisited
Oh no! He's about to tell another oldtime hockey story!
On 11 Mar 94, Chuq wrote (Subject: Re: line change revisited):
> Did anyone else notice what Constantine was doing much of the night?
> Especially in the last two periods, Mogilny had a shadow. The guy assigned
> to watch him?
>
> Shawn Cronin.
I remember one year (pre-expansion; just six teams, so you saw everyone
_alot_) when the Red Wings assigned a guy named Watson to shadow Bobby Hull.
Hull did his best to ignore the guy for the whole season. That is, until the
last game of the season. Bobby proceeded to break Watson's jaw with a single
well placed punch. Ah, the old days. No suspension. I don't think he even
got a game misconduct for it.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 12:21 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 15:18:11 EST
Subject: Playoff Chase
Deep in Chuq's wonderful playoff analysis lies this:
>LA: three games, two away
Thats 6 points right there. If we lose all three, they are only three back
if we play even with them the rest of the way. If we win any of the three,
it should be over.
Lets hope Barry Melrose doesn't have the opportunity to be 1994's Tom
Lasorda.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:05 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:04:14 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Re: line change revisited
> Especially in the last two periods, Mogilny had a shadow. The guy assigned
> to watch him?
Brain fart. Turgeon, not Mogilny. sorry.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:12 PST 1994
Date: 11 Mar 94 13:03:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: McREARY:FIGHTS
Let me raise a point that occured to me after last night's
game (Sharks 4, Isles 3). A lot of people on the net insist that
fighting is needed to make up for the fact that the ref misses a lot
of calls. The argument goes that you need a goon (the unlamented Link
comes to mind) to make the other team pay when the ref misses a call.
Last night, McReary basically swallowed the whistle. Unlike
the Walkon the prevoius game, he was pretty even handed; he ignored what
both teams were doing. Despite that, fighting was minimal. I think the
distinction is that McReary made it clear that while he wasn't going to
call every minor infraction, he also wasn't going to stand for a dirty
game. As long as the ref makes it clear what style of game he is going to
call, the players should be able to adapt to it without resorting to
enforcement goons.
The idea that you have to make the other team "pay" for something
that the ref misses really hurts the Sharks. Look at the way Buffalo
goaded Makharov into getting himself hit with penalties. Yes, Walkon
sucked. There's no question he called a miserable, inconsistent game. But
when you get caught up in that kind of game, as tough as it may be to
shrug it off and keep playing, that's what a team has to do. Otherwise,
the fighters can pick a time to goad you into being stupid. Errey last
night was a perfect example; he came damn close to being called once or
twice for getting in people's faces after the play was dead. I like
Errey- he showed great hustle all night, and probably deserved that star-
but he has a habit of getting called for stupid penalties trying to "get
even" for something the ref didn't call. I just don't think he can keep
getting away with it.
I'm not 100% against fighting. I think if someone tries to make
Makharov a permanent part of the boards, you need the Barbarian to explain
the error of their ways to them. But the idea that you have to retaliate for
every unnoticed infraction is what I object to, and I think that mentality
could hurt the SHarks if they don't put a muzzle on Errey.
Other than that, great game!! I'll leave it to Nelson and Chuq
to describe the rest of the action.....
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:15 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:14:12 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Kasparitis
> Just thought I'd mention that on the Radio telecast of tonights game, they
> mentioned the "We can cure Kasparitis in our lifetime" sign....
>
> vsego horoshego!
On SportsChannel NY, the camera found that sign and caused
Jiggs Macdonald and partner to laugh for four or five seconds -- a
long time on the air.
They went on to say at Kasparaitis was probably enjoying it at home,
and that his medical tests showed that he just had a sprained wrist.
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:23 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:22:48 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Yesterday in history
>From my friend in Calgary, yesterday:
> Today in history: 39 years ago the Zamboni first appeared on
> an NHL rink.
Happy birthday to it! And 39 years ago tomorrow, the IRS probably
descended on Signore Zamboni...
I wonder, was there any kind of ice conditioning before that?
On a related topic, the new San Jose Ice Center (where Sharks and
ordinary people practice and where San Jose State plays games) has
no Zamboni; it has an Olympia. This machine has a somewhat more
streamlined appearance and a more powerful motor, and is the first
of its kind I have ever seen.
Hmmmm. I just can't see "Well, I went down to the local arena, ...
I wanna drive the Olympia." It just doesn't have that ring to it.
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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PS--Just to show how awake I was when I first sent this msg. this morning,
I tried to send it to "email@hidden".
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:33 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: Re: Throwing Things on Ice
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 9:38:26 -0800 (PST)
As I've gotten older, I've come to agree with the
position that it's never okay to throw stuff on the
ice, with one big exception: hats thrown on the
ice after a hat trick. In my mind, any hockey crowd
that does not produce at least three or four hats
on the ice for a hometown hat trick is not worth
its salt. I have a gut feeling that the hats will
rain down in San Jose for Ozolinsh at least
once this season. Do the Sharks have any hat tricks
this year?
In college, when we played Harvard, the tradition was
to pelt the Harvard goalie, after our first goal,
with all kinds of disgusting marine creatures and
other biological specimens, octopi, squids, and
very large and ugly fish. I don't know if this
tradition came from the Detroit Red Wings tradition
of throwing an octopus on the ice, or vice versa.
But we went much further. One year I remember
a barrage including octopus, squid, big old ugly
grouper and sea bass, dogfish shark,
and even some hideous-looking
deep-ocean fish stolen from specimen jars in one
of the bio labs--also a dozen or more sieves, which
went along with the "Sieve" chant.
Every year, we would get a 2-minute penalty for this,
but it always seemed to work. Now that I'm older,
I can't justify it--but I look back on it as the
good old days.
Interesting game last night! Irbe started very cold,
but came on super-strong in the 2nd and third. Isles seemed
snake bit--hit the post 3 times! The last couple of minutes were
great, with Irbe coming up very big with Hextall out of the
net.
****
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:40 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:39:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: McREARY:FIGHTS
>A lot of people on the net insist that
>fighting is needed to make up for the fact that the ref misses a lot
>of calls. The argument goes that you need a goon (the unlamented Link
>comes to mind) to make the other team pay when the ref misses a call.
Moshe has a point, but it has its limitations. I agree with him to some
degree, but not completely.
> Last night, McReary basically swallowed the whistle.
Yes. There was a lot of 'stuff' going on, but he basically sat back and let
people skate. It was very Stewart-esque. I had little problem with it,
iether, despite my yelling at every non-call for the Sharks benefit (hey, it
can't hurt...).
>Despite that, fighting was minimal. I think the
>distinction is that McReary made it clear that while he wasn't going to
>call every minor infraction, he also wasn't going to stand for a dirty
>game.
Yup. Plus you had two teams who were there to play hockey, who are fighting
for playoff spots, and neither team was willing to take a stupid penalty to
send a message and maybe lose the game because of it. If Kasparitis had been
there (one of the Isles fighters), or if the game had gotten lopsided, it
might have been different.
In fact, the Walkom game was a lot more likely ot turn into mayhem, simply
because if the players have no lcue what is and isn't a penalty, well, what
the heck. *Bam*.
>As long as the ref makes it clear what style of game he is going to
>call, the players should be able to adapt to it without resorting to
>enforcement goons.
Exactly. It works as long as both teams are willing to look at it that way.
In fact, ONE of the reasons the Sharks are so much better this year is
discipline and refusing to get involved in this kind of stuff. Low penalty
minutes translates to fewer power play goals. But it they have a McSorley
and you don't, you have a problem. That's the only place I disagree with
Moshe -- it tkaes both teams to have the discipline and willingness to keep
the gloves on. And as long as that kind of enforcement is tolerated and can
be a positive strategy, some teams will use it. That implies that even teams
that DON'T adopt the strategy need some way to counteract it or neutralize
it (and, in fact, I think that's what the Sharks HAVE done most of the
season).
>I like
>Errey- he showed great hustle all night, and probably deserved that star-
>but he has a habit of getting called for stupid penalties trying to "get
>even" for something the ref didn't call. I just don't think he can keep
>getting away with it.
Keep getting away with it? The league has clearly targetted him, and he
doesn't get away with stuff other players do already. And he CAN be a
problem, because he seems to have only one style of play, which is physical
bordering on chippy. And the refs aren't tolerating his chippy one bit.
But yes, the Islanders game si a perfect example of how you can live without
enforcement, as long as all sides agree on the truce.
The question is how to get all sides to agree to it....
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 13:42 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:42:08 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
>I wonder, was there any kind of ice conditioning before that?
Yes, there was. Pre-zamboni, you'd have people (rink-rats, usually) with
brooms and shovels clear and level the ice, and then they'd wheel large
barrels of hot water out onto the ice and dump it. Obviously, not something
you'd do in between every period.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:01 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 14:02:03 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Notes from the Islanders' broadcast
I already mentioned the reaction to the Kasparaitis sign.
They also made approving noises at the rest of the panoply of signs.
---
News about a former Shark: The Isles were surprised when Pittsburgh
took Larry dePalma off their waiver line.
---
On the Errey goal, the one where Jay More shot it backward while skating
away, near the right-wing circle, and Errey got credit for it with an
apparent deflection: Hextall and the announcers thought Errey hit the
puck with his skate. The tape wasn't very conclusive, but Errey jumped
a foot or so into the air, and his stick blade was not far from his skates.
The puck could have hit his stick or his skate, but certainly didn't
deflect much. I thought it looked like he was trying to jump out of
the way of More's unintentional shot. Comments from the W&C folks
who had the best view of it?
---
The Isles arrived in SJ from Vancouver at 3 a.m., having played on five
of seven days on two coasts(Fri.@NYR, Sat.@NYI, Mon.@Winn., Wed.@Van.,
Th.@SJ). I'm amazed they seemed so energetic last night.
---
Trivia question: Who holds the record for greatest improvement in
consecutive seasons? Quebec, last year, with a 52-point gain.
The Sharks, with 24 last year, would need 77 points to beat that record;
that's only 14 more, which is less than .500, folks.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:02 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:41:17 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
> On 11 Mar 94, you wrote (Subject: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA):
> >
> > Have y'all had more free pizza than you ever thought possible?!
> > Don't you just know that next year they will inevitable up the
> > requirement
> > to 5 goals?
>
> I wonder how many of those stubs are actually redeemed. Since you can'
> t use them at the arena and they're only good for a week and only for
> a $3 pizza, I would imagine that very few are actually used. I know
> that in my case I've
> only redeemed a stub once and that was because of a coincidence.
>
I seem to be surviving on nothing but Round Table personal pizzas these
days!!!!
I agree, they're probably pretty unhappy about all this success, and will
change the rules next year. We suckered them in with that terrible start
this year (I think the pizza policy was not established until several weeks
into the season).
grr
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:06 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:06:07 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Throwing Things on Ice
>I have a gut feeling that the hats will
>rain down in San Jose for Ozolinsh at least
>once this season. Do the Sharks have any hat tricks
>this year?
Larionov has one. I think that's the only one.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:11 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 14:11:27 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Sharks Playoff Tickets (fwd)
> > ..., there's been talk of having the series be played 2-3-2
> > rather than 2-2-1-1-1. ...
>
> I thought it was more than talk; I thought it was a done deal, decided at the
> beginning of the season. It will be 2-3-2 for all series between Central/
> Pacific teams, but (if I interpreted the news releases right) if the team with
> home ice chooses to make it, it can become *3-4* (in this case, 3 games in
> San Jose first).
