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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:21 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:18:53 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
How bout that speech by Constantine last night? When he said that
the success this season, this valiant drive to the playoffs, was for
those of us who have been there from the start, suffering through
"being maybe the worst team in the league" last year (with "maybe"
thrown in for the benfit of George Kingston), I felt a bit of a lump
in my throat. Especially since I kept being reminded of our hideous
18-or-so game losing streak last night because of Winnipeg's.
I'm all warmed up to chant "Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!". Too
bad I won't be there.
The only downside of the speech was that he seemed a little
nervous about making it into the playoffs. Confidence was definitely
not being exuded. It would be pretty hard for everyone involved
if the playoffs slip away. But we must not think about such things.
(at least not in public.)
On a completely diferent note, did anyone order the Roger Nielson
hockey instructional video last season? My friend sent for it and it
never arrived. I was just wondering if anyone else had the same problem.
(Or, if anyone got it, if it was worth getting.)
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:36 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 12:34:11 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
> The only downside of the speech was that he seemed a little
>nervous about making it into the playoffs. Confidence was definitely
>not being exuded. It would be pretty hard for everyone involved
>if the playoffs slip away.
Given our play recently, would you be confident? With the Kings behind us?
and if the Ducks do land Kariya, they could be a better team.
There are good reasons to worry. There are good reasons to believe we're
pulling out of the latest slump, adn fortunately, the team I'm worried about
(the Kings) is slumping worse. If we can stay ahead of them, I think we can
do it.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 12:41 PST 1994
Date: 1 Mar 1994 12:37:14 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comme
Reply to: RE>Last Night's Game--Comments
Jon Cohen sez:
>Hope [Larionov's] "flu," is not a euphemism for vodka, as it sometimes is
>in sports circle.
I don't think so, but in the Coach's Chalkboard pregame radio show, Dan
Rusanowsky asked Constantine about Larionov. In what may have been a Freudian
slip, Constantine said something to the effect that the team needs for Larionov
"to recover from his injury -- err, flu -- quickly". So, perhaps Larionov is
actually suffering from an injury and the team is calling it the flu to prevent
other teams from intentionally aggravating his injury when he returns
(particularly given the upcoming Ducks game and the home-and-home series
against the Kings later this month...).
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 13:27 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Keith Wandry)
Subject: Thursday Night
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:26:09 -13165615 (PST)
Is everybody going to do the `playoff' chant that Constantine
said would help motivate his team on Thursday night before the
puck is dropped?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 13:52 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:49:16 -0800
From: Richard Stueven
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>From: Jon Cohen
>
>Last night's game vs Winnipeg was both frustrating and
>encouraging.
That's great, but...WHAT WAS THE SCORE?!? I caught the end of the
first and most of the second periods, but that's it.
have fun
gak (nelson lu, where are you?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:03 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 16:59:13 EST
Subject: tix avail 3/3
2 tickets available, Thursday the 3rd against Edmonton.
Section 209, $14 each.
Call at 408-258-8232, or e-mail email@hidden.
Thanks,
Darren
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:22 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:19:52 +0800
From: email@hidden (John Reed)
Subject: sharks vs. ducks tickets for sale
I am selling two club seats for the sunday 3/6 game against the mighty ducks.
Section 112, row 11, seats 1&2. $55 each plus the parking pass = $120.
It's in the corner near the goal that the sharks attack 1st and 3rd periods.
Right near Sun CEO Scooter McNealy and his crazy gang of executives. :-)
Email at email@hidden or call 408-379-7000x1417 and leave voice mail.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:28 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 14:26:17 PST
>
> We need these points on Thursday. I'm psyched to build on
> last night's strong third period and get some
> new momentum rolling on Thursday night that will carry
> us into the playoffs.
>
And don't forget, Constantine said the Sharks can make the playoffs "together"
with the fans - he wants us to back the team and start a "playoffs, playoffs"
chant before the first face off. (did anyone else see that interview?)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 14:34 PST 1994
Date: 1 Mar 1994 14:28:03 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comm
Reply to: RE>>Last Night's Game--Comme
gak asks:
>WHAT WAS THE SCORE?!?
It was a 3-3 tie.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:27 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:25:56 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: playoff drive
I was looking at the schedule for the rest of the season and I realised it
doesn't look that tough (knock on wood). Of our opponents in the the 20
remaining games only 11 of them have more points than we currently have.11
of them are home games. Now granted we're not exactly on a tear right now
but we have 5 games against teams who are ice cold (winnipeg and LA).
Anyway here's how it looks
games with teams who are ahead of us
pitts 1 march 22
tor 2 march 24 and 31
cal 2 march 12 and april 8
vancouver 3 april 2,7 and 10
St Louis 1 (thank god) march 27
buffalo 1 march 8
NYI(barely) 1 march 10
games with teams who are behind us
anaheim 1(darn) march 6
edmonton 2 march 3 and april 13
LA 3 march 19,20 and april 5
winnipeg 2 march 25 and 29
ottawa 1 march 17
erik
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Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:47 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:48:57 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Thursday Night
>Is everybody going to do the `playoff' chant that Constantine
>said would help motivate his team on Thursday night before the
>puck is dropped?
How about substituting "playoffs" for "Pizza" from now on :-)
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 15:57 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 15:57:07 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
> ... Ottawa and Winnipeg, and in both cases, the ice
> was terrible. The Jets ice was kicking up amazing amounts of snow, which
> means it was soft, and it looked rutted as all get out. That really seems to
> be a factor in taking the Sharks off their game. The Ottawa ice was so bad
> it was dangerous. Fortunately, WE didn't get hurt..
How spoiled one can get! Not that many years ago, the NHL played on
frozen ponds, outdoors. Even today, in those places that have frozen
ponds, they get used for hockey and other skating.
Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
> >I would say that Ozolinsh, Norton, Kroupa, and the
> >surprisingly effective Pedersen are the top four,...
Surprisingly? Pederson has been the most consistently effective d-guy
out there. He's always blocking breakways, blocking shots, checking,
and generally doing what's needed.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 16:00 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 16:01:02 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
> Given our play recently, would you be confident? With the Kings behind us?
> and if the Ducks do land Kariya, they could be a better team.
Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
probably a bright decision for him.
> There are good reasons to worry. ...
All too true. The Sharks have the talent to stay in the playoff hunt,
but not necessarily the consistency in applying it.
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| "My Macintosh doesn't go out in the rain." |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 17:07 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Dave Hoffman / Product Engineer)
Subject: "Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs ..."
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Much to my surprise I haven't seen any mention of this yet on the list.
Between periods of the Winnipeg game on Ch 36 they said Constantine
had asked for an opportunity to speak directly to the fans. They then
showed about a 1 minute speech by KC. He rambled a bit but the gist
of it was: a) Thanks, the fan support has been great. b) This has
been a tough road trip & we're feeling tired and bruised. It will be
good to have the upcoming home stand. c) Even more fan support will
help the team get 'up' and secure a playoff spot.
He ended with the suggestion that 'maybe a chant of "playoffs, playoffs,
playoffs ..." before the face off at the next home game would help'.
Okay section 209, I think this is the hockey equivalent of a command
performance!
Dave
209/17/5-9
PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 17:33 PST 1994
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:12:40 +0800
From: email@hidden (Richard Schiavi)
Subject: WANTED: 3 tickets for Thurs night?
Looking for 3/4 tickets to Thursday nights Edmonton game.
Thanks,
Rich
(415) 336-1647 (Work)
(415) 647-4136
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From Shark-Bytes-request Tue Mar 1 21:59 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 21:59:29 PST
Jon Cohen sez:
>>Hope [Larionov's] "flu," is not a euphemism for vodka, as it sometimes is
>>in sports circle.
>I don't think so, but in the Coach's Chalkboard pregame radio show, Dan
>Rusanowsky asked Constantine about Larionov. In what may have been a Freudian
>slip, Constantine said something to the effect that the team needs for Lariono
v
>"to recover from his injury -- err, flu -- quickly". So, perhaps Larionov is
>actually suffering from an injury and the team is calling it the flu to preven
t
>other teams from intentionally aggravating his injury when he returns
>(particularly given the upcoming Ducks game and the home-and-home series
>against the Kings later this month...).
He also said that half the team was sick and they were anxious to return to
San Jose and some warmer weather.
Also, no Russian player worth anything would let a little vodka keep him
from playing. ;-)
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:00 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Tickets wanted
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 7:59:15 PST
Hi All,
I have a friend who is looking for two tickets for tomorrow nights game. If
you have any for sale, let me know.
Thanks.
Craig
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:00 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 07:57:36 -0800
From: email@hidden (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
Ken Zarifes writes:
>
>He also said that half the team was sick and they were anxious to return to
>San Jose and some warmer weather.
With as many times as Larionov has had the flu, you would think they would
get the guy a flu shot by now! Maybe they should spike the vodka with some
vitamin C!
Bill
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Email: email@hidden San Jose Sharks #2
"The Spectacular" San Jose Arena 104-24-3/4 Michigan Football #3
Rob Zettler Fan Club, San Jose Chapter Philadelphia Flyers #4?
******************** Sign Man of section 104 row 24 ********************
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:05 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 08:03:33 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: sharks vs. ducks tickets for sale
It was written:
"I am selling two club seats for the sunday 3/6 game against the mighty ducks.
Section 112, row 11, seats 1&2. $55 each plus the parking pass = $120.
It's in the corner near the goal that the sharks attack 1st and 3rd periods.
Right near Sun CEO Scooter McNealy and his crazy gang of executives. :-)
Email at email@hidden or call 408-379-7000x1417 and leave voice mail."
As an added bonus at this game, see my son and his Squirt B team from
Santa Clara play a quick 4 minute game against a team from Santa Rosa.
We played them last week and beat them 7-1, so they're looking for
revenge!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:20 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:20:05 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
goes down a bit more.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 08:24 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:24:22 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!
>Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
>probably a bright decision for him.
But the Ducks haven't finished trying to entice him, yet, and Maine is in
the middle of some fairly nasty battles with the NCAA. Things still might
change.
>All too true. The Sharks have the talent to stay in the playoff hunt,
>but not necessarily the consistency in applying it.
Yup. A cost of a young, relatively inexperienced team, combined with a
relative lack of depth. One player out, or one player having a bad game can
noodge us over the line separating the decent with the ugly. As the team
grows, matures and improves in talent (which it will), that'll be less
noticable.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:11 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 09:12 PST
Subject: Need 2 Tix sunday 3/6
If anybody has two tickets for sunday against the Ducks for sale I'd be
more than happy to take them!!!!
Must be affordable.......no club seats please!
Joe Barretta
3Com Corp.
764-7152
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eugene pucine:hq:3Com, joe barretta:hq:3Com,
Jonathan Jones:hq:3Com, Peggy Dowling:hq:3Com,
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:20:05 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
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>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
goes down a bit more.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:16 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:17:58 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>>Like Hahn and Stemmy said, the ice was that way for both teams.
>
>That's true, but irrelevant. Some players skate better on bad ice, and some
>teams play better on it, just the way some horses run better on a fast track
>and others are mudders. That's reality, and the Sharks don't spend enough
>time on bad ice to get used to it. The Senators, who have to live on that
>wastepile they call home ice, have more experience in dealing with it.
>
>If Hahn and Stemmy were REALLY saying taht, then my regard for their opinion
>goes down a bit more.
This is professional hockey. You learn to deal with things such as bad ice
long ago. If anything, bad ice is an equalizer becuase neither team can
skate very well on it and it brings people down to the same level. IMHO
good ice will help a skating team (like Winnipeg BTW), but bad ice will
hurt both, not necessarily proportionally though.