The officially stated policy says it "may" be 2-3-2 for Central/Pacific
series, but doesn't say who decides the issue. It says nothing at all
about 3-4, and a good thing, too, because that would give an unfair
advantage the the uppper seed. Either 2-3-2 or 2-2-1-1-1 splits the
required four games evenly, and also splits the first six games evenly.
If home ice is significant, then the 3-4 scheme puts the upper seed
up 3-0 before the other team has a shot at it.
Personally, I prefer 2-3-2 for all series. It gives the lower seed a
bit of an boost at game 5, evening things up just that little bit.
I'm sure the airlines would campaign against it, though! (Really,
wasn't it a bit silly having both teams and all their gear shipped
between Montreal and LA every other day?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:13 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 14:13:58 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Hammerheads meeting tomorrow
The Hammerheads Booster Club is to meet at 3 pm tomorrow (Saturday),
in San Jose Live. If you are already a member, you should have received
your newsletter in the past few days. If you are not, come along
and rectify that tomorrow!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:23 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:22:53 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Notes from the Islanders' broadcast
>I already mentioned the reaction to the Kasparaitis sign.
>They also made approving noises at the rest of the panoply of signs.
I HAVE to congratulate whoever did the "Walkcom Contact Lens Fund"
sign. Great stuff.
>News about a former Shark: The Isles were surprised when Pittsburgh
>took Larry dePalma off their waiver line.
Yup. Assigned him to Cleveland, and then about a day later, promoted him to
Pittsburgh. We might see him at the Pens game!
A side note about Larry. We saw an interview of him on one of the minor
league newspapers earlier this season, where he talked about trying to
get back to the NHL, but if it didn't work, that he'd really found a
home in Salt Lake, loved the area and the team, and felt that he
wouldn't be unhappy to stay there, too. So I was a bit hurt for him
when I heard he'd been sucked away and sent to Cleveland, but I guess
playing in Pittsburgh isn't quiet as bad. And then, about two days later, it
was announced that the Salt Lake franchise is being sold, and will likely be
in Detroit next year. No more Golden Eagles at all. Some guys just don't get
any breaks.
>apparent deflection: Hextall and the announcers thought Errey hit the
>puck with his skate. The tape wasn't very conclusive, but Errey jumped
>a foot or so into the air, and his stick blade was not far from his skates.
>From our view, even if it DID deflect off his skate, it was an unintentional
deflection (which counts) and not a kick-in (which wouldn't). I don't think
ANYONE saw the puck in all that traffic, and it seemed to pinball around
multiple legs, sticks, pads, whatever on the trip. From our angle, the
legitimacy was never really in question. (on the other hand, the first goal
against Irbe by the Sabres, the one that Walkom refused to have checked, was
CLEARLY not a goal, as the Sabre was in the crease well ahead fo the puck
and standing on Arturs. Definitely a wrongheaded call by Walkcom).
>The Isles arrived in SJ from Vancouver at 3 a.m., having played on five
>of seven days on two coasts(Fri.@NYR, Sat.@NYI, Mon.@Winn., Wed.@Van.,
>Th.@SJ). I'm amazed they seemed so energetic last night.
Interesting side-comment on this. According to someone I know who's an Isles
fan, the Islanders brought up a farm goalie for the Canucks game to back up
McLeanan, who started that game. The reason they did this is because Hextall
asked to be sent to San Jose ahead of the rest of the team so he could be
fully rested for us, so he wasn't even IN Vancouver.
Think of the implications of that. The Isles spent a non-trivial amount of
money to bring in a goalie, so Hextall could be ready for us. They were
basically willing to give up 2 points in Vancouver to guarantee a win here.
Hextall made a special effort to be rested and focussed for the game against
us.
And we beat him.
But in general, I find it amazing that teams are not only throwing their
number one goalies at us consistently (the only backup I can think of recently
is Fuhr, and see what we did to him!). How far we've come in one year.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:24 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:24:02 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
>I agree, they're probably pretty unhappy about all this success, and will
>change the rules next year. We suckered them in with that terrible start
>this year (I think the pizza policy was not established until several weeks
>into the season).
I dunno, with last year, it evens out. (and the policy was in place for the
first game). Last year it was three, this year, four. It'll be five or six
next year.
Of course, for the Penguins it's seven. We have a ways to go.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 14:33 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:30:34 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
>From: email@hidden (Mari)
>
>Have y'all had more free pizza than you ever thought possible?!
>Don't you just know that next year they will inevitable up the requirement
> to 5 goals?
It's SIX goals at the Cap Centre (or whatever they're calling the
Landover rink nowadays)...
And for the record, here's a list of Pizza Nights so far:
10/23 Vancouver 6 SHARKS 4
10/28 Anaheim 3 SHARKS 4
11/5 Dallas 2 SHARKS 4
11/23 Detroit 4 SHARKS 6
1/15 Hartford 2 SHARKS 8
2/8 Chicago 3 SHARKS 4
2/11 Chicago 3 SHARKS 4
2/15 Philadelphia 6 SHARKS 4
2/19 Los Angeles 3 SHARKS 4
3/3 Edmonton 2 SHARKS 4
3/6 Anaheim 0 SHARKS 6
3/8 Buffalo 4 SHARKS 4
3/10 Islanders 3 SHARKS 4
have fun
gak
P.S. Sharks are outscoring their opponents 18-9 so far this March.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 15:04 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:03:14 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Playoff Chase
This same thinking also holds true for catching Vancouver. If we sweep
vancouver (3 games) we have an excellent chance of catching them. Now the
liklihood of sweeping vancouver is small, but that was true of chicago as
well.
erik
>Deep in Chuq's wonderful playoff analysis lies this:
>
>>LA: three games, two away
>
>Thats 6 points right there. If we lose all three, they are only three back
>if we play even with them the rest of the way. If we win any of the three,
>it should be over.
>
>Lets hope Barry Melrose doesn't have the opportunity to be 1994's Tom
>Lasorda.
>
>geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 15:39 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 15:37:18 PDT
From: (Philip Jeuck)
Subject: Re: Throwing things on the ice
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:17:42 PST
>From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
>Subject: Throwing things on the ice
>
>Philip Jeuck writes:
>
>So you're saying it's okay to throw things on the ice? How about 5
>water bottles? How about 1000 bottles? How about 17,000 bottles?
>Where do you draw the line? And why is your-line-minus-one okay, but
>your-line-plus-one not okay? The line MUST be drawn at 0. I do not
>spend almost $100 to bring my family to a game to watch the maintenance
>staff clean up garbage from "fans" who feel a need to throw things on
>the ice.
No, that's not what I meant. I meant it was stupid to ban people bringing
in water bottles just because one was thrown on the ice. Especially when
the arena provides virtually the same container for sale.
Throwing things on the ice is never acceptable behavior (except hats,
octopi, and dead fish :-)).
>Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
>National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for
any>Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification.">email@hidden.
com Zbigniew Brzezinski>>
Phil Jeuck
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 16:12 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 16:11:27 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: KGB Agent
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<< think the general contractor (along with the subcontractor)>>
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That doesn't sound too bad - a double agent, cover PCs and Hockey!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 16:17 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 16:14:26 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
Ed muses:
"I wonder, was there any kind of ice conditioning before that?"
In pre-Zamboni days I conditioning was limited to scraping the
surface with snow shovels, followed by application of water with
hoses. Before a game, the maintenance staff would carefully
scrape the surface (back and forth MANY times!) with shovels, and
then a layer of water would be added. During intermissions, the
scraping would be done, but typically no more water would be added.
The original Zamboni was built on a Jeep chassis, and ice rinks have
not been the same since!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 16:22 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 16:22:41 PST
From: email@hidden (Doug Fierro)
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
>
>>
>> Have y'all had more free pizza than you ever thought possible?!
>> Don't you just know that next year they will inevitable up the requirement
>> to 5 goals?
>
>I wonder how many of those stubs are actually redeemed. Since you can't use
>them at the arena and they're only good for a week and only for a $3 pizza, I
>would imagine that very few are actually used. I know that in my case I've
>only redeemed a stub once and that was because of a coincidence.
They are redeemed enough for some Round Table places to have their
cash registers set up to have the receipts print "redeem ticket" or
something like that when you turn the ticket stub in. I bet a lot
of people are using them. From just the last three games alone one
would hardly have to spend anything on lunch. But they do charge
96 cents for a regular soda!
I would not be surprised if the number of goals is upped to 5 next
season for pizza redemption.
Doug
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 16:30 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 16:28:41 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
pizza comments:
"I agree, they're probably pretty unhappy about all this success, and will
change the rules next year. We suckered them in with that terrible start
this year (I think the pizza policy was not established until several weeks
into the season)."
One thing some of you might have forgotten: last year it was:
"If the Sharks score three, the pizza's free!"
I seem to recall a discussion about this early in the season, and a
poster from back east mentioned that a team there (was it the Islanders?)
needed to score 6 to get a free pizza.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 16:41 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 16:31:39 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: Checking line
<I wonder, was there any kind of ice conditioning before that?
>On a related topic, the new San Jose Ice Center (where Sharks and
>ordinary people practice and where San Jose State plays games) has
>no Zamboni; it has an Olympia. This machine has a somewhat more
>streamlined appearance and a more powerful motor, and is the first
>of its kind I have ever seen.
I hear that the main advantage to it is that it runs off of a GMC engine
so replacement parts are easy to get. This is good as it breaks down more
often! No really... I'm slightly biased. You see my hockey team had to
play a game on bad ice a couple of times early on in the Olympia's life
due to it being out of order.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 17:15 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Sharks Playoff Tickets (fwd)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:14:18 -0800 (PST)
Ed Rush writes:
> The officially stated policy says it "may" be 2-3-2 for Central/Pacific
> series, but doesn't say who decides the issue. It says nothing at all
> about 3-4, and a good thing, too, because that would give an unfair
> advantage the the uppper seed. Either 2-3-2 or 2-2-1-1-1 splits the
> required four games evenly, and also splits the first six games evenly.
> If home ice is significant, then the 3-4 scheme puts the upper seed
> up 3-0 before the other team has a shot at it.
No. Again, I am not even sure that 3-4 is the option, but if it's 3-4, the
first three games will be at the home of the *lower seed*.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 17:46 PST 1994
From: "Jeffrey T. Johnson"
Subject: Re: Throwing Things on Ice
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 17:44:46 PST
>
>
>>I have a gut feeling that the hats will
>>rain down in San Jose for Ozolinsh at least
>>once this season. Do the Sharks have any hat tricks
>>this year?
>
>Larionov has one. I think that's the only one.
>
>
Gaudreau had one in Dallas
/jeff (who wears #37 at the epicenter)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 11 19:10 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 18:25:45 PST
From: Spartacus
Subject: SJ STATE
Hey hockey nuts,
If anyone finds themselves in need of a hockey fix, the Spartans of San Jose
State will face the Univ. of Nevada/Reno on Saturday the 12th. The game will
take place at the Ice Centre of San Jose at 10th/Alma St. Game time is 8:30pm.
The last two home games for the Spartans will be:
Friday, March 18th, 9:45 p.m. vs USC at the Ice Centre
Sunday, March 20th, 4:15 p.m. vs Fresno State at the Ice Centre
After those games it's off to state playoffs! For more info about Spartan
Hockey, call 408-993-8638
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 12 03:21 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Throwing Things on Ice (fwd)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 03:19:59 -0800 (PST)
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
> >I have a gut feeling that the hats will
> >rain down in San Jose for Ozolinsh at least
> >once this season. Do the Sharks have any hat tricks
> >this year?
>
> Larionov has one. I think that's the only one.