All in all, the ice condition is one of the many variables to adjust to,
and at this level it does not cut it for an excuse. Imagine this... Any
Ranger to Keenan: "But coach, the ice was a bit slow out there tonight...",
HAHAHAHA :-) Besides, the ice was the same for both teams :-)
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:23 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:21:13 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
If you play on slow, chipped or otherwise crufty ice all the time, you're
a lot more likely to be used to it, and able to take advantage of it
than a team which sees said ice three times a year.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 09:31 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:31:22 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Last Night's Game--Comments
>If you play on slow, chipped or otherwise crufty ice all the time, you're
>a lot more likely to be used to it, and able to take advantage of it
>than a team which sees said ice three times a year.
>
>Laurie
Regardless, using the ice conditions to excuse a loss to Ottawa is
ridiculous. I suppose if the Sharks go play a Midget team on the pond the
Midgets play pickup on that can't be expected to win there either?
Seriously Ottawa has lost something like 17 of 18, and guess who the one
win was against. The Sharks are in playoff contention, and at this point
should show that they are serious and turn on the afterburners. Losing to
Ottawa, be the ice hard, soft, good or bad is not a good sign for a team
like the Sharks.
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:24 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:24:27 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: multidimensional models
(I was once approached to join a PhD group of mathematical psychologists--
that ought to scare you.)
There is no one factor that anyone can point to as a reason for a win or
a loss for a given team on any given night. I'm ignoring the "Godzilla
factor", which means sometimes one thing does happen that determines
a win, but that happens about as often as Godzilla trashing the local
campus.
If you were going to build a function that would predict a win or a loss, or
even predict how a team is going to do --otherwise, describing their
behaviour in a mathematical construct, you might end up with something like
this:
f (team behaviour)= a ((f) sleep)+/- b ((f) training) +/- c((f)
conditions)...
And so on, where each one of the functions may be made up of another set of
mathematical functions, which would not only be non-linear, but would be
multi-dimensional. The most complex "simple" multi-dimensional function I
ever worked with was in 7 dimensions. That's why they invented Cray
computers and FORTRAN way back when (sorry guys--when I was doing this,
object oriented languages were a collective gleam in Switzerland).
The weighting factors (a,b,c,) may also be non-linear or multi-dimensional
constructs. Usually they're simply non-linear.
Which means that if you want to predict or model a behaviour in a fashion
where you can say "this is the only reason" or "this is not the reason", you
get to solve a nice big problem. You want to make guesses, you can make
guesses.
So, let's look at the "bad ice" games. To either completely count or
discount the effect of the ice is one datapoint. Great--now what else is
caused by that ice being that way? Let's ee, puck movement, general speed,
passing ability, and the goalie being able to predict where the puck is
coming from.
Okay, that`s a start. Now, let's look at all the other factors (fatigue,
illness, morale, training level, sharpness of skates, how the sticks were
taped, relative humidity and temp in the building, referees and
linesmen--and now the relative effect on the Sharks by the same weighted
factors on the other team), weight them and plug them into the equation.
So, we come up with a hypothesis that says--"we think the ice was a
factor in the team's performance, and we can assign a guessed weighted factor
to this". But we also realize that there are a multitude of other factors
involved in determining how and why the team did what it did tonight.
Summary? "Is so!" "Is not!" arguements are linear--and that rarely happens
in real life.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:27 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 13:25:28 EST
Subject: Kariya
>>Sunday, CBS said Kariya had decided to go back to U. of Maine, which is
>>probably a bright decision for him.
>But the Ducks haven't finished trying to entice him, yet, and Maine >is in
>the middle of some fairly nasty battles with the NCAA. Things still >might
>change.
Kariya had originally hoped to return to Maine and go for another NCAA title,
but that may have changed because Michigan looks awfully tough, and although
the Ferraro brothers are returning, Chris Imes and Matt Martin are going to
the minors and more importantly, Mike Dunham has reported to the New Jersey
Devils and Garth Snow is returning to the Nordiques (no goalies, no title).
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 10:57 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 13:54:39 EST
Subject: Observations
I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
I thought we have (had?) a whole slew of those and we really need to score
some goals... we were the last team with a 20-goal scorer, and he got it in
our last game. And speaking of that...where HAS the offense (what little of
it we do have) gone?
Odgers, Baker, More, Pederson, Duchesne score?
Larionov, Falloon, Elik, Garpenlov, Gaudreau don't?
why do we seem to be offensively so streaky? why do we seem to always have a
player or two with 7, 8, 10 games scoring streaks followed by 15 game
scoreless ones, but rarely, with the possible exception of Makarov, do we
have anybody score in 3 out of 5 or 4 out of 6? It can't all be youth, as
Igor, Elik, Sergei, Johan, Jamie have been around a while...
And seeing that trend, I don't get as upset as others that Ozolinsh, Norton,
Kroupa and Pederson get "offensive", after all scoring is the point. I am
sure it bothers them and Irbe that they play solid and lose or tie because
the guys paid to score don't.
The bottom line is the main guys need to either turn it up a notch
offensively, or get some guys here who CAN.
The Detroit game is an example, here you play a team that is 1 element from a
Cup according to most observers (A Goaltender) and is known as a wide-open
offensive power with very little defense and yet you only put 22 shots on
goal against a very young slightly shaky goalie and get shut-out 2-0.
If most teams could hold the Red Wings to 2 goals, they would win, because
Detroit gives up the most shots in the league and have one of the highest
team GAA's out there. But we simply can't (don't?) shoot enough, and
therefore can't (don't?) score enough.
Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO. And when the
coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it? I guarantee
that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players. Maybe KC is a bit
overmatched right now (after all he is young, too) In fact, Wayne Thomas
apparently is running most game strategy now, according to reports.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 12:12 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:10:41 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Observations
>I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
>featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
>list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
>inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never said
anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY defenseman. They have,
in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason why the
Zettler trade happened.
And besides, if Shawn Cronin isn't a physical defenseman, who is? If Doug
Zmolek isn't a physical defenseman, who is?
Whoever wrote that did poor, or no, research on the team. Our needs are a
backup goalie (which we won't trade for, given what we have on the farm),
and scoring forwards, especially at left wing.
>why do we seem to be offensively so streaky?
It may simply be because we don't HAVE the one player who scores day in and
day out, and so the other streaks become more noticable. Another factor:
when a player gets hot, the scouts notice and the teams that we play then
focus on stopping him. In previous years, when our scoring line got stopped,
we stopped. Now, when one line gets hit by the top defense, another line
pops up and takes over. That's an advantage of having more than one solid
scoring line, because it makes us that much harder to defend.
>And seeing that trend, I don't get as upset as others that Ozolinsh, Norton,
>Kroupa and Pederson get "offensive", after all scoring is the point. I am
>sure it bothers them and Irbe that they play solid and lose or tie because
>the guys paid to score don't.
I don't get upset AT ALL, as long as the players (and the rest of the team)
understands and knows to be ready to plug up transition breakaways.
>Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
>Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO.
We're a playoff team if we have more points than the non-playoff teams at
the end of the season. Period. But your point is well-taken. We have to beat
the weaker teams if we want a good shot at making the playoffs. I think,
however, that we've done pretty well at doing that. Losses are
disapppointing, true -- but they're a fact of life.
>And when the
>coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
>there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it?
I don't see it that way. I think it's more that he knows his team plays
better with the crowd behind it, and that they need a boost right now. We're
20 games out, chronic fatigue from a long season is starting to be a factor,
we had a bad road trip, and he'd like to see the fans welcome the team back
and give them some encouragement. If he thinks it'll help, then we should
help.
>I guarantee
>that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
>needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players.
They're not teams loaded with 19, 20 and 21 year olds who've never been in a
playoff race before. They're all teams with older, more mature talent and a
long team tradition of winning who know what it takes. we're building all
that from scratch. In Montreal, when you walk into the home dressing room,
all of the ghosts stare down at you and demand nothing but your best. In San
Jose, we haven't been here long enough to have ghosts.
>Maybe KC is a bit
>overmatched right now (after all he is young, too) In fact, Wayne Thomas
>apparently is running most game strategy now, according to reports.
Possibly a bit. But having a bench coach run strategy isn't at all unusual,
so I don't see that as a criticism. Bobby Murdoch did it last year.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 13:34 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:36:34 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Observations
>Also, chant all you want about playoffs, but unless you BEAT the Ottawas and
>Winnipegs of this league, you are not a playoff team IMHO. And when the
Well thank god your HO does not run the NHL. It might be something like
the College Football Bowl games decisions on who makes it into the
playoffs. However, I do believe that if the Sharks don't pick it up again
and start to beat the bad teams when they have to, (The Ottawa loss was
horrible and the Winnipeg loss could have been deadly if the Jets had Teemu
for their playoff run...) they are not going to be a playoff team.
>coach is resorting to pleading with the fans to push the team... well, why is
>there a motivation problem?, and why is he unable to correct it? I guarantee
>that in Detroit, or Montreal or New York the coach doesn't feel as though he
>needs to exhort the crowd in order to fire up the players. Maybe KC is a bit
Well NY, Detroit, MTL, etal have years of tradition behind them, they all
know the game of hockey including strategy. Here in the Bay Area the fan
base is relatively new and from what I have seen, any person who has
actually taken the ice and gone through a beginner clinic thinks they know
all about hockey strategy and can point out what the Sharks are doing
wrong. I think it is great that KC called for the playoff chant. Someone
needed to! I have been wishing for months that people would change the
Pizza chant to playoffs. Maybe now my wish will come true...
The crowd is aHUGE part of the home ice advantage even more than the crappy
ice conditions IMHO. It would be nice to see the crowd get behind the team
cheer for them at times other than after a goal.
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:04 PST 1994
From: "Craig S. Cirimele"
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 15:03:54 PST
>
>
> >I don't know how many of you read the Hockey News, but the latest issue,
> >featuring Trade possibilities before the deadline is interesting, as they
> >list the Sharks as a team who have decided not to make any moves due to their
> >inability to secure a "Physical Defenseman".
>
> That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never said
> anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY defenseman. They have,
> in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason why the
> Zettler trade happened.
>
Not only that, but the newest issue that arrived yesterday, says that the
Sharks may have the best four young defensemen in the league - Ozolinsh,
Rathje, Sykora and Kroupa.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:07 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 18:04:49 EST
Subject: My HO
>Well thank god your HO does not run the NHL. It might be >something like
>the College Football Bowl games decisions on who makes it into >the
>playoffs.
My HO could probably run it better than John Ziegler did, though.
>However, I do believe that if the Sharks don't pick it up again
>and start to beat the bad teams when they have to... they are not >going to
be a playoff team.
That was my point...merely MAKING the playoffs will be tough if we continue
to drop these kinds of games, we simply don't have enough margin to play
with.
>Well NY, Detroit, MTL, etal have years of tradition behind them, >they all
>know the game of hockey including strategy. Here in the Bay Area >the fan
>base is relatively new and from what I have seen, any person who >has
>actually taken the ice and gone through a beginner clinic thinks >they know
>all about hockey strategy and can point out what the Sharks are >doing
>wrong. I think it is great that KC called for the playoff chant.
I resemble, er resent...yeah resent, the beginner hockey remark
However, my point is that the fans should (and probably would) respond on
their own, without prodding from the coach. It just seems like a desperation
move by Constantine, and while it is bad right now, it isn't as though the
fans have abandoned the team. Don't let 'em know you sweat, KC.
Geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:12 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 18:09:48 EST
Subject: Re:Re: Observations
>That article came across as total babble. The Sharks have never >said
>anything about getting a physical defensemen, or ANY >defenseman. They have,
>in fact, been trying to shed extra defensemen, which is one reason >why the
Zettler trade happened.
I agree. I didn't even mention the part where they kind of off-handedly
stated that the Sharks were rebuffing all offers for Irbe and Ozolinsh. I
can hear Bryan Murray now:
Ok Dean, here's the deal... I give you Mike Sillinger and 2 of Ray Sheppard's
broken sticks for Irbe. And by the way, since we're #1 and you're #8, we'll
see you in the playoffs. Thanks for calling.
geoff
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 15:39 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 15:36:08 PST
From: Kyle Wohlmut
Subject: Cheap seat available
Single ticket available for tomorrow night's game against Edmonton: 225/15/7.
Going for face value, $14. Only drawback is that you will have to sit next
to me and my two crazy friends. E-mail reply, please...
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\ Stanford - Kind. Ach, wie gut dass niemand weiss,
- Executive' / dass ich email@hidden heiss.'
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 17:38 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 20:33:48 EST
Subject: KC Blades
For those that are interested:
KC beat the Red Army Penguins 2-1 last friday in a shootout. $14,000 people
showed up for the game. KC beat Cleveland 6-3 on Tuesday (at Cleveland).
They are 6-1-1 in their last 8 games. They play Atlanta tonight (Mar 2) at
home.
If anyone needs KC Blades merchandise, I have tons of KC BLades brochures.
Let me know and I can mail you one. email@hidden
Rene - Blueline Fan - #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Wed Mar 2 18:17 PST 1994
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:16:30 -0800
From: email@hidden (Peter Jacobs)
Subject: Cheap Seat Available
Single ticket available for tommorow night's games vs. Oilers
210 16/13
Price $14
email@hidden
415-512-2404
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 13:13 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 16:11:01 EST
Subject: KC Blades
Wow, what a response! I'll try to mail all the brochures out by Monday (I
called today to have them send me more). For those ordering call the
following number: 816-842-5233 and ask for merchandise dept. or Tom Ell
(manager). By the way the shot glass comes in very handy.
The Blades lost last night to Atlanta 3-2 in a shootout. They're still
fighting to catch up for that last playoff spot.They have three games this
weekend : one away (Milwaukee) and two at home (Milwaukee and Las Vegas).
I'll see if I can get scores for Monday.
Also to those who asked the "Thank you Mr. Sather" sign will be up tonight.
By the way, considering the Blades were rated one of the worst logos I'm
impressed so many of you want merchandise!
Rene - Blueline Fan - #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 16:06 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:02:17 PST
From: kahului!email@hidden (Douglas J Whisler)
Subject: Re: multidimensional models
> From: Laurie Sefton
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: multidimensional models
...lecture deleted...
>
> Laurie
>
Personnally, I always considered it to be 60 minutes of mayhem inside of
a 85x200 box, divided into thirds. (the minutes, not the box.)
;)
All seriousness aside, I do recall commentary about the Penguins' ongoing
problems with poor ice at their Igloo. Since they were trying to be a
finesse passing playmaking team, rutty or uneven ice (from sloppy Zamboni
work) was a problem. Ruts and ripples *do* make the puck do weird things,
like jump over sticks. Or pads. That's why goalies scuff out any lumps
around the goal, even out beyond the faceoff dots.
So, like in baseball where they supposedly water down the infield or mow
it sideways or whatever depending on the opponent, can the Zamboni drivers
make the ice better at one end than the other? Lets face it - uneven ice
in your defending zone would help you against precision passing teams, eh?
- DW
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 16:52 PST 1994
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:51:04 PST
From: email@hidden (Sheri Gillette)
Subject: Falloooooooooooon @ Macy's!!!!!!!
Fallon will be signing WATCHES??? (That's what it says!!)
Macy's Valley Fair
THIS Saturday...
3pm...
They have *SHARKS* "Fossil" watches for sale there...$65...
See ya there!!!
"Falloooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!"
At my first game I aksed..."Why are they Boo-ing???"
O8*)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 19:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:24:59 PST
Subject: Need tix for 3/20
I need two tickets for the game on 3/20. I'm not picky about location.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 19:02 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:27:42 PST
Subject: Minor league salaries
Chuq posted something on the giants list about the appallingly low pay for
minor league baseball players (less than minimum wage, it would appear). Is
the same true for hockey?
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Thu Mar 3 23:13 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Falloooooooooooon @ Macy's!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 23:12:32 PST
>"Falloooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!"
>At my first game I aksed..."Why are they Boo-ing???"
When Falloon first played as a Shark, he thought the crowd was booing him.
For a while there, he thought the fans didn't like him. Someone finally
clued him in.
Ken Zarifes
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 05:26 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:21:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
Some one has put me on this mailing list and I want off!!!!
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 06:21 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
They'll win again
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:03 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Heckadon
How do I get off this list. Someone has put me on it as a joke.
|||
(. .)
--------------------------------------------------------OOo-U-oOO-------------
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Gordon Heckadon
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:10 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:08:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Radio changes
Because of A's baseball, some more games are moving from KFRC to KLIV:
3/10 vs. the Ducks, 3/12 vs. the flames, 3/19 vs. the kings, 3/20 vs. the kings,
3/25 vs. the jets, 4/7 vs. the Canucks, 4/8 vs. the flames and 4/13 vs. the
Oilers.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:15 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:14:21 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Eagleson Indicted?
I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
this?
On a completely different topic: don't forget to cheer for the
Santa Clara Valley Blackhawks Squirt B team as they skate against
the Sant Rosa Squirts on Sunday! I don't know if we'll be skating
at the first or the second intermission, but the kids are pumped!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:28 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:26:24 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Eagleson Indicted?
>I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
>this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
>Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
>this?
Yup. 32 federal counts, including embezzlement, mail fraud, racketeering,
obstruction of justice and other goodies. They asking for a return of some
millions of dollars in funds. It's a real laundry list, from kickbacks and
bribes to outright fraud, use of funds for personal investments and all
sorts of fun stuff.
I hope they nail his butt, even if only 10% of this is true.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:34 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 07:56:36 PST
From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
Subject: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
Has anyone else noticed the improved coverage in the Merc finally. They been
real good on even non-game days about covering the Sharks and have even had a
few double page issues. The Sharks always seem to get at least a couple of
inches on the front page. The Sharks seem to have transitioned from the "ugly
car crash" type of articles to "serious fan interest" type of articles now that
the team is doing well.
Does anyone know when Mike Weaver's last day is? I thought he would have been
gone by now, especially after the Merc gave him a lot of space to write his
goodbye letter a couple of months ago. You'd figure that they wait to run it
on his last day.
Shark players (and ex-players) have drawn a lot of suspensions out of other
players lately.
1. Neil Wilkinson - Tony Granato ?? games for the chop on Wilinsion
2. David Maley - Mike Fitzpatrick 2 games for slashing
3. Jimmy Baker - Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging
At least the Sharks haven't pulled any suspensions.
Who's on the trading block? The trading deadline is fast approaching and the
Sharks have always drop a few players just before the draft. But this year
it's going to be different. I imaging that the tensions are running a bit high
in the locker room now that Larinov and Norton are back in the line-up.
If you have a child between the ages of 6-12 (I think) and they'd like to be
an honorary stick boy/girl listen to KLIV-1590am. I'm mine not sure on the exact
conditions so give them a call. If they pick you, you get 4 tickets to the
NY Islander game, get to sit on the bench during warmups, a signed hockey stick
and a chance to meet all of the players. You need to fax or write them before
March 7/8 and the game is on the March 10. Give them a call for exact details.
And finally..
Thanks to whoever posted the record against the Ducks yesterday. I won tickets
to Sunday's Ducks game because I knew it was 5-0 and was the right caller on
KLIV.
--
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Edward McGettigan | Crosspoint Solutions Inc. |
|email@hidden | FPGA Applications Engineer 408.988.1584 |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 08:56 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:54:02 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Has anyone else noticed the improved coverage in the Merc finally.
It's been that way all season. They really stepped up the coverage this
year. I'm frankly impressed, and it's now on a par with what you can get in
a number of other hockey citys. Not up to the par of the top cities, but you
can do a lot worse (frankly, what I've seen out of LA is not as good as we
get now. The LA Daily News is pretty horrible).
>The Sharks seem to have transitioned from the "ugly
>car crash" type of articles to "serious fan interest" type of articles now that
>the team is doing well.
Funny, winning and playoff contention will do that...
>Does anyone know when Mike Weaver's last day is?
I think you're confused. I don't believe Weaver is going anywhere. Teh one
who wrote the letter was Mark Purdy, who left for Cincinatti January 9. The
Merc is still looking for a replacement.
>Who's on the trading block?
If there's a trade on the horizon, it's for scoring forwards, and it'd be
giving up defensemen. If I were Jay More, I'd probably be nervous. The only
defensemen that probably aren't nervous are Sandis and Vlasti Kroupa. I
could see any of the others being traded for the right package, but it'd
have to be a good deal to give up someone like Sykora or Rathje. I'm still
wondering if we can work something out for Sakic, but it doens't seem
likely.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:08 PST 1994
From: Jon Cohen
Subject: 3/3 Game Report
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 9:02:36 -0800 (PST)
The Sharks did what they had to do, grinding out a 4-2
win over Edmonton to open their home stand and stay five
points ahead of both the Kings and Ducks in the playoff race.
Edmonton clearly wanted this game badly, as the Sharks did,
and the entire close-checking game had an intense, hard-fought
quality. I couldn't detect a single Shark who wasnt busting his
fin out there. Captain Errey--who must burn more calories per
game than anyone else in the league, was a forechecking
whirlwind. Falloon, Ellik, Odgers, and Baker all also
forechechecked furiously, taking the hits when necessary
to keep the Sharks in control.
The return of Norton and Larionov made the difference in
the game. Norton was a pillar of strength at the blue line and
also had assists on two games. There was one 4 on 4 situation
in the game when we had Norton, Ozolinsh, Makarov, and
Larionov out there, and--for my first time as a Sharks
fan--I got the sense that we had an awesome lineup on
the ice that was really something tough for the opponent
to contend with. Larionov was at his playmaking best,
sending in Garpenlov for a breakaway goal at the end
of the second period that pretty much put the game
away.
Makarov had another strong game, with one goal and one
assist. His goal was a beauty, as he wrapped around the
net, came in front, and deked Ranford into a paralized,
helpless state before backhanding it in. Reminded me of
one of those magicians who steal your shirt while
your jacket is still buttoned. I am
amazed at Makarov's ability to accelerate, and to
stop instantly at full speed while keeping control of
the puck. Maybe only Gretzky can do (could?) these things as well.
Ranford did not have a good game. He looked
slightly chicken and stiffened up on Ozolinshes
first Sharks goal--a semi-breakaway. It wasn't clear
to me if Ozolinsh pumped and changed-up on the shot on
purpose, or whether he just partly fanned and had
his soft shot slide past the frozen Ranford. Ranford
handled both the Garpenlov and Whitney breakaways by
leaving a corner and then trying to fill it up.
This failed both times, as he was cleanly beaten.
Quite a contrast to Irbe, who takes everything
square and does not show off. One thing that really
makes Irbe stand out, I think, is is his ability and
willingness to make a tough save look easy, whereas
other goalies seem eager to pose for the photos of that
perfect toe save.
Two other stars--Cronin, who delivered a clear message
early that the big, lunky, physical Edmonton team could
not push the Sharks around, and Kroupa, who is tough in
front of the net, deft at both poke- and bodychecking,
and --at 18--plays like a cagey veteran.
Two disappointments--the "playoffs" chant never became
too intense. The top deck did its part, but the
club seats were indifferent or else just clueless. Also,
referree Jackson did his best to keep Edmonton in
the game, calling a net 6 extra minutes of pwer play on us and
applying a mysterious, personal standard.