Rob Gaudreau also had one (against Dallas); he has 3 of the franchise's 5
hat tricks (Johan Garpenlov had the other one).
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 12 14:04 PST 1994
From: Valerie Schmitt
Subject: Re: PIZZA, PIZZA, PIZZA
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 17:03:32 -0500 (EST)
According to Alan Hepburn:
>
> pizza comments:
>
> I seem to recall a discussion about this early in the season, and a
> poster from back east mentioned that a team there (was it the Islanders?)
> needed to score 6 to get a free pizza.
I went to a game at the Caps center in February, and they gave away ice
cream for 4 goals, wings at a local restaurant for 5 and pizza for 6.
Luckily, they scored six that night, so my friends got lots of coupons!
(Coincidentally, the group at that game were talking then about how the
Sharks would have to change to more than four next year... small
sacrifice for success!)
Also, I have to report that the folks on the Isles list were mighty
peeved to lose to an "expansion team". Will they never learn?! :-)
Val
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 12 15:58 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 18:56:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "M. Van ryswyck"
Subject: unbeaten streak
Congrats to the Sharks for their five game unbeaten streak. Just
curious, is this their longest unbeaten streak?
|||
(. .)
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Mark Van Ryswyck
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 13 00:42 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 00:40:35 +0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Bothe)
Subject: Re: Missing insert card
>Help!
>
>I missed the insert card for the game on February 21st. Since I'm
>trying to complete a full set, I would really like to find this card!
>I believe it was Mark Beaufait?!? I have a few extra to trade if this
>would help anyone else collecting them.
>
>Thanks,
>Brian
>email@hidden
>
>
Missing lineup insert cards can be purchased at the Sharks store at Vallco
Fashion Park Mall. If you have your season ticket ID card, the cards cost
$1.70 including tax (not a bad deal considering they are $2.00 the night of
the game). They have lots of stock of most of the cards, and getting
Beaufait's should be no problem since he's not regularly played for the
Sharks.
--
Linda Rae via email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 13 08:36 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 08:30:06 PST
From: SJ STATE
Subject: SPARTANS WIN
Last night the SJ STATE SPARTAN hockey team defeatd Univ. of Nevada/Reno 8-4
at the Ice Centre. There has been a schedule change to the last posting.
The game on Friday the 18th will be against UC-Berkeley, NOT USC!
A game against CAL should be a better game anyway. Fore more info on games,
call 408-993-8638. See you there!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 10:04 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:00:41 EST
Subject: Olympia
>I hear that the main advantage to it is that it runs off of a GMC >engine
>so replacement parts are easy to get. This is good as it breaks >down more
>often! No really... I'm slightly biased. You see my hockey team >had to
>play a game on bad ice a couple of times early on in the Olympia's >life
>due to it being out of order.
They have an Olympia at the Forum in LA. maybe that explains something about
the Kings play this year, huh?
I think one of those bad ice Ice Centre games was against us panthers, and
you guys still kicked our ... so there goes all those bad ice arguments.
Also, a couple years ago, I had the opportunityto stay at the Resort at Squaw
Creek in Squaw Valley. they have a little skating pond (about the size of 1
zone on a real rink) there. The Zamboni is a box-like unit mounted on the
back of a little John Deere lawn tractor. Very cute. All of the upscale pond
owners in Green Bay must be coveting them.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 10:49 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 10:45 PST
From: email@hidden (Michael A. Shantzis)
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
On a similar topic...
Does anyone out there know the exact history of the zamboni? In particular,
where was it invented? I heard rumors that it came out of (believe it or not)
Burbank CA. I'd love to confirm or deny this rumor before I continue to spread
it.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 11:05 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 12:30:51 EST
Subject: Kaspairitis
>On SportsChannel NY, the camera found that sign and caused
>Jiggs Macdonald and partner to laugh for four or five seconds -- a
>long time on the air.
>They went on to say at Kasparaitis was probably enjoying it at >home,
>and that his medical tests showed that he just had a sprained wrist.
I had the "privilege" of watching this game from a SportsChannel NY camera
position with a friend from art school who works camera for them, and was on
headset with the crew, who thought it was hilarious...they said that only
Rangers fans hate Darius more than these "sickos" out here. High praise
indeed.
Also, hearing the director of the broadcast yell into the headset "what the
hell is that damn "Russian" (sic) doing?" as Irbe left the net and fanned on
an attempted stop behind the net was my personal highlight of the evening.
As someone posted here a long while ago, and the NY crew concurs: That damn
Latvian is going to give someone a heart attack.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 11:20 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 09:56:09 PST
Subject: Day of game tickets
I'm not holding out much hope of getting tickets for this Sunday's game off
this list so I'm ready to explore other options. What is the story with day
of game tickets at the arena? What time do they open on a Sunday? What time
would I have to get there to get two (I'm willing to buy expensive seats)?
Are the tickets available that morning through BASS?
Another option is to stand around outside trying to pick up singles. Has
anyone here tried this for a Sharks/Kings' game? Which door is better? How
much of a premium should I expect to pay?
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 11:35 PST 1994
Date: 14 Mar 1994 11:20:26 -0800
From: "Mike Hedblom"
Subject: Re- Yesterday in history
Re: Yesterday in history
>Does anyone out there know the exact history of the zamboni? In particular,
>where was it invented? I heard rumors that it came out of (believe it or
>not) Burbank CA. I'd love to confirm or deny this rumor before I continue
>to spread it.
About two years ago the Murky News ran a story about Mr. Zamboni, the inventor
of the machine. As I recall, he was in Michigan, or some other state near
there. Zamboni owned an ice rink and wanted to speed up the time it took to
fix the ice. His machine reduced the time from 45 minutes to 15 (for his
rink). At first many of the ice hockey venues didn't like the machine because
it reduced the time fans had to buy concessions, and many fans stayed to watch
the machine rather than buy concessions. You can find the article on micro
film at the S.J main branch library.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 12:03 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:57:12 CST
From: ed
Subject: free stuff with goals
in st. louis you have to get five goals and a win.then they give you a free
cheeseburger from McDonalds. good deal,huh? also, could someone send me a
schedule of the rest of the season,please. all we get on the sharks here is
the AP releases,and the NHL schedule is only released on a 1 day basis.Finally,
am i the only one that is not from a - .com - place? im from an - .edu - and
feel left out.thanks.
Ed Cracchiola
email@hidden
Go Sharks!!!!! Ducks Suck!!!!!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 12:33 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 12:25:55 PST
From: email@hidden (Brian Calverley x6990)
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
> From email@hidden Mon Mar 14 11:47:12 1994
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 10:45 PST
> From: email@hidden (Michael A. Shantzis)
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
> Sender: email@hidden
> Content-Length: 263
>
> On a similar topic...
>
> Does anyone out there know the exact history of the zamboni? In particular,
> where was it invented? I heard rumors that it came out of (believe it or not)
> Burbank CA. I'd love to confirm or deny this rumor before I continue to spread
> it.
The story I heard is that it was invented in southern cal. by the guy who
started the iceland arenas. The first one used in the NHL was purchased from
the Zamboni people in southern cal. by Bill Wurtz owner of the Chicago Blackhawks, and used in Chicago stadium.
I heard (?????) they drove it from LA to Chicago also.
I believe the Mercury News had this story when the were doing articles about hockey trivia during the sharks first season.
Anyone have any other input????
BC
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 12:48 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 12:46:54 PST
From: email@hidden (Gary Merrick)
Subject: Re: Checking line
> < < < < < <
> It's been the story with Sharks all year. Most of the games I've seen
> the opposing team was having a BBQ in front of the goal. Thank God
> the rest of the play has picked up to offset Sharks inability to clear
> the crease. What we need is a few folks big enough to throw their
> weight around in front of the goal. Cronin is a good example but I am
> not sure he's playing as good as he can. All other defenders are
> still young and are to shy to hit. Sharks need a real checking line.
>
We can always have Rathje flip them if they're standing too close. ;-)
I've pointed out to my girlfriend many instances when you'll see an
opposing player come flying up at a Shark and BOOM! Big hit. Then, a
few minutes, later you'll see a Shark seeking revenge. They meekly
head towards the opposing player, and kinda glance off the side of
them and run into the boards. She thinks it's "cute". :-|
Gary
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 13:06 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: Sign in Chron
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:02:49 -0800 (PST)
The "We can cure Kasparitis.." sign was also mentioned
in Ross McKeon's column in the Sunday Chronicle/Examiner.
JC
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 13:42 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:41:46 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Day of game tickets
> I'm not holding out much hope of getting tickets for this Sunday's game...
>
> Another option is to stand around outside trying to pick up singles. Has
> anyone here tried this for a Sharks/Kings' game? Which door is better? How
> much of a premium should I expect to pay?
There is a regular organization, gang, company, or whatever you want to
call them, who scalp tickets for several blocks around the Epicenter.
These "agents" have relatively fixed positions near the train station
and parking areas, and a man with a bicycle makes the rounds, presumably
balancing their ticket stocks.
I don't know what their prices are, but I once sold an excess ticket to
a scalper at the Palace of Fine Cows. As I recall, I got $5 or $6 for my
$12 ticket and the guy who eventually bought it paid $15.
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 14:26 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 14:26:36 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Sharks Playoff Tickets (fwd)
> > > ..., there's been talk of having the series be played 2-3-2
> > > rather than 2-2-1-1-1. ...
> >
> > The officially stated policy says it "may" be 2-3-2 for Central/Pacific
> > series, but doesn't say who decides the issue.
Over the weekend, Mike Weaver in the M-N said it *will* be 2-3-2,
and that the upper seed has the option of whether to start the series
at home or on the road. The benefit of starting on the road would be
a home advantage over the first five games, but then they would give
up the seven-game home advantage.
Note: home advantage is not just the little edge for the team, but
also ticket sales.
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 14:44 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 12:41:58 EST
Subject: Re:Re:Throwing Things...
>>I have a gut feeling that the hats will
>>rain down in San Jose for Ozolinsh at least
>>once this season. Do the Sharks have any hat tricks
>>this year?
>Larionov has one. I think that's the only one.
I believe Rob Gaudreau (I only score in threes, kind of like celebrities
dying?) scored his 3rd (eerie, huh?) against Dallas in the 7-1 win behind
Jimmy Waite.
That would make 3 for Rob, 1 for Johan, 1 for Igor...any others?
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 16:20 PST 1994
Date: 14 Mar 1994 16:13:39 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: USA in 1998?
Reply to: RE>> USA in 1998?
Just catching up on some old messages...
Mike Eisler sez:
>>If the owners are looking for a way to promote the league they should
>>go after CBS's big Sunday hole
>
>In order to this, they have to wait for ESPN/ABC contract to expire,
>which runs for at least 3 more years.
Actually, I believe The Hockey News had a rumor a couple of weeks ago that the
NHL was thinking of renegotiating with ESPN in order to free up more games that
could be packaged and sold to other networks or local stations; however, I
don't believe that CBS was mentioned specifically.
I don't remember whether the rumored buyout was possible because of an escape
clause in the current contract or because ESPN was losing enough money that
they might be receptive.
Anyone else remember reading this or am I having more hallucinations than
usual? It was probably in either in Steve Dryden's column or Stan Fischler's.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 16:43 PST 1994
Date: 14 Mar 1994 16:22:25 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Possible Sign For Sunday
Subject: Time:4:14 PM
OFFICE MEMO Possible Sign For Sunday Date:3/14/94
All the talk about the wonderful Kasparitis sign got me to thinking about
possible signs for one of the most critical games of the entire season:
Sunday's game against LA.