****
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:18 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:15:17 +0800
From: email@hidden (Ralph Torres)
Subject: Irbe autographs
In yesterday's (thursday) SJ Mercury News sports page (the "hockey page")
there was an ad for an autograph signing by Irbe.
I can't remember the name of the card/collectible shop, but here's
what I do recall:
WHERE: somplace on N. Santa Cruz Ave, Menlo Park
WHEN: Saturday, March 5, 2-3pm
COST: free with minimum purchase, or $5
On another note, the latest annual report for San Jose Water Company
(neighbors of the Arena) contains plenty of rather cool Arena and
Sharks pictures.
"playoffs! playoffs! playoffs!"
Ralph
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 09:50 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:49:26 -0800
From: email@hidden (Kevin McCallum)
Subject: Begging for 2 Ducks tix 3/6!
Hello,
I am in desperate need of 2 tickets for this Sunday's (3/6)
Mighty Ducks game.....most preferably in the Club Seats if possible!
I've promised a girlfriend to take her that day, and the seats I'd
been planning on buying just suddenly fell through.....so price is
no object! Whatever it takes to make this happen, I'm ready and
willing to do.
I can be reached by phone at the following numbers:
WORK/DAYTIME: (510) 644-3600 ext.#308
HOME/EVENING: (707) 762-5567 ans.machine
I can also be reached by e-mail at this address (not on weekends):
email@hidden
If anyone has any suggestions about what else I may do to obtain
tickets to this sold out game, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks much.
=Kev.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 10:59 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 10:59:07 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
> From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
> Who's on the trading block? The trading deadline is fast approaching and the
> Sharks have always drop a few players just before the draft. But this year
> it's going to be different. I imaging that the tensions are running a bit high
> in the locker room now that Larinov and Norton are back in the line-up.
Uh, has anyone seen Dale Craigwell on the ice lately? He doesn't exactly
look to be in the catbird seat around here (which is too bad, really,
but guys who aren't given much ice time had better not make a lot of
permanent commitments).
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| "My Macintosh doesn't go out in the rain." |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:32 PST 1994
From: Valerie Schmitt
Subject: Thank you all.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:31:42 -0500 (EST)
Hi all,
I don't want to use up too much space to say this, but I really wanted
to tell all of you how much I appreciate the civility of the Sharks
Byte list. I'm also on the Isles and Bruins lists (sorry, I was born in
NY and live in Boston ... self preservation ;-) and they are constantly
at each others' throats. We Sharks fans don't always agree on
everything, but at least we're relatively polite about it!
Thanks for keeping a Sharks fan lost on the other coast in-the-know!
PLAYOFFS!
VJ
_______________________________________________________________________
Valerie J. Schmitt IRI Software "... immerse yourself in the
617-290-4500 x7918 200 Fifth Ave great riddle of this dream of
email@hidden Waltham MA 02154 life here on earth." Thomas Mann
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:34 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:31:47 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Uh, has anyone seen Dale Craigwell on the ice lately?
True, but when you're talking trading block, there has to be a market value
attached. You could make a good case for trading away Jamie Baker, Dale, Jay
More, Mike Lalor and possibly Jimmy Waite (but that would complicate the
Kansas City playoff race horribly, which is probably why Jimmy will stick
the rest of the season, but may not play again), but what would we get in
return? Would it be useful? And doesn't that leave us rather thin in case of
injury?
Dale's a nice guy, He hustles, plays beyond his size, and has done a pretty
good job at shadowing some of the Big Boys like Gretzky and Lindros, but he
can only play so much bigger than his size, and that's an ultimate weakness.
Elik has taken over a good chunk of his face-off responsibility, and that
makes him somewhat expendable. But how many other teams out there are going
to trade something we need for an undersized mosquito who's a face-off whiz?
There just isn't that big a market.
So if we lose Dale, it's more as a player to make a trade happen than a
cornerstone.
Speaking of Elik, any reaction by Sather or the team to the sign?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 11:47 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:45:38 PST
From: email@hidden (Curtis Chen)
Subject: Radio changes
Zippy-Says: Am I SHOPLIFTING?
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 08:08:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Sender: email@hidden
Content-Length: 239
Because of A's baseball, some more games are moving from KFRC to KLIV:
What frequency does KLIV broadcast on?
Curtis
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 12:22 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 12:15:38 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Begging for 2 Ducks tix
Reply to: RE>Begging for 2 Ducks tix 3/6
Kevin McCallum asks:
>If anyone has any suggestions about what else I may do to obtain tickets
>to this sold out game, I'd love to hear them.
The Sharks withhold a certain number of tickets for the visiting team, league
officials, etc., plus (I think) they withhold a few hundred more to deter
scalpers. These tickets, which normally number 600-1000, go on sale at 9:30AM
on the morning of the game at the Arena box office only. Not having purchased
tickets this way, I don't know if you should show up a little before the box
office open; if I were you, however, I would.
>From my own experience buying a ticket at the box office the night of a game
(I'd already given up my season ticket for the night, but my plans changed),
the more expensive seats tend to sell last. Any $14 seats they have left are
snapped up instantly.
Hope this helps!
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 12:47 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:45:56 +0800
From: email@hidden (Steve Worth)
Subject: Re: Irbe autographs
Arthurs will be at Home Field Advantage
Sat march 5
2-3 pm
626 Santa Cruz ave (1 block west of the El Camino)
415-323-9450
This sounds like a short autographing time.
> From email@hidden Fri Mar 4 10:17 PST 1994
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Irbe autographs
> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
> Sender: email@hidden
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 529
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>
>
> In yesterday's (thursday) SJ Mercury News sports page (the "hockey page")
> there was an ad for an autograph signing by Irbe.
>
> I can't remember the name of the card/collectible shop, but here's
> what I do recall:
>
> WHERE: somplace on N. Santa Cruz Ave, Menlo Park
> WHEN: Saturday, March 5, 2-3pm
> COST: free with minimum purchase, or $5
>
> On another note, the latest annual report for San Jose Water Company
> (neighbors of the Arena) contains plenty of rather cool Arena and
> Sharks pictures.
>
> "playoffs! playoffs! playoffs!"
>
> Ralph
>
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 13:14 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 13:09:19 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Suspensions
Subject: Time:12:40 PM
OFFICE MEMO Suspensions Date:3/4/94
Ed McGettigan sez (with a few corrections by me):
>Tony Granato ?? games for the chop on Wilkinson
15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache. Granato viewed a tape
of the incident, said he was "sickened" by his own actions, and admitted that
nothing Wilkinson did to him (a hard, clean check, from reports I've read)
could possibly justify his response. What a breath of fresh air from the "it
was unintentional" or "you didn't see what he did to me right before that"
whining of many of this season's other suspendees.
>Mark Fitzpatrick 2 games for slashing David Maley
Again, the concensus is that this was a slap on the wrist, despite the fact
that Andy Van Hellemond did not even throw Fitzpatrick out of the game (he got
a double minor, I believe). Van Hellemond apparently felt that Maley had taken
a run at Fitzpatrick behind the net, partially mitigating the chop to the face
(his reasoning, not mine).
>Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging Bob Errey
4 games, I believe. And it happened in his second game after returning to LA.
The Kings have been acting all season like they think they can't win without
him. So they trade to get him back, he scores on his first shift after
rejoining the Kings (in the game before LA played the Sharks), and then the
Kings are without him again for four more games! Sometimes you can't win for
losing...
>At least the Sharks haven't pulled any suspensions.
Umm, actually, we did. If you'll recall, earlier in the season Errey checked
Calgary's Frank Musil into the boards from behind, earning a game misconduct
and a 2 game suspension. I don't think we've gotten any suspensions for
multiple stick-related majors, however, unlike the first two seasons (Gaetz,
Odgers, and Jay More, I believe)...
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:31 PST 1994
From: Kris Davis
Subject: Sharks ticket for Sunday's game
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:22:19 -0800 (PST)
Is there anyone out there that has tickets available for Sunday's
game against the Ducks?
email@hidden
Kris Davis, Revenue Clerk ()_()
Cash Goddess (_)
Revenue "Squeak! Squeak, I tell you! Squeak!"
ext. 4566 (direct line (408) 429-4566)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:11:58 PST
From: email@hidden (Douglas B. O'Morain)
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
>
> If there's a trade on the horizon, it's for scoring forwards, and it'd be
> giving up defensemen. If I were Jay More, I'd probably be nervous. The only
> defensemen that probably aren't nervous are Sandis and Vlasti Kroupa. I
> could see any of the others being traded for the right package, but it'd
> have to be a good deal to give up someone like Sykora or Rathje. I'm still
> wondering if we can work something out for Sakic, but it doens't seem
> likely.
Speaking of Rathje, what was the deal with him last night? I got there
rather late, so I wouldn't know if he has an injury or anything. I
thought I saw him on the bench, but I don't recall him playing a single
shift. Is he in the doghouse, injured, or other?
dbo
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 14:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:13:48 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Sharks of Old banished?
>From a private conversation:
> ... Have the Sharks of Old finally been banished again?
I certainly hope so. They played a solid 60 minutes of quality hockey
last night. I don't know how much of the apparent quality was because
of the stumblebums they were playing against, but it looked to me like
it was real. I especially remember one two-on-one where Zmolek was
trying to threaten them both. He seems to have intimidated the puck-
handler (right winger) into not passing to the left winger, then he
went down and blocked the shot with his body. The guy next to me
cringed in sympathetic pain, amidst comments about Zmolek's suddenly
high voice. Z. *was* rather slow and cautious as he went off the ice.
That sort of effort seemed to typify the game.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:17 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:15:51 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramblings
>Speaking of Rathje, what was the deal with him last night? I got there
>rather late, so I wouldn't know if he has an injury or anything. I
>thought I saw him on the bench, but I don't recall him playing a single
>shift. Is he in the doghouse, injured, or other?
Rat has had a couple of minor injuries recently, an abdominal strain
and a ligament strain in one knee. It's possible he agravated one or the
other.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:42 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:38:40 PST
From: email@hidden (Brian Ackley)
Subject: Missing insert card
Help!
I missed the insert card for the game on February 21st. Since I'm
trying to complete a full set, I would really like to find this card!
I believe it was Mark Beaufait?!? I have a few extra to trade if this
would help anyone else collecting them.
Thanks,
Brian
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 15:59 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 15:52:08 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Misc. Late Season Ramb
email@hidden
Reply to: RE>> Misc. Late Season Rambl
Chuq sez:
>Rat has had a couple of minor injuries recently, an abdominal strain
>and a ligament strain in one knee.
In yesterday morning's Murky News, they listed the ligament strain as the
reason Rathje might be kept out of the game. His injury was "day-to-day".
Igor Larionov was also listed as day-to-day with the flu, but fortunately he
was able to play.
One more name to add to Jon Cohen's list of Sharks who performed really well
last night: Mike Lalor, who quite possibly had his best game of the season.
In most games, Lalor seems to be either invisible (not necessary a bad thing
for a defensive defenseman), a step late, or inaccurate with his passes. Last
night he was rock solid: intercepting passes, getting in the Oilers' way,
skating around opponents with the puck under control, and making smart passes.
The fact that I normally have negative (or at best neutral) feelings about his
play made his good work last night stand out.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:06 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 1994 16:01:22 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Missing insert card
Reply to: RE>Missing insert card
Brian Ackley sez:
>I missed the insert card for the game on February 21st.