How about:
"LA Kings: Worst NHL Team In California"
or, alternately:
"LA Kings: 2nd Best Team In Southern California"
Or is that hitting too far below the belt?
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 17:17 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:14:59 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Day of game tickets
>> I'm not holding out much hope of getting tickets for this Sunday's game...
>>
>> Another option is to stand around outside trying to pick up singles. Has
>> anyone here tried this for a Sharks/Kings' game? Which door is better? How
>> much of a premium should I expect to pay?
>
>There is a regular organization, gang, company, or whatever you want to
>call them, who scalp tickets for several blocks around the Epicenter.
>These "agents" have relatively fixed positions near the train station
>and parking areas, and a man with a bicycle makes the rounds, presumably
>balancing their ticket stocks.
>
>I don't know what their prices are, but I once sold an excess ticket to
>a scalper at the Palace of Fine Cows. As I recall, I got $5 or $6 for my
>$12 ticket and the guy who eventually bought it paid $15.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> | Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
> | Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
> | Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
> ------------------------------------------------------
You can usually find people selling extra tickets (non scalpers) right
across the street from the arena (by all the palm trees).
I recall hearing that the sharks hold a small number of tickets (~500)
until game day and sell them in the morning at the box office.
erik
==============================================================
Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
==============================================================
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 18:17 PST 1994
Date: 14 Mar 1994 18:13:24 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Day of game tickets
Reply to: RE>>Day of game tickets
Erik Schwartz sez:
>I recall hearing that the sharks hold a small number of tickets (~500)
>until game day and sell them in the morning at the box office.
I believe what actually happens is that all the unsold BASS tickets, plus any
unused tickets allocated to the players, team officials, and NHL officials, are
sold the morning of the game at 9:30AM at the Arena box office. The morning of
the game, the Murky News publishes an informational box on the game that lists
the number of tickets that will be available that morning.
However, I don't believe that means that there will ALWAYS be tickets sold the
morning of the game. For almost every game this season, the morning Murky News
has indicated that SOME tickets will go on sale that morning (usually
300-2000). But for the last Anaheim game...NADA. The morning-of-the-game box
in the paper left out the information on game day tickets because it really was
sold out ahead of time. Presumably the Ducks players and officials used the
all the tickets that were allocated for them.
I suspect that the LA game will really be sold out, too, particularly given how
crucial that game is to both teams. But even if the Murky News doesn't say
that there will be any tickets sold at 9:30AM doesn't mean that you shouldn't
try. It's conceivable that a handful of tickets might go on sale that morning,
but not enough for the Sharks to publicize it.
So the bottom line is: if you live within easy driving distance of the Arena,
it's probably worth showing up at 9AM or earlier the morning of the game. If
you don't live very close or you're a late sleeper, then you'll have to take
your chances with a scalper or a person who got stuck with too many tickets.
Even then, I'd get to the Arena well before game time, particularly if you need
two seats together.
I predict that this will not be a game where the scalpers will get stuck with
tickets...
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 14 21:14 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 21:12:29 PST
From: email@hidden (Mari)
Subject: Gretzky Record Pace
How many goals does Gretzky need to *tie* Howe's record?
What is the Kings schedule for this week?
Anyone?
-mari
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 01:48 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 01:48:24 PST
>Does anyone out there know the exact history of the zamboni? In particular,
>where was it invented? I heard rumors that it came out of (believe it or not)
>Burbank CA. I'd love to confirm or deny this rumor before I continue to sprea
d
>it.
It was invented at the Iceland rink in Paramount, CA. The rink is still
active. I skated there as a kid. I won't say how long ago that was. :-)
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 07:49 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 07:47 PST
From: email@hidden (It's Only Me)
Subject: HELP! I need tickets!!
For Sunday the 20th against the King's. I'm on a personal mission and
waited too long to get the tix. Now they're sold out. I really would
prefer something in the $65 section but at this point, if I can just
be there, I'll be happy!!! I can't read my email very often so if you
are out there and can help me, feel free to leave me voice mail at:
510-215-3562.
Thank you in advance any and everyone! I appreciate it!
Laura.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Laura Shaffer He's got 30 seconds to defuse
PIXAR - The Computer Picture Company the bomb before it blows.
Richmond, CA USA All he needs is...A HOCKEY TICKET!!
email: email@hidden
- MacGyverism #6
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 07:50 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:43:35 CST
From: ed
Subject: thank you
thanks for the schedule. it worked fine. also,the online schedule is out of
colorado edu. if we make the playoffs,is anyone intrested in selling 1st round
tickets? i'd love to come down for a game. it would be my first at the new
arena(2 at cow palace). also, if i send you money, could you buy me tickets?
thank you. and anytime your in st. louis,let me know. Section 208,row A seat
1-2. thanks again.
Ed Cracchiola
email@hidden
Go Sharks!!!!!!! Ducks Suck!!!!!!!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 09:39 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:28:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Derek LeLash)
Subject: tickets 4 sale, 3/17
I have two tickets available for the Senators game Thursday. Section 220,
$14 each or $28 for the pair (imagine that!). Please e-mail if interested.
Derek
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 09:59 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:59:53 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Gretzky Record Pace
> How many goals does Gretzky need to *tie* Howe's record?
> What is the Kings schedule for this week?
Wayne G. needs three goals to tie Howe's NHL record, and about 172
to tie his career record (including the WHA). He has gone scoreless
his las four games, but tonight the Kings play Ottawa.
Tomorrow LA plays the Ducks, and Saturday and Sunday they play
the Sharks.
BTW, last Saturday night, when LA lost to Buffalo, both Gretzky
(in an interview between periods) and the LA announcers were very
concerned about blowing this chance to gain a couple of points
on SJ. I love it!
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 10:37 PST 1994
Date: 15 Mar 1994 10:21:32 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Gretzky Record Pace
Reply to: RE>Gretzky Record Pace
Mari Lynne asks:
>How many goals does Gretzky need to *tie* Howe's record? What is the
>Kings schedule for this week?
Gretzky needs three goals to tie Gordie Howe's record and four to break it.
The Kings play Ottawa today at home, and Anaheim tomorrow (also at home, I
believe). The Kings then play the Sharks at home on Saturday, and in San Jose
on Sunday afternoon.
So the odds of Gretzky tying and/or breaking the record against San Jose are
pretty good, even though he hasn't scored a goal in well over a week. Brings
to mind another possible sign for Sunday's game, assuming Gretzky hasn't
already broken the record by then. How (oooh, sorry about the unintentional
pun!) about:
"Gordie! Gordie! Gordie!"
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 11:17 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:16:27 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Admin: digest glitches
Readers of the digests have been getting multiples copies of them. This is
just a note to let you know that I've tracked down and fixed the problem.
Sorry about that, folks.
chuq
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 12:12 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 11:52:53 PDT
Subject: Re: Gretzky Record Pace
Ed Rush sez:
>Wayne G. needs three goals to tie Howe's NHL record, and about 172
>to tie his career record (including the WHA). He has gone
>scoreless his las four games, but tonight the Kings play Ottawa.
>Tomorrow LA plays the Ducks, and Saturday and Sunday they play
>the Sharks.
>
I was looking at the schedules this morning and, frankly, I'm a bit
nervous about the Kings and how close they are to us. If they beat
the Ducks tomorrow, the pressure is really on for the Sharks to beat
Ottawa and to take at least one game from the Kings this weekend. But
I guess every game is a "must-win" until April 13th.
Nail-biting time in March. And I'm enjoying every minute of it!
- Ron Barnett
219/4/8&9
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 12:52 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:50:29 PST
Subject: What was the Sharks v. Flames Final Score?
Could someone please post this? What happened to all the cool game summaries
that used to be posted? Thanks for the info.
--Tom Wilcox
UCD Telecommunications
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 13:05 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:32:47 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: 2 for 1 swap?
Hey gang, I asked once before, but I'll try again....
Anyone interested in swapping one really good club seat for two really good
$38 seats (sec 120 row 6 seats 8-9 (aisle)). I just want to have that 'club'
experience once:-) Any game except Ottawa (I'm out of town), LA and the
Edmonton season finale (the second ticket already spoken for for those games).
Girard Ramsay
email@hidden
120/6/8-9
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 13:27 PST 1994
Date: 15 Mar 1994 13:29:08 -0800
From: "Joe Balboa"
Subject: just for Laura S.
just for Laura S.
Please call me @ 408 974-1890.
-joe
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 13:38 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 16:34:43 EST
Subject: Blades Update
All three games this past weekend were on the road.
Blades lost to the Komets Friday night in Ft. Worth. Score was 7-3. The
Komets scored four straight goals in the third period. Corwin Saurdif was in
goal and faced 47 shots.
Saturday Milwaukee beat the Blades 7-4, again Saurdif in goal.
Sunday the Blades beat Milwaukee 8-3. Ryder was in goal. David Bruce had a
hat trick and Courtenay had two goals. Dody Wood had a goal and a fight.
(As you can tell one of my Blades sources is a big Dody Wood fan and always
lets me know when Wood "smokes" someone.)
The Blades play Phoenix Thursday at home and then travel this weekend to
Peoria Saturday and Atlanta Sunday.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 13:40 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:40:12 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: administrivia
1. I'm on vacation next week, so I won't be able to log in to the Sharks
server. If you want to be changed to a digest format or want off the list,
let me know before Friday.
2. Sending mail to sharks-request will send mail to me. It doesn't send to
the list, and no one else but me sees it. I've been averaging about 2 pieces
of mail a day that ought to go to the list or to someone else on the list.
If I'm not here to read it, it doesn't get passed on.
3. Digest people--cron hiccuped, so you've been getting two copies of the
digest for the last day and a half. I have the digest sent to me on another
system out on the Internet, so I can tell how long the mail delays are, and
if the mail is barfing. The cron problem has been taken care of.
4. We have over 300 people on this list.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 13:44 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: Kings Crackup--How Come?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:25:47 -0800 (PST)
Now that we are coming down to the showdown with the
L.A. Kings, has anyone figured out why they stink so
bad this year?
They came very close--about 1/4 inch of the curve of
McSorley's stick, actually--from winning the cup last year.
Hrudey was solid in the nets. Gretzky, Kurri, Sandstrom,
Robatille could all put the puck in the net, and Reichel,
Granato added some chippiness/toughness. Carson looked like
he was just starting to put his act together and become
a key contributor.
Blake and McSorley were fearsome on defense, and Sidoor was a
coming star.
What changed? What went wrong? Losing McSorley for most of the
season certainly hurt, but I don't think they've played much
better since his return. Who else is gone from last year's
cup finalists? Who has stopped performing?
****
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 14:13 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 13:19:52 PST
From: kahului!email@hidden (Douglas J Whisler)
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
>
>
> It was invented at the Iceland rink in Paramount, CA. The rink is still
> active. I skated there as a kid. I won't say how long ago that was. :-)
>
> Ken Zarifes
I was there for a NNHA playoff about 6yrs ago. (Aside from holes in the
boards, an OK facility) In one corner, there's an antique Zamboni machine.
Worth a stop if you're in the neighborhood.
- DW
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 14:29 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:26:24 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: Gretzky Record Pace
>From: "Dave Comstock"
>
>"Gordie! Gordie! Gordie!"
Heh. I like this a *lot*.
have fun
gak (there is only one mister hockey)
209/15/19&20
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 15:07 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:07:18 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Kings Crackup--How Come?
>What changed? What went wrong? Losing McSorley for most of the
>season certainly hurt, but I don't think they've played much
>better since his return. Who else is gone from last year's
>cup finalists? Who has stopped performing?
Here's my opinion on the Kings: It's Melrose's fault.
The entire TEAM is playing badly this year.
Partly, the problem is that some of the players just woke up in October old.
Taylor, for one. Huddy's no spring chicken. I think they waited a little too
long to rebuild and age caught up with them. I also think they
over-performed somewhat last year, and couldn't sustain.
But beyond that, there are a number of issues that I lay right on the head
of the coach. Early on, Melrose was publically whining about how the team
simply wasn't competitive and couldn't win without McSorley. That kind of
attitude from the TOP is very destructive. The Kings believed him, and proved
him right by not winning. (as an analog, last year, the Sharks were "just
being taught the game and not expected to win" by gentleman george, and they
by most accounts underperformed and didn't win. This year, Constantine
believes that nothing less than playing in June is acceptable, and guess
what? The attitude of the coaches and management is crucial. Honesty is
important, but so is setting the tone of the team, and the tone Melrose set
all year was one of whining instead of performing).
Then McSorley DID come back, in what may go down as one of the strangest
sets of trades in the league, they lost a couple of more games, and the
McSorley went out and got suspended (he is STILL whining about it. In the
latest hockey news, they again quote him as saying we embellished the tape
and simply beaten the tar out of Errey if he wanted to. I know, from being
there, that Errey's eye was bleeding when he left the ice, and going for
someone's eye -- which would put him out of the game forever -- is not a
simple mugging. No tolerance from me, McFly).
Their goaltending is, to be charitable, inconsistent. Their goalies more or
less all have career years last year (heck, they even got solid stuff out of
Rick Knickle!) and fell back to ear this year. But goalie problems combined
with no defensive discipline causes problems.
Beyond that, Melrose's tolerated a very sloppy, undisciplined game style all
season. Look at the bad to non-existant defense, the stupid penalties, the
special team problems -- this is a team that's out of control, not playing
well AS a team, and simply doesn't seem to know how to play good hockey
consistently.
And now, when it's late, they're simply whining. Read this morning where
Melrose is now simply saying "there's no reason they should be losing. It's
their fault, and tey're simply playing crappy" (or some such).
Nope. They were conditioned by the coach all year to be a mediocre team.
They ARE a mediocre team. Some of it is because of age. Some of it is
because players played better last year than they ought to have expected,
and fell back towards normal. Part of it, though, is lack of discipline and
a losing attitude from the top, and that's infectious to the rest of the
team.
Melrose pretty clearly doesn't have the respect of his players, and seems to
coach well when everything works well and he has killer talent backing him
up, but in my eyes fell apart completely as soon as things got tough. He's
dead meat, as soon as the rest of the team goes off to play golf in
mid-April (hey, he's dead meat even if they pull off a miracle and catch
us). And I expect at least 6-8 new players in Kings uniforms next season as
they nudge out the aging veterans who really need to be nudged.
And I think, frankly, that they really miss Taylor more than most people
would think. That jersey ought to fly in the rafters, folks.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 16:46 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 16:44:05 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
It was written:
"I was there for a NNHA playoff about 6yrs ago. (Aside from holes in the
boards, an OK facility) In one corner, there's an antique Zamboni machine.
Worth a stop if you're in the neighborhood."
Does the rink in Paramount still have chain link where the glass
should be? Zamboni apparently is reluctant to modernise their rinks
in northern California (Berkeley, Dublin, and Belmont). The
dumpiest rinks are owned by Zamboni.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 16:52 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Nancy E. Loe)
Subject: Re[2]: Melrose (fwd)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:50:16 -0800 (PST)
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>From email@hidden Tue Mar 15 15:33:02 1994
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Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 14:45:48 PST
From: "david"
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Subject: Re[2]: Melrose
Does anyone think this is a last-ditch effort by the front office to
see if the players will "play for their coach"? It seems kind of
funny to have a leak that a coach will be fired, then say "No comment
until the end of the season."
Any thoughts?
Dave Bell
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Subject: Re: Melrose
Author: "Bobbi Dunfee" at slink
Date: 3/15/94 2:10 PM
BACK ATCHA RE>Melrose
I heard at lunch (on XTRA 690) that the organization issued a statement that
no changes will be announced until the end of the season. I think this would
be a really stupid time to change anything w.r.t. daily operations... too
late to have _any_ positive impact.
BTW, I also think it should be
short-sighted--can't-make-a-good-trade--let-me-pay-players-to-sit Beverly
that "hangs"... not Melrose. Like him or not, Melrose operates as
"advertised". Dare I say, IMO, he's been good for the organization.
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Date: 3/15/94 1:45 PM
From: email@hidden
KINGS NOTES...
The Los Angeles Kings are reportedly on the verge of firing Head Coach
Barry Melrose. The NEW YORK POST says informed sources in Los Angeles
said that the move could come before tonight's game against Ottawa. It
also says Rick Dudley, Head Coach of the Kings' minor league affiliate at
Phoenix, is the expected choice to take over.
If these rumors prove to be true, I don't know...Dudley might be a good
coach, but the Kings have gone through a BUNCH of coaches in their
history...almost as many coaches in as many years as they've been in
existence. I think the players are as much, if not more, to blame for
the team's failure this season. Melrose shouldn't be made the scapegoat.
Gann
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email@hidden Robert E. Kennedy Library
805/756-2305 (tel) California Polytechnic State University
805/756-1415 (fax) San Luis Obispo, CA 93407
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 17:58 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 17:56:17 -0800
From: John Onusko
Subject: Re: Yesterday in history
> Does the rink in Paramount still have chain link where the glass
> should be? Zamboni apparently is reluctant to modernise their rinks
> in northern California (Berkeley, Dublin, and Belmont). The
> dumpiest rinks are owned by Zamboni.
>
They get away with it because the market did not demand that they
upgrade. But now, with two new rinks in the area, they are starting to
feel the pressure to modernize. Case in point: Belmont - currently,
they are installing new boards. I'm sure part of the reason for the
upgrade was because they lost HNA/Pacific Hockey Assoc. to the new S.J.
rink.
John
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 18:02 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Re: Senators tickets 4 sale
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:01:22 -0800 (PST)
Oops! I sent my ticket advertisement from the wrong machine, so anyone
who's sent me mail about it, I probably didn't get it. Again, I have two
$14 tickets available for the Sens game this Thursday. E-mail to *this*
address if you're interested.
Derek
--
Derek LeLash, SrTechWriter/INFP|"I could tell you 'bout the nights when I was
BASYS Automation Systems, Inc. | lonely, and you were the only one who'd talk.
home: email@hidden | I could tell you that I like your sensitivity,
work: email@hidden| but you know it's the way that you walk." (EC)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 18:19 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:18:16 -0800
From: email@hidden (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: Sign for sunday!
I can promise that Sundays sign will be shown! No hints about content,
but....Be on the lookout!!!!
Ellon St. Croix
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All the talk about the wonderful Kasparitis sign got me to thinking about
possible signs for one of the most critical games of the entire season:
Sunday's game against LA.
How about:
"LA Kings: Worst NHL Team In California"
or, alternately:
"LA Kings: 2nd Best Team In Southern California"
Or is that hitting too far below the belt?
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 19:04 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:02:43 +0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Bothe)
Subject: Re: Kings Crackup--How Come?
>>What changed? What went wrong? Losing McSorley for most of the
>>season certainly hurt, but I don't think they've played much
>>better since his return. Who else is gone from last year's
>>cup finalists? Who has stopped performing?
>
>Here's my opinion on the Kings: It's Melrose's fault.
>
>The entire TEAM is playing badly this year.
>
Apparently the Kings owners agree with you. I heard on espn2 that if the
Kings lose tonight, Melrose is gone gone gone.
--
Michael email@hidden THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 19:52 PST 1994
Date: 15 Mar 1994 19:49:17 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: European Prospect Report
Subject: Time:7:21 PM
OFFICE MEMO European Prospect Report Date:3/15/94
The March 11th issue of The Hockey News includes the current statistics for
each player in the Czech Republic, Finnish, Russian Interstate, Slovakian, and
Swedish Leagues who has been drafted by an NHL team.
The stats for the Sharks prospects are shown below in the usual format:
games-goals-assists-total points-penalty minutes for skaters,
games-minutes-goals-GAA for the goalies. By the way, Alexander Osadchy (also
spelled "Osadchi") plays for the "Red Penguins", CSKA Moscow. CSKA Moscow
toured the IHL recently, playing one game against each of the thirteen IHL
teams, including the Kansas City Blades. The games against CSKA Moscow count
in the IHL standings.
Jan Caloun (RW, Chemopetrol Litvinov, Czech Republic League)
38-25-17-42
Ville Peltonen (LW, HIFK Helsinki, Finnish League)
33-14-13-27-14
Petri Varis (LW, Jokerit Helsinki, Finnish League)
21-9-9-18-10
Viktor Kozlov (LW, Dynamo Moscow, Russian Interstate League)
32-13-8-21
Alexander Osadchy (D, CSKA Moscow, Russian Interstate League)
35-2-3-5 (in Russian Interstate league games)
11-0-5-5-24 (in IHL games)
Marcus Ragnarsson (D, Djurgarden Stockholm, Swedish League)
20-0-4-4-24
Marcus Thuresson (C, Leksand, Swedish League)
23-3-3-6-22
Jonas Forsberg (G, Djurgarden Stockholm, Swedish League)
1-60-4-4.00
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 15 21:48 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 21:42:10 PST
From: Going crazy
Subject: Zamboni songs
I sorry if this is off the topic, and I don't mean to start a big debate, but,
is anyone as sick of the "zamboni song" and the "hockey game" song as I am.
This song used to be enjoyful to listen to and even sing along once in awhile,
but it is played at EVERY game. If I hear that song one more time I can not be
held responsible for my actions. Am I alone out there?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 06:51 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 06:51:10 PST
From: email@hidden (Robert Diebold)
Subject: Melrose & the Kings
I listened to the Kings/Senators game last night and heard a snippet of the
interview with a front-office type who stated that Barry's job was not in
danger, he implied that all of this controversy would blow over after the
Kings swept their next four games (Ottawa, Anaheim, Sharks x 2), and Monday
morning found them just one point out of the final playoff position.
During the game it was reported that the morning skate had been unusual,
although the description of it sounded much like the description given during
the game with the Sabres: not much skating, mostly sitting in the locker room
talking. What was different about this time, was that Anthony Robbins was
present; look at the result - a 7-0 pasting of the Senators!
Do the Sharks need to worry? First they have to play a thoroughly humiliated
team and then the "we believe in ourselves and each other again" Kings. Not
if they are willing to play the body; I have never seen a Kings team that
could take it, and this year they seem to have a "you can't hit me like that;
I play for the Stanley Cup runnerup Kings" attitude. Just look at their
penalty minutes and the types and amounts of suspensions they have received
this year. If you hit them, they will fold!
\||
O Be seeing you...
Robert Diebold A San Jose Sharks, Cardiff Devils, Glamorgan,
email@hidden Sydney Swans, & Manchester United supporter.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 08:11 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:11:35 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
>danger, he implied that all of this controversy would blow over after the
>Kings swept their next four games (Ottawa, Anaheim, Sharks x 2), and Monday
>morning found them just one point out of the final playoff position.
Ah, but what if (gasp) they don't? As though a four game sweep is
simple....
Frankly, all the Sharks really need to do is beat Ottawa and the Kings once
to pretty much cement it barring injury or collapse.
?Do the Sharks need to worry?
Yes. Our primary problem is overconfidence. We need to salt the playoff spot
away and not wait for the Kings to hand it to us. Beyond that, NEVER count a
team with Gretzky out. If the Kings miss the playoffs this year, it will be
the first time in his career his team has missed. He has NEVER not been in
the playoffs.