I haven't checked at the Arena Sharks Store, but I noticed several weeks ago
that the Vallco Sharks Store had a large stack of the collectible lineup cards
behind the counter. I don't know how long it takes for the store(s) to get the
cards from specific games (I don't believe the Vallco store got them in until
just before Christmas), but you can probably call and ask when they'll get in
the remaining cards from that game.
Dave Comstock (who needs to compile a list of games he's missed so far this
season and take a trip to the store himself ;-)
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:32 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 16:25:00 PST
From: "andre kvitka"
Subject: Sharks on-line
I am not sure this is the right place but I'll give it a try. I hear
there is a Sharks info/BBS/something that all my friends get mail
from, getttinf updates on the team, etc. Can I get on the mailing
list, please?
-Andre Kvitka
************************************************************************
* Andre Kvitka Internet: email@hidden *
* InfoWorld Magazine MCI: 529-1119 *
* San Mateo, CA CompuServe: 76702,1464 *
* 415.312.0595 *
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:53 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:53:01 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: KLIV and KKHI radio
For northerly Sharks fans, the games broadcast on KLIV (1590) in SJ are
also broadcast on KKHI (1500+), from San Francisco. That includes
Sunday's Ducks game.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 16:57 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:56:01 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Nedved signs with the Blues
Mentioned only because we've talked about possibly acquiring him, Canuck
holdout Petr Nedved has come to an agreement with the Blues. The Bluies now
have a few days to come to agreement with the Canucks for compensation, or
it goes to an arbitrator.
Not that I wanted an attitude like Nedved on the Sharks, but it's one 30 goal
player out of the market, and not going to a team that can affect our playoff
chnces.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 17:33 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 17:15:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Edward McGettigan)
Subject: Anheim Ducks Tickets For Sale
I have 2 $14.00 tickets for this Sunday's Duck game at 2:00pm
Section 209 Row 13 Seats 3&4 $14.00 each
If you're interested contact me.
Ed McGettigan
Home:408-748-9488
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 17:41 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:06:28 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Suspensions
>15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
>was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache.
Actually, concussed, but was able to play the next game. It wasn't a
horrible concussion. Thank god for helmets.
And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which would
you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed and doing
what Granato did?
>Van Hellemond apparently felt that Maley had taken
>a run at Fitzpatrick behind the net, partially mitigating the chop to the face
>(his reasoning, not mine).
Burke agrees with Van Hellemond. Maley doesn't, and is muttering about
lawyers. Burke has invited Maley to come visit and they'll go over the tape
frame by frame and explain WHY they ruling was made. I expect Maley won't go
through with legal action, but Burke's been pretty straight-shooting this
year, so if he says he saw something on tape, I tend to think he's right.
>>Marty McSorley ?? games for eye gouging Bob Errey
>4 games, I believe.
Yes.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 18:21 PST 1994
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:23:01 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: Eagleson Indicted?
>I saw a quick slide on the news as I walked through our lobby
>this morning about the Federal government indicting Alan
>Eagleson for fraud. Does anybody have more information on
>this?
Read a book called "Net Worth" I can get you the ISBN number if you like.
It tells all about how Eagleson stole from the NHLPA, and did not hel pas
much as he should have. He allegedly ripped off the NHLPA pension fund for
huge amounts of $$ to support his sizeable entourage which followed him to
all events from NHL games to International Hockey tourneys...
Boy have the NHL players been screwed over the past 50 years if anything
that book said had any semblance of truth...
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Fri Mar 4 18:55 PST 1994
Date: 4 Mar 94 18:51:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: Power play killing as an art form
Unlike some earlier respondents, I don't think last night's game
was really such a great, hard hitting game (but I am VERY SATISFIED with
the final score). I thought the Sharks coasted a bit after they got the
4-1 lead, and it almost hurt them. There were some real bright spots,
however, including the Playoffs chant (well, WE were making noise),
and something else I'm wondering if people noticed. In the third
--- sorry, make that the second- period, Sharks up 3-1, Edmonton on the
power play, the Sharks did a hell of a job killing off a very determined
attack. They did not clear the puck out (or Ah-oot, for those who prefer
the French pronunciation) out of the zone, but they did an amazing job
of keeping the Oilers from getting off a good shot. At least two Sharks
went down and blocked shots, there was some serious checking to keep
Oilers from parking in front of Irbe, and some impressive stamina shown
by the Sharks, as they were not exactly in a position to pull a line
change. I think the puck was in the Sharks defensive zone over 90 seconds
of a 2 minute PP, and yet the penalty was killed off cleanly.
By the way; I was at an engineering nerd conference in the Fairmount
all week, and saw the Oilers check in. I really wanted to thank Sather
for giving us Elik, so I asked if he was there, but fortunately for me
he wasn't; in hindsight, it probably would not have been a good idea to be
a wise ass in front of 20 guys who were all a lot - and I mean A LOT- bigger
then me. (No, I didn't ask Manson how his family was either).
See you Sunday. PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS!
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 00:24 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: Re: Suspensions (fwd)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:22:51 -0800 (PST)
Chuq Von Rospach writes:
> >15 games, and the general concensus is that wasn't enough. Fortunately, Neil
> >was not hurt, although I suspect he had a bad headache.
>
> Actually, concussed, but was able to play the next game. It wasn't a
> horrible concussion. Thank god for helmets.
>
> And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which would
> you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed and doing
> what Granato did?
Neither. And I think that the league made an example out of Granato. 15 games
is a very significant suspension; it's equivalent to a 30 game suspension in
baseball.
If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys, then
I think they will learn quickly.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 07:26 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 07:25:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Suspensions (fwd)
>Neither. And I think that the league made an example out of Granato.
They did. And neither is a laudable goal, but I don't think it's a practical
one.
>If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys, then
>I think they will learn quickly.
Definitely. I wonder when they'll just take Kasparitus out and shoot him,
though. Put him out of our misery.
(hey! nelson lives! hi, nelson!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 13:02 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 12:48:51 -0800
From: Girard Ramsay
Subject: Re: Suspensions
>
> And if anyone wants a pro-fighting argument, watch this tape. Which
> would you prefer: Two people dropping gloves, or someone getting pissed
> and doing what Granato did?
Actually, the NHL *does* have fighting. And yet, the Granato incident still
happened!!!!:-)
I'm not a total anti-fighting person (I *am* a total anti-cheap-shot person),
but does this 'fighting or stickwork' argument sound to anybody else like
"let's legalize assault in order to prevent murders"?
Girard Ramsay
email@hidden
120/6/8-9
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 14:15 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Daryll France)
Subject: Tickets for Sun vs Ducks
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 14:18:37 PST
Gang,
I have two tickets in section 117, row 21 for $38 each (face value).
Give me a call at (408) 285-7675 and leave a message, or better yet,
page me at (408) 989-8163. I'm not likely to see a reply to this
message, so please call.
-Daryll
Sec 117 Row 21 Seats 11-12
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 14:20 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 14:20:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Kasparitus and Ducks PP
> >If the league can take consistent and severe action on cheap shot guys,
>
> Definitely. I wonder when they'll just take Kasparitus out and shoot him,
> though. Put him out of our misery.
Yesterday (Friday), K. got a minor for interference when he went down on
his knees to trip a guy.
BTW, just to encourage some optimism for tomorrow's Ducks game: last
night, the Ducks scored a power-play goal to end a 30-PP string of failures
at home. Even our penalty-killers should have a good time with these guys.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 16:08 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:06:56 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Playoff dates
from AOL
NHL PLAYOFFS:
(All series best-of-seven)
CONFERENCE QUARTERFINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, April 17
Tuesday, April 19
Thursday, April 21
Saturday, April 23
Monday, April 25 (if necessary)
Wednesday, April 27 (if necessary)
Friday, April 29 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, April 18
Wednesday, April 20
Friday, April 22
Sunday, April 24
Tuesday, April 26 (if necessary)
Thursday, April 28 (if necessary)
Saturday, April 30 (if necessary)
CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, May 1
Tuesday, May 3
Thursday, May 5
Saturday, May 7
Monday, May 9 (if necessary)
Wednesday, May 11 (if necessary)
Friday, May 13 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, May 2
Wednesday, May 4
Friday, May 6
Sunday, May 8
Tuesday, May 10 (if necessary)
Thursday, May 12 (if necessary)
Saturday, May 14 (if necessary)
CONFERENCE FINALS:
Eastern Conference:
Sunday, May 15
Tuesday, May 17
Thursday, May 19
Saturday, May 21
Monday, May 23 (if necessary)
Wednesday, May 25 (if necessary)
Friday, May 27 (if necessary)
Western Conference:
Monday, May 16
Wednesday, May 18
Friday, May 20
Sunday, May 22
Tuesday, May 24 (if necessary)
Thursday, May 26 (if necessary)
Saturday, May 28 (if necessary)
STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP:
Tuesday, May 31
Thursday, June 2
Saturday, June 4
Tuesday, June 7
Thursday, June 9 (if necessary)
Saturday, June 11 (if necessary)
Tuesday, June 14 (if necessary)
Note: Dates for the Finals series are tentative; the series could begin sooner.
FROM: The Hockey News, 3/4/94
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 16:41 PST 1994
From: Brian Bechtel
Subject: Playoff ticket orders!
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:40:14 PST
I received the Sharks mailing about playoff tickets today. The costs
for single tickets has been set, but no date when you can purchase
single tickets has yet been set. Costs are:
Regular Round 1, 2 Round 3
------- ---------- -------
$65 $75 $85
$55 $65 $75
$38 $43 $50
$38 $43 $50
$28 $32 $39
$24 $28 $35
$18 $22 $28
$14 $16 $22
Round 1 is conference quarterfinals, round 2 is conference semifinals,
round 3 is conference finals. Prices for Stanley Cup tickets (i.e.
"round 4") haven't been set.
Round 1 games are played 2/2/1/1/1 starting at the higher seeded team.
Pacific Division versus Midwest Division may be played as 2/3/2 to save
travel costs and time. This works out somehow to 11 theoretically
possible playoff games in the first three rounds, probably having
something to do with winning all our remaining games while Chicago,
Vancouver, etc. slump.
Season ticket holders can purchase one additional strip of 11 tickets
for each season ticket they currently hold (i.e. a holder of 2 season
tickets can purchase 4 playoff strips.) Additional strips will only be
fufilled after all sales to full-season and partial-season ticket
holders has been fufilled.
Season ticket holders have to have playoff orders in by March 28th.
Public sales dates for playoff tickets have not been announced. Season
ticket holders get no break on single ticket sales; they line up at the
Arena box office or call BASS just like everyone else.
--Brian Bechtel email@hidden "My opinion, not Apple's"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 19:11 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Playoff tickets
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 19:11:18 -0800 (PST)
Received the playoff ticket form today. Prices range from $16 to $75 per game,
i.e., $200 - $865 per 11-game strip (the only way the Sharks are selling them).
I won't post all the info unless asked, since everyone who is eligible should
get the letter too. One thing of note is that you can list first through
third choices for the kind of seats you want. (I take it that the full
season holders get to keep their seats? I'm a partial...)
Also, refunds for unplayed games can happen by check/credit card or by rolling
it over on next season's tickets; your choice.
My favorite sentence: "Should the Sharks advance to the second round, a
separate billing will be sent out for the Stanley Cup Finals."
Imagine reading something like that back in October. :-)
Derek
--
Derek LeLash, SrTechWriter/INFP|"I could tell you 'bout the nights when I was
BASYS Automation Systems, Inc. | lonely, and you were the only one who'd talk.
home: email@hidden | I could tell you that I like your sensitivity,
work: email@hidden| but you know it's the way that you walk." (EC)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sat Mar 5 19:39 PST 1994
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 19:38:17 -0800
From: Frank Giraffe
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
the third round seems sorta bogus.