My guess is that if it takes strapping on pads and playing goal to make the
playoffs, Gretzky would do it. This weekend's series is crucial, since it's
a chance for the Sharks to stop whatever momentum they're trying to build
cold, and send them back to the locker room muttering.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 08:25 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:24:11 +0800
From: email@hidden (John Reed)
Subject: last game 4/13
I went to the box office yesterday and got some tickets for the last
(regular season home) game on 4/13. There seems to be lots of seats
available in 209, so I grabbed some. So, why is section 209 so
available?? Seems like it has a bad reputation! :-)
Lots of good seats left in 209 for that final game. Let's fill it up
with folks on the list!
JR.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 09:08 PST 1994
From: Jeff Bandle
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 9:06:24 PST
> Robert Diebold writes:
>
> I listened to the Kings/Senators game last night and heard a snippet of the
> interview with a front-office type who stated that Barry's job was not in
> danger, he implied that all of this controversy would blow over after the
> Kings swept their next four games (Ottawa, Anaheim, Sharks x 2), and Monday
> morning found them just one point out of the final playoff position.
>
> During the game it was reported that the morning skate had been unusual,
> although the description of it sounded much like the description given during
> the game with the Sabres: not much skating, mostly sitting in the locker room
> talking. What was different about this time, was that Anthony Robbins was
> present; look at the result - a 7-0 pasting of the Senators!
>
> Do the Sharks need to worry? First they have to play a thoroughly humiliated
> team and then the "we believe in ourselves and each other again" Kings. Not
> if they are willing to play the body; I have never seen a Kings team that
> could take it, and this year they seem to have a "you can't hit me like that;
> I play for the Stanley Cup runnerup Kings" attitude. Just look at their
> penalty minutes and the types and amounts of suspensions they have received
> this year. If you hit them, they will fold!
>
>
>
I think its a stretch for LA to use the Senators game as a benchmark for
this point of the season. I watched the LA vs. Ottawa game last night and
was amazed at how bad a team Ottawa was. I think they are much worse than
the Sharks were last year at this point in the season...but of course I'm
biased. I saw a statistic that showed the top 24 scorers for Ottawa were a
combine -458 in the +/- rankings....that to me is just unbelievable! How
did we lose to this team???
I personally think the Sharks are in a good position. They have a decent
lead, they will be well rested from the off days they've gotten and they'll
be able to tuneup against Ottawa. From seeing how Constantine works, I
wouldn't be surprised to see the Sharks get 5 or 6 points out of the next 3
games. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
Cheers,
Jeff B.
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 09:41 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 09:39:32 -0800
From: email@hidden (Stormwind)
Subject: Catching players before the game
usually i try to catch players *after* the
game, but in the case of visiting teams,
this has proved to work only once. with
this in mind, i'm trying to figure out what
the best time would be for sunday's 2 pm
game to catch a visiting player before the
game. tips from the pre-grame pros?
stormwind
hell's amazon
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 11:38 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:35:40 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: Semi-magic numbers
I figured out what I guess could be called magic numbers for the
(what's it called...) Western Conference. One of the spooky things
I noticed is that the Sharks can still finish first or last in the
conference, if numerous things happen. (Well, actually, I didn't
check to see who goes head-to-head, so it could be different.)
Anyway, here's a sample: the Sharks' number vs. Winnipeg = 10.
The number is reduced by 2 for each Sharks win or Jets loss.
The number is reduced by 1 in the case of a tie by either team.
When the number = 0, the first team (the Sharks, in this case)
have clinched a better finish than the second team.
(I did this to avoid confusion about tie-breaks.)
It's a bit confusing, but it works. I have head-to-head numbers
for all the Western Conference matchups, and if anyone would like
the full chart, mail me and I'll send it to you. (It's a bit long
to send to the list.)
I'll post the Sharks' numbers occasionally to the list.
Tom (who has a bit too much free time)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 15:37 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 15:37:16 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Zamboni songs
> I sorry if this is off the topic, and I don't mean to start a big debate, but,
> is anyone as sick of the "zamboni song" and the "hockey game" song as I am.
> This song used to be enjoyful to listen to and even sing along once in awhile,
> but it is played at EVERY game. If I hear that song one more time I can not
> be held responsible for my actions. Am I alone out there?
I, for one, and not nearly as tired of those songs as I am of the
tuneless, ear-destroying, overamplified rock that assaults us before
the game and between periods. Is there some rule that says we aren't
supposed to have conversations at those times?
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 15:38 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 15:34:41 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
>From: email@hidden (Robert Diebold)
> I listened to the Kings/Senators game last night and heard a snippet of the
> interview with a front-office type who stated that Barry's job was not in
> danger,...
Yes, and the TV interview with Melrose in the first intermission
further poo-pooed the printed rumors about Melrose's demise. It
seems that Melrose, Beverly, and McNall are all mightily upset at
the New York Post for spreading that rumor. Of course, all this
could be what baseball fans know as the "vote of confidence."
> From: Chuq Von Rospach
> ... and not wait for the Kings to hand it to us. Beyond that, NEVER count a
> team with Gretzky out. If the Kings miss the playoffs this year, it will be
> the first time in his career his team has missed. He has NEVER not been in
> the playoffs.
Kings TV also brought that out. W. Gretzky himself seems very frustrated.
> My guess is that if it takes strapping on pads and playing goal to make the
> playoffs, Gretzky would do it. ...
When Gretzky got a good breakaway, streaked to the goal, and beautifully
deked the Ottawa goalie, there was much rejoicing. When the goal was
nullified because Granato (I think) had pulled down a Senator in center
ice, Gretzky looked like he was ready to kill someone. (Whether it was
Granato or the ref was not clear.) For the next couple of shifts, every
closeup of Gretzky show lips moving in a scowling face. I think I detected
some words that aren't welcome on TV.
Keep in mind that W.G. had gone the three previous games without a point,
which tied his career high for consecutive, point-free games. When he did
score in the third, there was again much rejoicing.
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>From: email@hidden (Robert Diebold)
> During the game it was reported that the morning skate had been unusual,
> ... What was different about this time, was that Anthony Robbins was
> present; look at the result - a 7-0 pasting of the Senators!
Okay, yes, they talked about the team meeting centering around Tony
Robbins, then they were interviewing Robbins when another Kings goal
interrupted them. But they never bothered to explain who the hell
Tony Robbins is, other than a friend of W.G., and why anyone should
care about his ideas. Has anyone here heard of him?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 16:22 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 16:22:07 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Tickets available.
Tomorrow night vs. Ottawa
Section 211 row 14, seats 14 and 15
Side the Sharks shoot on twice good view of entire ice...
$14 each or via extensive vector algebra $28 for both!
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: M.LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 16:43 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:38:19 EST
Subject: Hammerhead Booster Club
Just a reminder that this Saturday the HammerHead Booster Club is hosting the
LA Kings Booster Club at San Jose Live around 9:00 pm. (I'll try not to rub
it in that the Sharks are a better team!) Please e-mail me if you have any
questions.
Rene email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 17:32 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:27:06 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Sharks vs. Team USA?
What was the score of the Sharks vs. Team USA game on January 8?
thx
gak
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 20:39 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:36:28 -0800
From: John Onusko
Subject: I need a ticket!
Does anybody have one extra ticket for tomorrow's (Ottawa) game?
Thanks,
John
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 16 22:11 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 22:09:44 PST
>>From: email@hidden (Robert Diebold)
>> During the game it was reported that the morning skate had been unusual,
>> ... What was different about this time, was that Anthony Robbins was
>> present; look at the result - a 7-0 pasting of the Senators!
>Okay, yes, they talked about the team meeting centering around Tony
>Robbins, then they were interviewing Robbins when another Kings goal
>interrupted them. But they never bothered to explain who the hell
>Tony Robbins is, other than a friend of W.G., and why anyone should
>care about his ideas. Has anyone here heard of him?
Actually, he's a friend of Melroses's. Robbins is a motivational guru. He
has several books out and a self-help program that you can spend bucks on.
Melrose is one of Robbins' millions of devotees.
I don't know if there is anything to his "behavioral modification through the
elimination of negative thinking" stuff or not. But he seems to get good
results. The Army even used him to train sharpshooters. Robbins claims he
can teach anyone how to do anything quicker than anyone thought possible.
I don't really know much about him, but he seems marketed in the same way that
the weight-loss gurus are.
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 00:40 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Jon Hoyt)
Subject: Re: Zamboni songs
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 22:53:59 PST
In Regards to your letter :
>I sorry if this is off the topic, and I don't mean to start a big debate, but,
>is anyone as sick of the "zamboni song" and the "hockey game" song as I am.
>This song used to be enjoyful to listen to and even sing along once in awhile,
>but it is played at EVERY game. If I hear that song one more time I can not be
>held responsible for my actions. Am I alone out there?
I agree. I wish that they could play some different music each night-
and not just those two songs but all through the game. It seems like
most of the seats in the arena are sold as season tickets so they
should assume that many people are seeing Rthe showS over and over
again. A little variety would really add to the experience. How about
a guest DJ from a local radio station like many Baseball teams do?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 07:46 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 07:43 PST
From: email@hidden (It's Only Me)
Subject: still in dire need of a ticket for 3/20
I did one from Joe (THANK YOU JOE!!!) but I still need two more.
Or at the very least one more. Please, if anyone can help that didn't see
my original post... I hate to admit it but I'm getting desparate...
thank you for listening :-}
Laura
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Laura Shaffer Monahakaliki means hockey
PIXAR (they have no opinon)
Richmond, CA USA -Chad Gretzky
email: email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 08:24 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 08:20:29 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
>Actually, he's a friend of Melroses's. Robbins is a motivational guru. He
>has several books out and a self-help program that you can spend bucks on.
>Melrose is one of Robbins' millions of devotees.
And look how well it worked. Kings went out and lost to the Ducks 5-2, the
first Ducks win against the Kings this year. Gretzky was shut out (again).
A couple of things about that game that are important:
o First, from the reports I read and the boxscore, it was a very
undisciplined, chippy game by the Kings, something the Ducks seemed to have
encouraged but not really started.
o Second, the Kings were spending most of their time trying to set up
Gretzky instead of trying to win the stupid hockey game.
That implies a couple of strategies for the Sharks this weekend:
1) stand on Gretzky. If he's on the ice, the puck will be headed to him. The
better we shut him down, the harder they'll try to get it to him, which
plays right into our hands. (It boggles my mind that, fighting for their
playoff lives, the Kings are trying to get Gretzky his goals instead of
focussing on winning games against the teams they have to catch, but it was
clear from the game report that was exactly what they were doing. Horrible
strategy, worse discipline).
2) play chippy. toss a few elbows in the corner, do a little clutch and
grab. Don't start fights, but be physical and give them lots of
opportunities to retaliate. They will, and it'll take them right out of
their game to our advantage. Errey, Odgers and Zmolek will probably be
popular kids in these next two games.
These games MAY rival the Blackhawks series in intensity. May very easily do
so. It's pretty clear that if the Sharks stick to their gameplan, put a
shadow on Gretzky (let Cronin guard him every second or third shift.
Seriously. And maybe dress Craigwell, because Gretzky KNOWs by now that Dale
owns him in the faceoff circle. Anything to get him freaked ahead from the
start) and encourage the Kings to take stupid penalties, which they clearly
are, and we can sweep the two games with the Kings.