Well, at least we have such things to complain about! :-)
-Frank
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:17 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 1994 19:26:22 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:19 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 14:24:07 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:28 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 02:37:09 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 12:33 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 00:33:44 EST
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
The Microsoft Mail Form used contained fields that are unknown to
PostalUnion. This mail contains the content of the mail body ONLY.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:25 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 17:26:08 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
> The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
> resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
> the third round seems sorta bogus.
I'm just happy they didn't raise it more. After all, in 1987, after paying
$8 or $9 a game for the Giants, I had to pay $25 for the playoffs and
$40 for the World Series. Of course, I got the W.S. money back. :-(
Meanwhile,
> Season ticket holders can purchase one additional strip of 11 tickets
> for each season ticket they currently hold (i.e. a holder of 2 season
> tickets can purchase 4 playoff strips.)
Uh, which is it? (I don't have the letter with me here.) This seems like
a good chance for list members to share their ticket rights. If partial-
season or non-season friends want to buy strips of 11 for the playoffs,
I'm certainly willing to buy and resell extras.
The only possible hitch is that refunds would come to the original
purchaser. If I pay by credit card, I get a credit; if by check, they
send me a check. Therefore, the friend would pay the ticketholder for
the full 11 tickets, then would trust the ticketholder to pass along the
refund for unplayed games.
Hey, "unplayed games" isn't negativism; if we take all three series
in four or five games, we only use six home tickets, right? :-)
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| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:44 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 17:44:23 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: SWEEP!
Maybe the Ducks should take some tips from Tampa Bay, having gone
0 for California so far this year. (They finished 0-6 against the
Sharks and 0-4 (I think it's four, so far) against L.A. Tampa,
on the other hand, can't lose in California. Go figure.
David Pollack, of the M-N, said the suits were going to ban brooms
again today. Did anyone out there have actual experiences with that?
At least three of us, in 117, did bring whiskbrooms (no broomsticks)
without problems. I even dusted off our aisle's bluecoat (with a smile).
If we somehow get to be 3-0 in the playoffs, I certainly hope they
rethink their official broom policy!
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
| BUFFALO THE SABRES! HASSLE HASIK! |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 17:44 PST 1994
From: Nelson Lu
Subject: A request
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:42:44 -0800 (PST)
I will be posting a summary sometime today.
However, if anyone has an instant access to the box score right now, I would
appreciate it right now, before I finalize the summary. (AP sucks.)
Thanks.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 20:56 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 20:55:13 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: For AOL users
If you're an AOL user, I've got a bit of a favor to ask. I got tired of
listening to people whine about lack of coverage for their favorite trivia
sport in the Mercury Center, and so I posted a bit of a parody of them in
Ann Killion's folder (caffeine and late hours will do this to you. Kids,
this man is a writer, don't try this at home).
Anyway, just to make things even weirder, I'd like anyone who has an AOL
account who wants to help pimp the Merc a bit to PLEASE take a couple of minutes
to find the article and post a follow-up supporting it. I figure if we can
get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining about the lack of coverage
of the world championships for curling we can make the mercury news just
a bit crazy, no?
(we now return you to your regularly scheduled playoff hunt!)
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From Shark-Bytes-request Sun Mar 6 21:23 PST 1994
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 21:24:11 PST
From: email@hidden (Ed Rush)
Subject: Re: For AOL users
> I figure if we can
> get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining about the lack of coverage
> of the world championships for curling ...
Hey, that would be rather interesting. I'm tired of seeing almost nothing
but basketall and football and baseball contract-signings.
Seriously Chuq, just a couple of years ago, we hockey fans were whining
about lack of coverage for our favorite trivia sport. We *still* want to
see more coverage of it (like some of the stuff they cut from last year).
When I'm in Britain, I'm glad to see tidbits on that weird American game,
baseball.
Personally, I think the M-N *should* pay attention to so-called trivia
sports (other than basketball).
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| Ed Rush, not speaking for Metaphor, Mtn. View, CA |
| Internet: email@hidden AOL: email@hidden |
| Epicenter: 117/17/11-12 TR3A: TS 66235 L |
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 00:09 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 00:07:03 -0800 (PST)
From: BEAT LA
Subject: splattered duck
Wow! I go to school in so-cal so I got to see the Sharks-Ducks game on
KCAL and, boy was that impressive. That was a mauling.
In any case, I didn't find out who the three stars were. My uneducated
guess is in no particular order: Sandis, Irbe, Markarov. Could someone post
the stars?
BTW, I'm going to be up in the Bay area for spring break. Could someone post
or e-mail me the home dates between March 11 and March 20.
Thanks
In teal and black we trust,
Chris Freud
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 00:27 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 00:25:29 -0800 (PST)
From: BEAT LA
Subject: Tix v. Senators 3-17
I need one. I'm going to be in the Bay Area for spring break next week and
would like to the home team against thge senators.
Phone: (909) 621-8555 x2390 (college)
E-mail: email@hidden
in teeal and black we trust,
Chris Freud
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:34 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:33:55 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: splattered duck
>In any case, I didn't find out who the three stars were. My uneducated
>guess is in no particular order: Sandis, Irbe, Markarov. Could someone post
>the stars?
Not bad: Irbe was third, Sandis 2nd, and Sergei first.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:39 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 11:36:28 EST
Subject: KC Blades
The Kansas City Blades are not very happy at the moment. They are not
thrilled at all with Flaherty being called up to San Jose for a couple of
weeks. They feel they need him in their hunt for a playoff spot.
Also Duane Joyce who was just back in the line up from a broken leg is out
for the season. Someone accidentally skated over his ankle during last weeks
Cinn. game and severed his achilles tendon. Joe Cleary is out with a
seperated shoulder.
This past weekends games were all decided by a shootout. Fridays game (score
escapes me) they lost to Milwaukee (Corwin Saurdiff in goal). Sat. they beat
Milwaukee 4-3 and Sunday they beat Vegas 2-1 (Flaherty in goal for both those
games).
Anyone out there a good cook? It seems just before Xmas Dody Wood asked a
member of the KC Blades fan club if he paid her would she cook a home cooked
dinner for him. The president of the fan club ended up taking a full course
(all the trimmings) turkey dinner to Dodys house for Dody, Nazarov, Cherbayev
and several other Blades players.
And I'm doing my part to promote the sport of Hockey. My cousin who tours
with the rock band "Meatloaf" had a free day in Kansas City Saturday. He
went to see the Blades play. This from a guy who never goes to sporting
events!
Rene
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:45 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:45:22 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Minor league salaries
>Chuq posted something on the giants list about the appallingly low pay for
>minor league baseball players (less than minimum wage, it would appear). Is
>the same true for hockey?
I don't believe it's so bad, but I don't have full numbers. I vaguely
remember that when Rathje signed his contract it was a two-way contract and
the number bandied about for the IHL side of things was in the 20K a year
range.
There are two big differences between minor league baseball and minor league
hockey. First, hockey doen't have the anti-trust exemption and so has a lot
less power to force players to do what they want them to, and second, if a
player doesn't like the deal, he can go play elsewhere, especially in
europe. Because of that, they have to be somewhat more competitive in
salaries than baseball, where the alternative is, oh, the Northern League,
or maybe Mexico.
Or flipping burgers at Wendys.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:48 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 08:46:47 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Re: For AOL users
chuq writes:
"...I figure if we can get twelve or thirteen people ALL complaining
about the lack of coverage of the world championships for curling we
can make the mercury news just a bit crazy, no?"
Funny you should mention curling. At our regular Friday night practice
at the Ice Centre I was talking to one of the employees who mentioned
that there is a movement afoot to get some ice time for, you guessed it,
curling! If I find out more, I'll pass it on! They've already had a
short track speed skating event there; who knows what else might be
next.
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:52 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:51:27 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: KC Blades
>The Kansas City Blades are not very happy at the moment. They are not
>thrilled at all with Flaherty being called up to San Jose for a couple of
>weeks. They feel they need him in their hunt for a playoff spot.
I'll bet. For those wondering what's going on, it was announced this morning
in the Merc that Jimmy Waite has a minor cartilage tear in one knee and is
going to get scoped. He thinks he tore it in the last Dallas start, and has
been working with it, and the decision is that he just can't wait.
He's expected to be out at least ten days. During that time, Flaherty will
be with San Jose.
That basically means that Kansas City will be going with Saurdiff and
probably Trevor Robbins until they get a goalie back. It'll be interesting
to see whether that's Flaherty or whether they send Waite down for some
rehab. I wouldn't bet against it.
Laurie picked up on the injury during pre-skate. Waite looked very stiff and
uncomfortable during the warmups, did almost no reaching and bending and
generally looked terrible. After warmups, he was basically pushed back to
the bench, since he seemed to be having trouble pushing off with his skates.
Ugh. This has NOT been a good year for Jimmy.
And I have to feel sorry for the Blades, this is bad timing to be forced to
survive with two goalies with little or no IHL experience, but the way life
is, if you have to sacrifice the run for the Stanley Cup or the Turner Cup,
you know which one loses.
>Also Duane Joyce who was just back in the line up from a broken leg is out
>for the season. Someone accidentally skated over his ankle during last weeks
>Cinn. game and severed his achilles tendon.
Ow! oh, god. What a horrid injury.
>Corwin Saurdiff in goal).
How did he look?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 08:53 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:51:22 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: Re: Radio changes
I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
is that all about? I can understand the A's may have paid more
money, but there's a relative importance factor involved, too.
(I know the game comes in reasonably well on 1550 and 1590, but it's
the principle of the thing - spring training, come on) And I also
see two potentially crucial games against the Kings will be dumped
for more spring training action. Harumph! The Sharks should take
their radio money (remember - the Sharks pay KFRC for the airtime,
not KFRC paying the Sharks) elsewhere. (Think KNEW is looking for
something to fill the A's spots? - heh heh)
Stanford basketball I can understand, as KFRC is their only
station. But if you really need to hear spring training action
on the radio as it happens, you're kind of weird.
Miffed,
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:00 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:58:29 -0800
From: email@hidden (Erik Schwartz)
Subject: waite's knee
Did you see the merc this morning. So Jimmy Waite needs knee surgery and it
can't be put off to the end of the season. So we're bringing up Wade.
Hmm....
very interesting.
==============================================================
Erik Schwartz ICTV Inc.
email@hidden (408) 562-9200
Epicenter 223/6/12-13 Principal SW Project Leader
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:07 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:07:06 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
> I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
>important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
>TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
>is that all about?
Money. Ratings.
Let's be realistic. The Sharks generally get about 1/4 the ratings of the
Warriors. The Warriors ratings are TINY compared to the Giants and A's. You
can't blame the station for going with the program that has the largest
audience (especially when one team is set up already with a backup broadcast
system, and the other isn't).
>But if you really need to hear spring training action
>on the radio as it happens, you're kind of weird.
Then I'm weird. This is the time of year where great conflicts roil through
my head, as I wish I could carry a Walkman into the Arena and pick up
KNBR.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:08 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:08:05 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: Re: waite's knee
Speaking as someone who skated on a bad knee and is now paying for it, I'd
say that it's the right decision to get the knee done *now*. It's no fun
wondering when the chunks floating in your knee are going to rub against the
wrong thing and send those icepick stabbing pains through your body.
You don't know what's going to irritate the knee--I've done a move the
hundredth time and that last one is the one that causes the problem. And
once you've irritated it, the swelling and stiffness takes time to go away.
Considering Waite has also sprained that knee this year, it's probably time
to take a look inside and see what else needs to be cleaned up.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:14 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:12:28 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: Sunday; A Great Day For Hockey!
Well, it's over, and Sunday turned out to be a great day for hockey!
We arrived at the Epicentre at 11:15 and stood around in the parking
lot waiting to see the players. My son managed to get autographs
from Kroupa, Odgers, Whitney, Pederson, Lationov, More, Norton, and
Sykora, but Makarov refused to sign anything (he told everyone to wait
'til after the game). At 12:00 a rep from the Sharks met us at the
side door by the ticket office and escorted us down to a locker room
next door to the Ducks' room. We were told that we'd be skating during
the second intermission, and that the kids would need to be dressed,
except for helmets, gloves, and skates while waiting in our seats. We
were told that it is forbidden to talk to the Ducks, or to make noise
as we walked past their locker room. The Sharks don't want any kids
accidentally insulting a duck, especially if they're losing (no "quack
quack" noises!)!
After getting dressed, we went up to our seats to enjoy the game, and
it was a game to enjoy! The Sharks played like they really wanted to
win. Even Falloon was finding his way into the corners, especially
after he got his wake-up call! We needed to be by the elevator behind
Section 113 when the clock showed 13:00 in the second period, so we
missed most of the second period, although we did watch the action on
the monitor in the locker room. After getting the kids into their skates
and helmets, we were led past the Ducks' locker room into the tunnel by
the ice. We waited patiently (yeah!) for the end of the period and our
4 minutes of the big time. As the Ducks exited the ice after the second
period, they were extremely sullen and dejected. They looked like
prisoners on their way to the gallows...every one of them was intently
studying the floor about 2 feet in front of their feet; not a glance
at the kids as they passed less than 2 feet away. It was quite a sight.
Then the kids took the ice amid cheers from the crowd. A quick skate to
center ice and the puck was dropped. Santa Clara dominated the play for
the entire time with excellent defence, Santa Rosa was prevented from
getting a single shot on goal, while our offense was able to get 2 shots
on the Santa Rosa goalie, who came up big both times. A great time was
had by all, and the kids on both teams agreed that the 4 minutes was the
fastest four minutes they've ever experienced.
After their skate, it was back to the locker room to change, and upstairs
for the third period. It was great experience for all of us, and we all
hope that the crowd enjoyed it as much as we did!
And, finally, after the game, we jumped in the truck and raced up to
Fremont, where our older son had a game against the Midget team from
Tri-Valley (Dublin area); we beat them 1-0, so it was a great day for
hockey: 6-0, 0-0, and 1-0, all in one day!
---
Alan Hepburn "Freedom is increasingly defined as the accumulation
National Semiconductor of rights and entitlements, and as a license for any
Santa Clara, Ca form of self-gratification."
email@hidden Zbigniew Brzezinski
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 09:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:38:56 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Sunday; A Great Day For Hockey!
>The Sharks don't want any kids
>accidentally insulting a duck, especially if they're losing (no "quack
>quack" noises!)!
Emilio Estevez wouldn't have taken that sitting down!
Good game by the kids, by the way. Fun stuff.
>As the Ducks exited the ice after the second
>period, they were extremely sullen and dejected. They looked like
>prisoners on their way to the gallows...every one of them was intently
>studying the floor about 2 feet in front of their feet;
You know, I expected SOMETHING from the Ducks. Even ignoring the playoff run
they're trying to make, they should have been playing for something, even if
it was just pride. They came out skating back on their heels, no real
intensity, no emotion, skating from the opening minute like they were trying
not to win, but to not-lose.
They really looked like they psyched themselves out and considered
themselves beaten before they ever got on the ice, and then went out and
proved it. As soon as the first goal got scored, they collapsed and more or
less phoned in the rest of the game. It could have been 10-0, but Falloon
and Elik were both snakebit most of the game, and after it was about 3-0,
the Sharks were hanging back and practicing their passing, giving up
offensive opportunities and waiting for that one perfect shot (which is one
reason why the shot counts are so irrelevant to what went on on the ice this
time).
The Ducks played, from about 10 minutes in the first, like all they really
wanted to do was skate out the clock and get out of there. Great game by the
Sharks, but I was hoping for something more from the Ducks. They didn't look
good, and frankly didn't try very hard.
Look at it this way: do you honestly think, if we were down 6-0, that Zmolek
and Cronin and Odgers would have just skated around and not attempted to
leave a few bruises? There was the one 'fight' between Cronin and a Duck
(Loney? I don't remember) where Cronin basically turned his back and forced
the guy to grabble (Cronin's face was up against the glass near us, and you
could clearly see him say something like "Oh, c'mon, quit screwing around"),
and the Zmolek thing late, but it was an amazingly low-self-respect day
for the Ducks. You could clearly tell which team felt they deserved to be
in the playoffs, and it wasn't the guys in Eggplant and Forest Green.
Quack quack. The Panthers are starting to fade, as some of us felt they
would. The Ducks, I think, realize they're beaten. I wouldn't be surprised
to see THEM fade (and frankly, I think if they thought they had a real shot
at the playoffs, they wouldn't have sent off Tugnutt). Any thought the
Oilers had of making a run died when we beat them and they proceeded down
to Anaheim to lose AGAIN.
Which leaves the Kings. They aren't exactly making a run for it, but I
certainly won't take them lightly.
The only downside I see: our recent slump has pretty much guaranteed we
aren't going to catch the 6th of 7th seed, which means we better be ready to
play Detroit in the first round, and frankly, I don't think we'll come out
of that alive. But, hell, how many of us figured we'd need to budget for
playoff tickets last October, much less multiple rounds?
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:29 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:27:44 -0800
From: email@hidden (Mike Eisler)
Subject: Re: Playoff ticket orders!
> From email@hidden Sat Mar 5 19:57 PST 1994
> The prices for the playoff tix sorta startled me. I expected (and don't
> resent) an increase in prices, but the fact that they jack the price up for
> the third round seems sorta bogus.
> Well, at least we have such things to complain about! :-)
Their price increases are pretty reasonable compared to what some Penguin`s
fans complained about on rec.sport.hockey a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly
surprised. If the Sharks actually make round 3, I'll consider the
the jump from $18 regular to $28 worth the experience ... but realistically,
we won't be spending a nickel for round 3.
-mre
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:36 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:34:54 -0800
From: email@hidden (Brian Bechtel)
Subject: For sale: 2 tickets for 3/8 against Buffalo
These are in section 211, row 10, seats 13-14. This is in the corner where
the Sharks attack twice. Please contact Robin, not me. I believe these
are $24 dollar seats.
2 tickets available
3/8 vs Buffalo
Work 408 974-7907
Home 408 492-9714
Robin Hurwitz
--Brian Bechtel email@hidden "My opinion, not Apple's"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:40 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:39:50 -0800
From: email@hidden (Peter Jacobs)
Subject: Re: KLIV and KKHI radio
Isn't it fascinating how KFRC has decided to pre-empt the Sharks while they're
on a playoff run in favor of exhibition baseball games??
Makes me wonder about who's in charge of their programming department!
PJ
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 10:46 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:43 PST
From: email@hidden (Michael A. Shantzis)
Subject: Playoffs on TV
Does anyone out there know what all the Sharks TV channels have planned for
the playoffs? In particular, if our Sharks make it in, can we expect all
the games to be broadcast, just like all other major sports playoffs?
Michael Shantzis
email@hidden
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:30 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 11:28:31 PST
From: email@hidden (Alan Hepburn)
Subject: message to Keith, Re Autographs
This is for Keith: I tried replying to your message but got a
bounce:
550 swdc.stratus.com (tcp)... 550 Host unknown
554 ... 550 Host unknown (Valid name but no A or MX)
Anyway, you asked:
"Sounds like you and the kids had a great day! My son would go
nuts being able to get autographs from players. Would you mind
telling me where abouts the player entrance is? Is 11:30 a
good time to get there? Any info would be greatly appreciated!"
No problem! The players park in the lot behind the Epicentre (the
$10 lot) and enter the building from that lot through the entrance
closest to Santa Clara St. For yesterday's game, which started at
2:00 they started showing up about 11:15. Most of them are quite
friendly and are willing to sign stuff, except for Makarov. He was
friendly enough, but refused to sign anything. He said he'd be happy
to sign stuff after the game, but other people there sais that he's
hard to find after a game.
I think they have a reporting time, because the later it got, the more
of a hurry they seemed to be in. But they still took time to sign stuff.
Godd luck!
Alan Hepburn
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:37 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:37:53 -0800
From: email@hidden (Michael Larson)
Subject: Re: SWEEP!
>Maybe the Ducks should take some tips from Tampa Bay, having gone
>0 for California so far this year. (They finished 0-6 against the
>Sharks and 0-4 (I think it's four, so far) against L.A. Tampa,
>on the other hand, can't lose in California. Go figure.
>
>David Pollack, of the M-N, said the suits were going to ban brooms
>again today. Did anyone out there have actual experiences with that?
>
>At least three of us, in 117, did bring whiskbrooms (no broomsticks)
>without problems. I even dusted off our aisle's bluecoat (with a smile).
>If we somehow get to be 3-0 in the playoffs, I certainly hope they
>rethink their official broom policy!
Brooms are annoying! Last thing I need as Makarov is putting on a clinic
on how to skate/pass/shoot/score is some idiot waving a broom in my face.
Sorry to those with common sense, but some of your fellow human beings who
are lacking in it would just wave the damn things all game long!
On the other hand, if you could use it to beat down vendors, idiot fans,
and stupid mascots... :-)
-Larson
Michael E. Larson email@hidden
Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: LARSON
20525 Mariani Ave. MS 306-2CW
Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 862-4800
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:45 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:42:59 -0800
From: Tom Cronin
Subject: What a game!
I managed to see the news highlights of the Ducks game (after
listening on the radio) and it was incredible. Every goal they
showed was a result of someone either camped out on the far side
of the crease or someone charging in to receive a pass in the slot.
(Or both, even!) I wouldn't give up on the search to find a big
dominating center yet, but it's definitely a start. It's been a
long time since the highlights from a Sharks game made me laugh
with glee. We *own* the Ducks!
I realize that Vancouver's been having a rough stretch, but
the common phrase during yesterday's broadcast of "the last regular
season meeting between these two teams" seemed a bit far fetched.
There didn't seem to be too much fanfare about Arturs' shutout,
aside from pointing out it was the first time the Sharks shut out
one opponent twice in a season. Perhaps it was just because that
wasn't the real story. The offensive play was much larger than
even Irbe. Five of six goals coming from one line. Three goals
each on two goalies. A goalie yanked after one period. Total
offensive domination by the Sharks.
This was probably the first game where the Sharks offense truly
overshadowed the defense. It seemed like the Ducks never even
had a scoring chance, except for when they were handed one on a
silver platter. I think it's a great sign for the stretch that
the offense is the main story of the game. If we can manage to
have the offense shine without the defense having momentary wobbles,
we're all set. Not that a shutout is a sign of bad defense :)
the "Muscular Waterfowl" my foot!
Tom
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:55 PST 1994
From: email@hidden
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 14:51:58 EST
Subject: Sykora?
Your son got an autograph from Sykora? Didn't know he had been called up.
Humm. Anyone have anything on this?
Rene - Blueline Fan #38 Sykora, #40 Rathje (SIR) - Go Blades
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 11:55 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:54:19 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: What a game!
> There didn't seem to be too much fanfare about Arturs' shutout,
>aside from pointing out it was the first time the Sharks shut out
>one opponent twice in a season.
Not to belittle Artur's performance one bit, but he could have gone out for
a cup of coffee and still gotten the shutout. I think I counted maybe six or
seven GOOD shots all game. Almost everything that WAS a shot was a weak
no-brainer grab, or right into the pads. Routine stuff. I'll bet he was
getting bored after a while ("hey, guys! give them a breakaway! I'm bored!")