We have better goaltending, better defense, a better work ethic, better team
discipline and are focussed on the important goal, which is going to the
playoffs. The Kings are infighting, demoralized, undisciplined and are more
interested in Wayne's record than hockey in June. If we play our game and
keep them from playing theirs, we're in great shape.
Worst case: Gretzky gets one or two goals early, allowing them to relieve
themselves of the pressure they're feeling over his scoring drought and
focus on winning the games. Shut him down early, and the rest probably falls
in line.
But FIRST: we have to @#$#@$@ beat Ottawa. I don't just want two points
tonight, I want to see an aggressive, no-prisoners attitude and a convincing
win against the league's doormat. We have a little retribution to give for
the Ottawa thrashing, plus we need to set a statement going into the Kings
weekend that we're here to go to the playoffs. I want a four goal victory
tonight. We CAN'T look past these guys.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 09:20 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: 17 Mar 94 09:16:55 PST
Subject: Addr: re: Zamboni songs
Ed replies,
>I, for one, am not nearly as tired of those songs (zamboni & hockey) as I
>am of the tuneless, ear-destroying, overamplified rock that assaults us
>before the game and between periods. Is there some rule that says we aren't
>supposed to have conversation at those times?
I, personally, am not an avid fan of heavy metal but on the other hand I
can't imagine the Sharks taking the ice for pre-game skate without 'Enter
Sandman' echoing through the arena. The pre-game music provided by Aerosmith,
Metallica, Lenny Kravitz, etc. has been chosen for a reason. My guess is that
these are player favorites and if so I would imagine their purpose is
motivational. If anyone has insight into why these specific tracks were
chosen let me know?, I'd like to thank those responsible. The music does
a great job in getting me fired-up for the game, and sometimes, Ed, I have
even been known to break the conversation ban during the 20 minutes. I
guess that's what you call 'living on the edge'.
Rozzi"Nullum Gratuitum Prandium!"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 09:35 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:30:35 +0800
From: email@hidden (Jason Cockroft)
Subject: SHARKS TV PARTY
Hey folks,
We'll be cheering on the SHARKS as we crush the helpless Kings
Saturday afternoon. We'll have the BBQ and keg goin while we watch
the game on a 35" TV w/stereo hook-up. We ain't foolin' around.
Before the game we'll be playing street hockey around the corner
from my apartment. We'll have a few extra sticks - put bring you own
if you have one. I'll pick up a few dozen doggies but they tend to
go quick.
Street Hockey: 12:oo->1:3o (At the lumber yard between Red Oak and Wolfe.)
Sharks/Kings: 2:oo->6:oo BEAT LA!
See you Saturday!
Directions:
>From 101:
Take Lawrence Expressway south. Pass under central, over bridge.
Turn right on Reed.
Turn right on Evelyn (second light) ... bank left. go ~ 1/4 mi.
Turn right on Red Oak Dr. (Round Tree apartment sign) drive 100 ft.
Turn right on Red Oak Dr E. and park.
Apartment #P is in the structure between the 1st and 2nd
driveway on the RHS.
236 Red Oak Dr. E. Aot #P
Sunnyvale. 408-773-0727
*if you want the color postscipt version of the party flyer send me
some email!
-jake.
shaaaaAAARRRKKKKK ATTACK!
Epicenter 209/16/5
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 09:57 PST 1994
From: "Jean Pelland"
Date: 17 Mar 94 12:57:02 EST
Subject: atmosphere
I was just wondewring how the atmosphere his in San Jose
regarding the Sharks almost guarenteed making the playoffs.
____________________________________ \ /
\ Jean Pelland / \/
/ Sudbury, Ontario \ / \
\email@hidden / ---- O -----
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 11:18 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 11:14:35 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: The Race Is On
Here's the rest of the schedule for The Only Team That Matters, and for
those Losers Down South. My opinion: the Ducks are pretty much toast,
and the Kings' schedule is a good deal easier than the Sharks'.
have fun
gak
Sharks Kings Ducks
====== ===== =====
March 17 vs Ottawa
March 18
March 19 at Los Angeles vs SHARKS
March 20 vs Los Angeles at SHARKS
March 21
March 22 at Pittsburgh at Dallas
March 23 vs Vancouver
March 24 at Toronto at Boston
March 25 at Winnipeg at Edmonton
March 26 at Hartford
March 27 at St Louis at Vancouver at Philadelphia
March 28
March 29 vs Winnipeg
March 30 vs Anaheim at Los Angeles
March 31 vs Toronto vs Edmonton
April 1
April 2 vs Vancouver vs Edmonton vs Toronto
April 3 vs Edmonton (Sac)
April 4
April 5 at Los Angeles vs SHARKS
April 6 at Calgary
April 7 at Vancouver at St Louis
April 8 at Calgary at Edmonton
April 9 at Winnipeg at Vancouver
April 10 vs Vancouver at Chicago
April 11 vs Calgary
April 12
April 13 vs Edmonton vs Calgary vs Vancouver
April 14 vs Edmonton
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 17 11:19 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Patrick MacRoberts)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 11:17:18 -0800
"Hammerhead Booster Club" (Mar 16, 7:38pm)
Subject: Re: Hammerhead Booster Club
% Just a reminder that this Saturday the HammerHead Booster Club is
% hosting the LA Kings Booster Club at San Jose Live around 9:00 pm.
% (I'll try not to rub it in that the Sharks are a better team!)
% Please e-mail me if you have any questions.
The reason that they're hosting them at 9PM is because they will be
playing the PHA Captains and Staff in an exhibition game after the
Sharks game...
-Patrick "Just in case you want to stay and watch some rec-league hacks..."
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:29 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Ottawa owns us :-(
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 8:27:39 PST
"Gloom, despair, and agony on me,
deep dark depression; excessive misery
if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all
gloom, despair and agony on me."
Well, enough about last nights game...
What I want to know is when is KC going to stop the Makarov
muggings that have been going on? When is he going to send
Cronin out to send a message to leave Makarov alone? Sergei
almost took matters into his own hands after several shifts
last night, and at one point he even "check-swinged" with his
stick at a Senator. He is too small, old and VALUABLE to have
to fight I didn't see the Calgary game, but I do see a pattern
starting to form.
BTW, I would be asking this even if we had won last night - I'm
in no way blaming the loss on the Makarov muggings. I'm just
concerned.
Craig (who still refuses to boo)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:41 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 08:39:14 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Sharkies vs Ottawa
The silence this morning is deafening (blinding?). I think it
reflects how we all felt leaving the Cow Palace last night. That's
not a typo; I swear we were back up in Daly City. I saw two decent
shifts last night; the first shift of the game, and one penalty kill
where black sweaters were being hit. That's it. You do not win a
hockey game by playing 2 decent shifts all night. There was no
forechecking, no backchecking, no passing, no skating, no intensity.
Do the Sharks think they have the playoff spot wrapped up? Were
they looking forward to the weekend series? What is wrong with
Makarov? He was slow, listless, and error-prone all night. Other
than that one spinarama late in the game, he looked terrible. Whitney
and Norton both spent most of the night sending passes to black sweaters
and everybody was afraid to go near the boards. Come on guys: you won't
get hurt! HIT SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way; what's the story on the two non-goals? The first one was
at the other end of the ice so I don't know if someone was in the crease,
but the second one was right below us and I don't recall seeing anyone
in the crease. Why doesn't Kelly tell us why a goal is disallowed?
Boy am I disgusted!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:45 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 08:45:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Ottawa owns us :-(
Man, someone hit that game with an ugly stick.
Ottawa for some reason brings out the worst in us. I don't think it's
over-confidence, either. I think, frankly, that the Senators style of play
(grab anything that moves, hook anything that skates by and basically play
pylon with meathooks) can be really frustrating if the team is allowed to
get away with it. Last night, Dennis LaRue let them get away with a
game-long mugging, too.
I'm not a great fan of NHL reffing, as folks know. But I don't often
criticize the refs, either, because good or bad, they're USUALLY
equal-opportunity ugly. Last night Larue tilted the ice for the Senators
with some of the strangest, most inconsistent and biased reffing I've seen
in a while. LaRue does, by the way, have a rep in some circles as being
pro-quebecois, and if that isn't possible, pro-canadian, so I'm not the only
one over his career that believes his ice is sometimes tilted.
But having said that, I'm not blaming this loss on the ref. While Walkcom
cost us a point against the Sabres, NOBODY should have cost us two against
the these guys (who, as far as I can tell, play hockey only by accident. As
they say, comedy is not pretty). We should have been able to beat the
Senators AND LaRue AND Walkom. We didn't.
We were somewhat snakebit all night. The first goal coming back on replay
hurt. The second one (which IMHO was a REAL marginal call that few refs
would have made) basically put us in a funk we never recovered from. Add to
that some fairly soft ice that made skating rough (on both sides, but the
Senators handled it well) and pucks that had minds of their own (the Karma
Fairy was out in full force, and we didn't get a bounce all night, and the
bloody pucks were bouncing all over creation and NEVER laying flat) and a
Senator goalie who made enough good stops early to frustrate us and take us
out of our game, and we end up with a truly ugly loss.
Irbe's first goal was ugly, too. Like, we cheered every time the Senators
crossed the red line early (it's in our half of the stadium! yeah!), and he
sort of fell asleep. Routine save, he whiffed. Then he woke up. Oops. A risk
when you don't let your goalie get a shot every few minutes. (the second
goal I won't blame him for, it was a rough shot).
But bottom line, we beat ourselves.
Ugly, ugly. Ugh. Ptooie. (hey, chuq. Tell us what you really think!).
>When is he going to send
>Cronin out to send a message to leave Makarov alone?
Cronin sat A LOT last night. KC started with a real short bench, and cut it
even shorter as the night went on. Which didn't make a lot of sense to me,
given that the guys we WERE playing weren't exactly shining, and when
Whitney, Falloon and Sergei are doing most of the body checking, you KNOW
something's wrong. Nobody was hitting last night.
>Craig (who still refuses to boo)
Me, too. Rough crowd, but the Sharks have set high expectations, and I hope
it'll help them meet it. Me, I was simply wishing I'd brought a paper bag
to wear.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:45 PST 1994
From: Jeff Bandle
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 8:43:50 PST
Chuq writes:
> .....
much stuff deleted
> .....
>
> But FIRST: we have to @#$#@$@ beat Ottawa. I don't just want two points
> tonight, I want to see an aggressive, no-prisoners attitude and a convincing
> win against the league's doormat. We have a little retribution to give for
> the Ottawa thrashing, plus we need to set a statement going into the Kings
> weekend that we're here to go to the playoffs. I want a four goal victory
> tonight. We CAN'T look past these guys.
>
Ok Chuq...what does this tell us....I nearly destroyed my radio listening
to this game last night....If they play this way the rest of the season,
count the playoffs, goodbye....
TTFN,
Jeff B.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:48 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 08:48:03 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Sharkies vs Ottawa
>The silence this morning is deafening (blinding?). I think it
>reflects how we all felt leaving the Cow Palace last night.
No, actually, it's because the machine crashed last night and so mail
couldn't get through until I rebooted it this morning.
>I swear we were back up in Daly City. I saw two decent
>shifts last night; the first shift of the game, and one penalty kill
>where black sweaters were being hit. That's it. You do not win a
>hockey game by playing 2 decent shifts all night.
Not only that, the same could be said for the Senators, which reminded me
just how far we've come in a year. They ARE what the Sharks WERE. Why the
Sharks decided to play their game boggles me.
>By the way; what's the story on the two non-goals? The first one was
>at the other end of the ice so I don't know if someone was in the crease,
>but the second one was right below us and I don't recall seeing anyone
>in the crease. Why doesn't Kelly tell us why a goal is disallowed?
Kelly DID, actually. First was disallowed because on review, video showed
that it never completely crossed the goal line. The second goal was
disallowed because LaRue said a Shark player was in the crease before the
puck (real marginal call, IMHO). Paper this morning noted it was Elik.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:54 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 08:53:33 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Melrose & the Kings
>> But FIRST: we have to @#$#@$@ beat Ottawa.
>Ok Chuq...what does this tell us....I nearly destroyed my radio listening
>to this game last night....If they play this way the rest of the season,
>count the playoffs, goodbye....
Right off the top of my head, it tells us:
1) it ain't over. It ain't close to over.
2) The Sharks can get up for good teams, but still have trouble dealing with
the 'routine' wins. This is worrisome.
3) the Kings see the door opening. They gave us momentum losing to the
Ducks. We hand it back. This next two games is critical now, rather than
merely important.
4) The Sharks are an okay team, but not necessarily a good team yet. Nothing
experience and maturity and coaching won't fix, but we're proving we're
still a young team that's figuring out what it means to win.
5) When we run into a bad team, we tend to play down to them. Worse, we
don't have enough talent that when a team starts playing rugby, we can force
them into going back and playing hockey again.
6) some nights the wheels fall off.
Hey, anyone else see the dates that Ratje and Kroupa brought to the game? As
a confirmed redhead-type, I don't personally see the attraction in blondes
(maybe someone can explain?), especially blondes who's hair could be used to
light up runways if there's a power outage. But it IS nice to see how
quickly Kroupa is adjusting to American ways of life....
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 08:54 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 11:51:59 EST
Subject: Playoffs
Jean pelland writes --
>I was just wondewring how the atmosphere his in San Jose
>regarding the Sharks almost guarenteed making the playoffs.
The only guarantee right now is that they will play Saturday. Against a
team which BLEW OUT the Senators (7-0, with one called back)
The playoffs are far from a certainty, especially sporting a lovely 0-2
record against Ottawa.
The Sharks last night reminded me of the Cal Bears earlier in the day:
take the opponent lightly, try to do everything fancy and nothing
fundamentally, turnovers, bad defense.... they had better play better
against LA or they will be golfing earlier in April than you think.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:06 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:05:56 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: The photographic theory of game style
I usually take lots of photographs at a given game. After looking at typical
rolls shot at a game, I think I have a good correlation between rolls shot
and how the game was played. At really well played games, I can go through
4-5 rolls, no problem, because there's lots of good stuff going on, and I
can anticipate where the players will be.
Average games I'll shoot 3, with a good chunk of one roll going towards the
opposing goalie. Those of you who saw some of the photos I brought in last
night saw this--you just don't get those good photos of Hasek smiling with
his finger in his mouth unless you're taking a lot of shots.
Last night, I realized that I had taken less than two rolls with less than 5
minutes to play. Since I pay for the development whether there is anything
on the roll or not (vagaries of slide photography), I ended up taking a lot
of "waste" shots, with the hope that something might be interesting.
What was happening is that there wasn't any way of telling where anyone was
going to be, and no one was staying in any particular area of offense or
defense for any given time. No nice passes. No good shots. Just a lot of
wandering and scrumming with no particular reason.
This was a major disaster disorganized game. The Sharks couldn't play their
position hockey if their lives depended on it, and I think the Ottawa style
is skate and hope.
The Sharks seem to have a worse time dealing with teams that don't have a
clue than with teams who actually have a playing style. Bizarre.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:08 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 12:05:12 EST
Subject: Didn't happen
>But FIRST: we have to @#$#@$@ beat Ottawa. I don't just want >two points
>tonight, I want to see an aggressive, no-prisoners attitude and a
>convincing
>win against the league's doormat. We have a little retribution to give >for
>the Ottawa thrashing, plus we need to set a statement going into >the Kings
>weekend that we're here to go to the playoffs. I want a four goal >victory
>tonight. We CAN'T look past these guys.
Where has the intensity gone? why haven't Odgers and Cronin been getting
into things? Why is EVERY power play an attempt to setup Ozolinsh? Where
was Falloon most of the game? Will Errey ever cleanly receive a pass? Will
Whitney EVER finish?
these are a few questions that bear answering. This team is sleepwalking,
and they frankly aren't good enough to take ANYONE lightly.
I still feel we need to address our success differently. in relative terms
to last year, obviously very good. In relative terms to the rest of the
league, still not very good.
Only four teams with fewer wins. Only four teams with fewer goals scored.
second to last in power play defense. No player with over 60 points. A
decided lack of size. A dead tired goaltender.
LA may be playing for the wrong reasons (debateable)...Gretzky's record...BUT
remember that rivalries lead to intense games (see: Dodgers/Giants 1993 or
almost any other year), and the Sharks had better get up higher for these two
than they were last night. And the coach had better remind these guys that
looking ahead isn't an option.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:25 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:22:01 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: What was THAT all about?
Well, I guess it beat _not_ being at a hockey game...
bah
gak
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:31 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 09:31:03 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: Listless Sharks
Once again I confirmed my belief that Sharks play up the level of
their competition and that they need a real checking line. I was
watching the game on SC and the first four minutes of the first period
was the kind of hockey we needed to stay in the race. I was so hyper
and excited that my roommate asked me if I had any beer before the
game. I didn't - it was just great hockey and then...
Sharks stopped skating, they reached for the puck while their legs
were not moving, they missed passes, their transition game
disappeared, and frustration set in. Then, coach started playing
shuffle and stuck Larianov on another line and, correct me if I am
wrong, moved other players to different assignments. Larianov is my
hero, I watched the KLM line play when I was a kid in Russia, but last
night if I was the coach - I would sit him down and let him have it.
I finally figured it out. Irbe needs a leash so he can't leave the
net. HE'S GONNA GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK ONE OF THESE DAYS!!!
Odgers was sitting most of the game and then was let out on the ice
late in the game to start something, to get the Sharks going. PLEASE!
My grandma will check you harder if go in the kitchen when you not
supposed to.
I could go on raving for another hour but let's face it - Sharks
played a hideous game. They played like there was no real reason for
them to be there, like there was no playoffs. They played like
amateurs. Did you notice - Ottawa players were as happy as a bunch of
monkeys in the back of a bannana truck.
I feel a little better now. I'll now meditate and try to think
positive thoughts in preparation for the Saturday's game. And if
Sharks continue to play the way they did last night - I'll brake my
TV, again! OK, I'm done.
************************************************************************
* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
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* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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* GOOO SHAAAAARKS!!! CHOMP-CHOMP *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:42 PST 1994
Date: 18 Mar 94 09:35:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: What was the score??
I know I went to the game last night because I have the ticket stub
in my pocket, but can someone tell me the score? I must have had too much
to drinl for St. Paddy's Day (personally, I don't think Falloon really
deserves to be made a saint this early in his career, but who am I to
argue with hundreds of bar owners?). I woke up in the middle of the night
with this terrible nightmare that the Sharks had lost to Ottawa- again-
by a miserable 2-1 score. Now I know that this had to be a bad dream, because
I also dreamt that I saw Pat Falloon knock a guy on his butt, so we KNOW this
is a hallucination. And some guy was impersonating Makarov all night, too;
he was wearing 24, and when his helmet got pulled off he sure looked like
Sergei, but the way he played it had to be someone else (maybe it was Tonya
Harding). It is inconceivable that Makarov could have given the puck away
as many times as he did in my dream, and yet somehow he was still the third
star of the game.
Sorry to bother all of you with my alcoholic nightmares, but I'm
really worried. Somebody, please tell me the real score!
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 09:52 PST 1994
Subject: FOR SALE: 3/20 (vs Kings) tickets
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:51:16 -0800
From: Patrick MacRoberts
I have a LOT of tickets for the Kings/Sharks game on the 20th for
sale. $14 and $18 tickets (Sections 221,223, and 226).
The Pacific Hockey Association is pitting a "Captains/All Star" team
against the Kings Booster Club team. We're going to be playing
shortly after Falloon, Gretzky & Company clear off the ice.
If you know anyone who needs tickets, have them get a hold of me. And
if you want to get a good laugh, hang around after the game and watch
the guys who didn't QUITE have the talent to get paid to play...
-Patrick "Yes, I will be playing -- PHA #7"
408-447-7482 (W)
408-448-0568 (H)
--
Patrick MacRoberts
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:11 PST 1994
Mr-Received: by mta MENDEL; Relayed; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:09:01 -0800
Alternate-Recipient: prohibited
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:57:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Steckel 415-225-5179
Subject: Re: Sharkies vs. Ottawa
Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:08:00 -0800 (PST)
Priority: normal
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Hop-Count: 0
The two non-goals:
1. From the overhead camera, it was obvious: Billington got a piece of
the puck as it went by, deflecting it squarely into the post. The puck
came almost straight back out, and Billington covered. The goal light
came on but it was not a goal.
2. LaRue ruled that Elik was in the crease. Again from the overhead
camera, at the start of the play both Elik's feet were just inside
the crease. As the pass went from the point to Pederson, Todd backed up
and was right on the line went the puck went into the net. From the
tenor of the game from the outset, LaRue made it clear he was going to
call the game VERY tight. He did not hesitate at all to call the goal
off, much to the chagrin of Pederson who threw his stick and gloves to
the ice in anger.
The talk in this discussion for the past two days has centered on the
Kings this weekend; guess we should have considered the Senators first
eh?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:28 PST 1994
Date: 18 Mar 1994 10:27:06 -0800
From: "Brian Miyakusu"
Subject: Re: Sharkies vs. Ottawa
RE>>Sharkies vs. Ottawa
> From: Michael Steckel
> The talk in this discussion for the past two days has centered on the
> Kings this weekend; guess we should have considered the Senators first
> eh?
Yup, we WOOFED it big time.
Flat skating passing and checking always looks bad.
Soft ice is soft for both teams.
Play one game at a time.
Didn't the Senators beat us before?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:29 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:29:11 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Playoffs
>The only guarantee right now is that they will play Saturday. Against a
>team which BLEW OUT the Senators (7-0, with one called back)
A team that then lost to the Ducks, which was a team we beat every game this
season.
Playing the we-beat-he-beat games are silly, because they really say very
little, given the complexities of how different teams match up.
>The playoffs are far from a certainty, especially sporting a lovely 0-2
>record against Ottawa.
On the other hand, we odn't play Ottawa again, and we KNOW they'll be the
first team on the golf course this spring. We DO, however, play the Kings,
and we can, and have, beat them. That's what matters now. Four points tossed
into the street isn't something to sneeze at, but it isn't osmething to
start burning down buildings over, either.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:30 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:27:42 +0800
From: email@hidden (Rich Piziali - Sun SVN SE)
Subject: Re: Ottawa owns us :-(
>
> Craig (who still refuses to boo)
>
I'm assuming your referring to the Sharks and not the Ref. LaRue(?) was awful
last night! My voice is still hoarse this morning from booing at that guy.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:37 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:35:29 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: early flight
Some questions/observations
It's really too bad that the sharks had a 8:00 pm flight down to LA last
night. If they had played more than the first 7 minutes of the first period
they might have won.
What was wrong with Pedersons goal?
We really don't deal well with aggressive forechecking.
Daigle really needs a spanking.
Why is Mike Lalor playing so much (or at all)?
Would SOMEONE please finish their checks (besides Pederson)
I'll give sharkie fresh mackrel to ref.
beat LA
erik
==============================================================
Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 18 10:47 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 10:21:44 pst
From: "MORSE, JASON"