The Ducks, frankly, looked, um, just like the Sharks last year. You're
supposed to shoot around the goalie, guys, not at him.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:16 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:14:44 -0800 (PST)
From: a Shark in Duck-infested waters
Subject: "Like Freight Train"?
Great game on Sunday. Down in so-cal we don't get to see much Sharks
games but this one was a beauty. Great passing, good forechecking, the
Sharks really took advantage of the sorry state that the Ducks' defense
was in Sunday. I loved it when Garpenlov scored the third goal; Hebert
whirled around and looked very dejected! The score could have been even
more lopsided if the Ducks' backup goalie Shtalenkov (sp?) hadn't made
some awesome saves.
One thing that did catch my eye was a sign that said "Sergei Makarov
Like Freight Train. Whoo! Whoo!" Great sign! I don't think that
analogy quite works, even though Makarov was like a freight train on the
first goal. How about Sergei Makarov - Fly like butterfly, sting like
bee? :) :)
One last question, it was mentioned during the game that Rathje and
Butsayev were scratched. Were these due to injuries or coach's
decision? I'm hoping that Butsayev will get more ice time in the future
and that Kroupa will stay with the Sharks for the rest of the season.
PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!!
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Loren Taylor
"a Shark in Duck-infested waters" Physics rules at:
(email@hidden) University of California, Irvine!!
Go Sharks!! Go Arturs Irbe! Sergei Makarov rules!!
Go Kings!! HRUUUUUUUUUUDEY!! May the Great One play 4ever!
Go Flames!! Go Joe Nieuwendyk!!
Professor A. A. Maradudin-ism:
"Oh my friend, how could you be SO wrong!"
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:25 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:20:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Rees
Subject: Cal Train
I thought someone here said a 2nd train had
been added after the games, and that is was
express to Palo Alto. I just talked to
CalTrain and they denied it. Do any of
you know what's going on with the train
after games? I quit using it because it
takes too long to get back to SF.
-Rick
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:27 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:23:07 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: For AOL users
Reply to: RE>>For AOL users
Alan Hepburn sez:
>Funny you should mention curling.
Yup. And four years from now in Nagano, curling will become an Olympic event.
I think it may have been an exhibition event sometime in the distant past, but
this time it will be a full-fledged event on equal footing with the
aforementioned short track speedskating!
I can just see it now, "The American bobsled teams are unloading their
umpteen-thousand dollar computer-designed titanium sleds, and...what's that?
Oh, the American curling team is unloading their brooms, which they purchased
at K-Mart." "Yes, Bob, but those are the new aluminum-handled O-Cedar brooms
that just became available last week. The Americans have obviously spared no
expense in their hunt for CURLING GOLD!" ;-)
By the way, the Murky News also does not cover Aussie Rules Football, either
(1/2 ;-) And the coverage of foreign soccer leagues (and, for that matter, the
IHL) is sporadic at best. It seems to be on a
we-had-a-little-extra-space-because-we-didn't-sell-enough-ads-today basis. Not
the best reason to publish or not publish league standing that some people
really care about.
I'd almost prefer they never published them, or only published them at the end
of the leagues' respective seasons. Standings that are shown once and then not
shown for weeks on end are almost totally worthless. Particularly since
sometimes the Murky News publishes not just the standings but the previous
day's (or weekend's) scores! Are there that many people around who are
thinking, "I don't care about Arsenal's last five games, but damn I wish I knew
the final score of their game against Manchester United yesterday!" ???
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:38 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 11:10:50 U
From: "Mike Wallis"
Subject: Sharks mailing list
Sharks mailing list
As BEAT LA requested, here are the Sharks home dates from March 10 to March
20:
Thurs., 3/10: vs. NYI @ 7:30
Thurs., 3/17: vs. OTT @ 7:30
Sun., 3/20: vs. LA KINGS @ 2:00
(The Sharks are away on Sat., 3/12 vs CAL, and Sat., 3/19 vs LA KINGS.)
-Mike
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:39 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 12:35:59 PST
From: email@hidden (James Nakamura)
Subject: NEED TICKETS FOR 3/31
Hi all,
I'm looking for two tickets to the Sharks/Leafs game on Thursday, March 31st.
My best friend is coming up from LA and has yet to attend a hockey game live.
The poor guy has to endure the trials of rooting for an expansion team and I'd
like him to see playoff caliber hockey :-). Any location is fine.
A few other quick questions:
Being new to the sport myself, what is the explanation for the starting goalie
being the first on the ice? (Leading the team into battle???)
Also, at the end of the pre-game skate, the last two on the ice for the Sharks
are always Falloon and Odgers. Any good explanation for this?
Finally, I'm looking into actually trying the game out for myself. I got the
brochure from Ice Hockey International and that looks pretty good, are there
others with good beginner adult programs? Also, is this a good league to start
out with? What are the good and bad points? Any advice would be great.
naka
email@hidden
415-691-0326 x280
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:45 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:40:57 -0800
From: "Dave Comstock"
Subject: Re: Radio changes
Reply to: RE>> Radio changes
Tom Cronin sez:
>I couldn't believe that a game which is clearly one of the most
>important of the year for the Sharks was dumped for a $#%&! SPRING
>TRAINING A's game by the alleged "flagship" station KFRC. What
>is that all about?
Well, I think it's about two things, and money, while definitely an indirect
factor, is not be one of them.
First, I believe that KFRC already had a contract with the A's before the
Sharks became available. The A's contract may very well specify that KFRC
**MUST** carry all A's games, even exhibition games. I'm not sure that this is
the case, but the A's and Giants both probably bring enough revenue and
prestige to a radio station to force them to do it.
The other reason is the circumstances and timing that caused the Sharks to go
with KFRC in the first place. Due to an ownership change/change in direction,
KNEW dumped the Sharks shortly before the season started. With time running
out (almost all of the preseason games had already taken place), the Sharks
made the best deal they could with the most powerful station they could. Given
that most major stations (including KFRC) had already scheduled their sports
programming for the year, I think the Sharks were lucky to do as well as they
did, even given the pre-emptions.
For the 1994-5 season, the Sharks have time to negotiate a better deal, and
hopefully they can arrange a deal for the full schedule with no pre-emptions
allowed.
Dave Comstock
120/7/7-10
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:50 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:49:36 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: "Like Freight Train"?
> One thing that did catch my eye was a sign that said "Sergei Makarov
>Like Freight Train. Whoo! Whoo!" Great sign! I don't think that
Definitely. I loved it. Some of the signs showing up this year have been
absolute classics.
> One last question, it was mentioned during the game that Rathje and
>Butsayev were scratched. Were these due to injuries or coach's
>decision? I'm hoping that Butsayev will get more ice time in the future
>and that Kroupa will stay with the Sharks for the rest of the season.
Kroupa won't be going anywhere. He seems to be doing a good job at the NHL
level, and I don't think sending him back to KC does him any good now.
Rathje's got a knee-ligament strain. He's officially day to day, but in a
kid that size, you don't take those joints for granted (ask Eric Lindros).
Butsayev is a coaches decision. He hasn't exactly put the wrath of god into
the opponents since coming over from the Flyers, and so he hasn't been
playing. Baker's been making a much better contribution recently. I just
think it's taking Butsayev some time to find his way into Constantine's
system (and, before people take this as a criticism, we were saying the same
thing of Elik the first couple of weeks he was here). Beyond that, I think
Butsayev is being viewed more as a project than a prospect, so I'm not
expecting immediate impact from him (if he was an immediate impact, he
wouldn't have come to us for Zettler). He was tried for a few games, looked
a little lost, and so the Sharks are going with what's working, which is
Baker. He'll be back.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:54 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:54:07 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: NEED TICKETS FOR 3/31
>Being new to the sport myself, what is the explanation for the starting goalie
>being the first on the ice? (Leading the team into battle???)
Tradition? You want to tell him he can't go first?
>Also, at the end of the pre-game skate, the last two on the ice for the Sharks
>are always Falloon and Odgers. Any good explanation for this?
I think this was a work-ethic thing that grew into a tradition. When Falloon
was struggling, he was spending a LOT of time on the ice trying to find his
shot. Now that he has it, he's not changing anything, lest he screw it up
again. Odgers has always been one of the last off the ice, and tends to
spend a chunk of time tossing setup passes to Patty to help him work.
In Odgers' case, I think what you're seeing is a guy who odesn't have the
best talent in the world making up for it with guts and hustle (and not
incidentally, leading by example), while with Falloon, you've got a kid WITH
all the talent who's putting in the time to make sure that talent comes to
fruition.
They spend the time because that's what it takes for them to succeed.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 12:57 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:56:37 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Radio changes
>First, I believe that KFRC already had a contract with the A's before the
>Sharks became available.
This is not true. The A's were signed with KNEW, but both sides agreed to
release the contract and the A's moved over.
>For the 1994-5 season, the Sharks have time to negotiate a better deal, and
>hopefully they can arrange a deal for the full schedule with no pre-emptions
>allowed.
It depends entirely on their audience. If the other sports have more
listeners, the Sharks don't have much of a negotiating position. I don't
know the arbs for Stanford, but of the pro sports, the Sharks are still by
far the smallest audience.
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:00 PST 1994
From: email@hidden (Larry Blair)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:34:37 PST
Subject: Re: Radio changes
On 7 Mar 94, you wrote (Subject: Re: Radio changes):
> I can understand the A's may have paid more
...
> The Sharks should take
> their radio money (remember - the Sharks pay KFRC for the airtime,
> not KFRC paying the Sharks) elsewhere.
Since when do teams pay for radio coverage? Broadcast rights for sports are a
big money business. This can't be right.
--
Larry Blair
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:14 PST 1994
Date: 7 Mar 94 13:09:00 PST
From: "MOSHE PREIL (22117)"
Subject: Blind Officials
Notice to the humor imparied: This is NOT a serious posting.
If you think Shick was turning a blind eye to some things that
were going on yesterday, the official who was out between the 2nd
and 3rd periods was even worse. By the end of the 4 minute scrimmage,
the kids figured out that the guy wasn't going to call penalties, and
they spent the last minute tripping each other. It's good to see that the
kids know rule #1 of hockey: If you think you can get away with it, then
it can't be illegal. :-)
Now for a real question: What was the question about the Sharks
first goal? They reviewed it before deciding it was good. Was there
some question about interference with the goalie? There was certainly
no doubt that the puck was in the net, and there was no stoppage of play
before that, so it had to be a procedural issue. Anyone know what went
on there?
Moshe
209/17
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:17 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:10 -0800
From: Laurie Sefton
Subject: who goes on first?
Chuq has the right circumstance, but it's an exmaple of the neurosis/phobic
rule of who goes where in the line-up. All things being equal, this is the
order of decision:
1. Starting goaltender--if you break his luck, you might as well hang it up.
2. Leading scorer
3. Other scorers
4. Big defence guy with numeric ranking problem
5. Phobic power-play specialist
6. 20 year veteran who's hanging on for one more year with the team
Okay, well not quite.... :-)
If a player has a "thing" about being in a specific place in line, it will
tend to be honoured. I think this batch of goalies like to be the leader
onto the ice. There have been ones who haven't broken with their placement
in the line no matter what was going on.
Teams will tend to line up in a particular fashion after the various tweaks
have been worked out--except for "pimp the rookie" night. That's when you
let the rookie lead onto the ice, and the rest of the team stays back. The
poor guy ends up skating around and dying, waiting for the rest of the team
to show.
Laurie
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From Shark-Bytes-request Mon Mar 7 13:44 PST 1994
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:41: